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#1 Feb 28 2013 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi everyone, I'm returning after being gone for a little over three years. I feel a little bit overwhelmed with everything that has happened to the game while I was away. I need information regarding which direction I should take with my weapons and gear. I never had the best to begin with when I used to play, but I made an effort to at least have decent equipment. Now I've returned to the game, leveled to 99 and all my gear is still lv75. I need to sell all that crap and buy some new things.

1. Is the best way to gear thief for TP still haste gear? Is the haste cap from gear still 25%? Should I still focus my gear around haste and low delay weapons?

2. What is the best dagger nowadays?

I see a nice 51 base damage dagger on the AH, but it has a delay of 200. I know that a fire thokcha is a good weapon and the base damage is 47 with a 190 delay.

Should I build my set around haste and then get the high dmg, high delay daggers until I can get the trials weapons? I haven't started any trials yet.

3. Is the raiders gear I can get from abyssea better than most gear nowadays? I see a lot of decent looking gear on the auction house, is it still considered "gimp" to be an auction-house-thief like it used to be? Some of that gear on the AH looks pretty good actually.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
#2 Feb 28 2013 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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Grab some aurore gear(lvl 78) to start with until you get Empyrean +1/+2 and you can also try to get some Homam equip until you get the good stuff. Can also look for Relic+2 armor for different macros and if you have a few friends that still do Sky NM/Kirin for some stuff, try to get a few free items too since some are pretty nice with synergy augments :) Finishing CoP/WotG/Add-on scenarios(ACP/AMKD/ASA) could also bring a few good items if you have the means to finish them with another job if needed ^^ And of course, doing limbus/dynamis daily for money could get you the expensive stuff pretty fast if you can manage them with some jobs :P Almost forgot you can get THF AF3 ammo and a few other goodies(Atheling mantle comes to mind) from Abyssea if you know ppl or see some interesting shouts!

On the dagger side, Aluh Jambiyah andOynos knife can hold you over pretty well until you get STR Tkocha/Twash/Mandau!

Once you get more experienced, can look into Enif equip and VW drops(Toci's harness,Athos equip comes to mind...) and NNI gear in the long run ;)
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#3 Feb 28 2013 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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Forgot to mention Salvage v2 for Skadi+1 also :)
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#4 Mar 01 2013 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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The advice hyunkyl gave you is pretty basic but true in every aspect. As for a point for point response to your questions, here goes.

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1. Is the best way to gear thief for TP still haste gear? Is the haste cap from gear still 25%? Should I still focus my gear around haste and low delay weapons?


Yes, and unless SE changes the mechanics of haste, that should always be true. Yes the haste cap is still 25% (or 26% if you are actually speccing the math out). Yes and no. Extremely low delay weapons are not as heavily sought out as they once were. There is a really nice 150 delay dagger with +5% triple attack on it, but I think it drops from legion. Most of my daggers are between 186 and 201 delay.

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2. What is the best dagger nowadays?

I see a nice 51 base damage dagger on the AH, but it has a delay of 200. I know that a fire thokcha is a good weapon and the base damage is 47 with a 190 delay.

Should I build my set around haste and then get the high dmg, high delay daggers until I can get the trials weapons? I haven't started any trials yet.


Best dagger is either Mandau or Twashtar probably. Twashtar is easier to build up to level 85-90, but with the changes in the last few years to dynamis, Mandau is not a pipe dream anymore.

Off the AH, hyunkyl recommened two very good daggers. Aluh Jambiya is what I am currently using in my main hand, and I keep an Oynos for situations where I am soloing, cause being able to self haste is awesome. Another good AH option is an Oxossi Facon/+1. They are really expensive, but can tide you over while you get other non-buyable options.

In terms of non-buyable daggers, you will want to make probably at least 1 thokcha (trial of the magians). I recommend the STR path, there have been times I have wished I had also done an AGI path thokcha too, but they are few and far between. Also from trial of the magians a Centovente with TP bonus +100 has it's uses for offhand Twashtar and Aeolian Edge, but not a priority.

There are also a few rare/ex daggers that are nice, but.... good luck on those. They are Asteria/Blustery Dagger, and Coruscanti/Lux Pugio. They have abysmal drop rates.

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3. Is the raiders gear I can get from abyssea better than most gear nowadays? I see a lot of decent looking gear on the auction house, is it still considered "gimp" to be an auction-house-thief like it used to be? Some of that gear on the AH looks pretty good actually.


The raider's set is a good set. It is not the best, but it is better than anything on the AH and a good starting point. As an initial goal, you should look at getting all 5 +2 raider's pieces. Head/Body/Legs will be part of your haste build along with a Twilight Belt and one other piece of haste gear. That could be Baillerines on your feet or Ocelot Gloves, or even Dusk Gloves if you don't mind the movement down or being responsible for switching hands out after battle. Raider's Hands +2 are your best evisceration and Sneak Attack hands by far. Raider's Feet +2 are great for Exenterator (merit weaponskill for dagger) and evasion build and +1 treasure hunter. Also of note is the Raider's boomerang.

Once you get your raider's set built, then you can look at the more high end armor sets like Thaumas from Neo Nyzul Isle, or Skadi +1/Sigyn's sets from the Neo Salvage event.
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