What do you think of Daka+2?Follow

It's not bad. Twash is a decent bit ahead but honestly, they made Twashtar one of the most pain in the ass weapons to get. Daka will still be right after Twash in terms of usefulness, so if that's your only option, go for it I say.

Just keep in mind, if you decide to do the Twashtar path, you're going to have to camp Mr. Strongman, BTS, Hovering Hotpot (Which is a ton harder now with the new GC mobs), etc.

Good luck whichever path you decide to take, the end result is very good on both.

Make friends with a WHM who is in a similar position and you'll be so golden both of you will wonder how you got by before. I know, easier said than done but.. THF is really one of the better amber farming jobs, with decent survival skills and decent MAB/dagger skill for AE. Glavoid ain't too bad if you have a WHM friend. I finished mine in a week of so so trying with my wife (She mains WHM). Linkshells are overrated. Friends who share a linkpearl are nice, but seriously, linkshells need to die in a fire. >_>

Good luck!

There's always busting out fanatic's to solo chain those gold boxes. :P As far as WoE goes, I'll leave that to a more versed THF who has tried to solo it. As I have only low manned it, never even attempted solo.

You can however farm dynamis decently with THF/DNC and still do well with the proc system. :D I still think Mandau is the most sex-piling dagger around, both in usefulness and looks.

In my experience, THF is a poor job to solo WoE with. I've tried with THF, I've tried with NIN, I've tried with DNC, I've tried with BST. THF was actually the slowest to kill anything out of those jobs and I did not notice any increase at all in coin drops from TH. In fact I got far less coins due to the fact that THF is so effing slow at killing anything in there. DNC with the ability to self darkness every 30 seconds tore things up, but THF was, unfortunately, rather useless for soloing walk of echoes.

For you, I would suggest trying again as NIN/DNC or if you don't have that NIN/WHM with a stack of echos to remove silence. Gear up for evasion, macro in haste for utsusemi, and you should be good to clear out at least half to maybe 3/4 of a zone solo, team up with one other person and you can usually clear everything except the bosses in most zones.

Conflux 1 and conflux 3 will probably be your best bets unless you team up with a group. Conflux 1 is crabs, the trick to that one is that when you kill a crab a few others come running to where it dies, so kill then move and pick off the crabs as they run toward where you killed the last one. Conflux 3 is antlions, fight them on the stairs, but be sure to kill them at the bottom of the stairs because one or two will come to investigate the dead antlion before moving on, watch out for poison, it's pretty potent, and silence. The albino Antlions will cast break on you at low HP if you're moving away from them to drag them to the bottom of the stairs for the kill so make sure that you have shadows up for that or you could be pretty screwed. also, make sure you have plentiful reraise items because you probably will die quite a few times, but don't let that discourage you, just get back up, wait out weakness and get back to it. you don't lose xp in WoE.

I'm not sure from your post whether you think it's once an earth day or once a game day to enter walk of echoes, but it's only once a game day, starting at 0:00 rather than when you entered last. normally, if you spend the entire 45 mins in a zone you dont have to wait at all to enter another. there is a 30 min cooldown on zones once you leave them, so I usually just bounce from conflux 1 to conflux 3 and back again. That way you basically can just do it continuously for as long as you want.

I wasn't after a dagger when I did WoE, i was after a sword, but I did get 30 birth coins at about the same time i got 30 glory coins so I ended up making a dagger as well. In my experience ruin and decay coins are the most common, and advancement the least common, birth and glory are somewhere in the middle. You'll have a lot of frustration with birth coins not dropping, but don't let it get you down, you'll get them eventually, especially if you can team up with a group going for wins, score in the top 5 and you'll have a chance at pouches with 2-12 coins in them. It took me about a week of 3-4 hrs per day to get my 30 birth and glory coins. It's not going to be quick. It will be horribly time consuming to solo them all. However, for someone in your situation, it is much more doable than a twashtar.

having a Daka +2 I can tell you that without the aftermath THF doesn't have much use for Rudra's Storm inside abyssea. It can do respectable numbers when teamed up with SA TA and AC, but evisceration will usually do much better damage, the 47 base damage is nice for DD purposes though. DNC can get some pretty big numbers out of it through their JAs, one of which was just updated to make it a more feasible WS to use, however, still Evisceration is the better WS to use. Outside of abyssea however, it can surpass dancing edge and evisceration as your biggest damage dealer if you know how to use it and stack it with your JAs. I think you'll find that, while not mindblowingly awesome like other empyrean WSs, it's still fun to mess around with, and in the right circumstances outside of abyssea Rudra's Storm can be your hardest hitter, and the base damage on the dagger is really hard to beat.

Keep at it, don't get frustrated and quit. You'll never get anywhere if you give up now.

Edit: typo

Edited, Jul 17th 2011 11:15am by sevynwarr

I'm thinking that Rudra's Storm would be like Mercy Stroke in that it's probably not worth using unstacked, since it's not a crit WS. But I could be totally wrong about that.

I have recently been quite impressed with Rudras unstacked -outside- abyssea. Particularly since I got my tp+100 dagger. I basically spam the hell out of it outside abyssea all the time now. at 200tp (TP bonus dagger), its 4.25 ftp. Toss in the offhand and you ahve a 5.25 ftp, 60% dex mod. Evis is 6ftp, 30% dex mod with crit capability. Outside abyssea you ahve only about a 35% crit rate at 100% (not sure what 200 with my tp bonus dagger is).

It really isnt very far off once you remember you get DOUBLE the dex bonus from mods. Evis does slightly better for me outside abyssea, but its all over the place based on crits etc. Rudras is far more consistent and it allows me to keep up aftermath 100% of the time. Ill make up the 1-200 damage lost in 1-2 attack rounds of ODD.

The TP bonus dagger really makes rudras a capable WS without sata (outside abyssea). Also the fun little fact taht you CAN triple x2 on rudras, but only x1 on evis due to 8hit cap. So rudras has a potential to land (at 100+100TP) 9.25 FTP, 60% dex vs 8ftp 30% dex w/crits max with evis.

This would not work as well with daka just because an tiny loss in WS doesnt ahve an ODD proc to push rudras back up again, but its not like you cant ever use it. Its really not bad with the offhand TP bonus.

While we're on the subject of twashtar aftermath, does the effect stack with af set bonuses? Tried searching but never found concrete testing on it. And if it doesn't, what's the % proc rate?