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#77 May 13 2005 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
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After leveling up Drk to level 50 i decided to try sam after always seeing sam in pt usually averaging out more damage then me because of there ability to do 3-4 ws a battle where i would be doing only 1 and 2 if i was lucky. Even with my drk pimped out with acc gear. I have to say sam is awsome they do a lot of damage yet can get away without getting hate like rng. Any job that can self skillchain has to have something going for it. {Samurai}{Power} ^^
#78 May 24 2005 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Could you add which Stats would affect certain WS for GK, I would like to know which exactly I should use equip swaps for. I read in another topic post where Tachi: Yukikaze is affected by STR. It would be nice to have this information confirmed in the 101 guide.
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#79 Jun 19 2005 at 9:05 PM Rating: Default
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Maybe a mage sub wouldnt be totally worthless think of making your own SC and topping it off with your own MB something to think about.....

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#80 Jun 23 2005 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe a mage sub wouldnt be totally worthless think of making your own SC and topping it off with your own MB something to think about....

think about for like 2 seconds and then toss the idea :>

1) our int is lackluster, we would do almost no dmg
2) we wouldnt get the higher lv magic spells
3) our mp would really suck and we wouldnt get much off anyway
4) if ur really set on making your own MB's sub drk.. at least u still get atk+ on that ._.
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#81 Jul 13 2005 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
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This for the last person asking what to sub samurai with:

pre 60 ---> warrior or thief, prolly warrior thats what I did
post 60 ---> thief or ranger, I have heard warrior class falls off as a good sub

One thing I have noticed is that the origional post said that you shoud use meat type food with samurai and rice balls with the AF gloves. From personal experience I used meatkabobs under level 25 to improve my damage, after which i then started to use shushi products to improve my accuracy (which had begun to trail off), and the only time I ever use rice balls in any sort is when I am farming mobs or killing off placeholders to regen a NM. I guess this is prolly different from other Samurai's given their race but I have found that if you don't use Sushi at higher levels with an Elvaan samurai your going to whiff a ton.
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#82 Jul 14 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
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Great Info ^_^b
Im A LVL 70 Sam On Sylph Server.

Mind, I don't Excactly Agree 100% For being there Just to SC, But that's not but ones point of view.

Also I've seen One person on our server Interestin Setup.
Sam/Drk High Accu and Attack Gear.

Might Try that out for laughs. :/

You know it took me 60 Damn Lvls to finnaly Figure out That Meditaite can be utilized to make 3 WS o.o;;

Felt so Stupid. -.-

Anywho Rate Up Peope Good Post.

Edited, Thu Jul 14 14:09:56 2005 by ScyeAndIkijha
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#83 Jul 30 2005 at 4:47 PM Rating: Default
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at 30 i would suggest thf. but befor that probobly war. great post man. real long though lol. took me like 30 minutes to read all the posts >.< :P
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#84 Aug 09 2005 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Very imformative thread! Thank you. I am a 72RNG, and after Sp'ing with a SAM for 20 lvls I have to admit this job is no way boring, we SC'd often and quite effectively.Needless to say my Sam is now 36. Again thank you for the info!
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#85 Aug 17 2005 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
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lol man, taru 2nd in DEX? never... are lower as elvaan... and galka have same dex as hume -.-
#86 Sep 22 2005 at 4:53 PM Rating: Default
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Hello. I'm coming back to ffxi (rdm30/whm15/blm8/smn8) and I was wanting to do something new. So I thought sam looks fun. I was sam5 but war was only 2 and I didn't want to lvl it. Is sam a good idea to lvl? Is it also fun[Blue][/Blue]
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#87 Sep 26 2005 at 10:21 PM Rating: Default
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DEX doesnt increase how fast your hits land, AGI does. he may have somehow had higher AGI than you did, but i could be wrong... DEX is accuracy, AGI is ranged accuracy, speed of hits and evasion.
#88 Oct 08 2005 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm fairly certain that the only things that affect your speed of attack with Great Katana is the weapon delay on the GKT and any Haste gear/spells you've got on ya. AGI does -not- affect how quickly you attack.
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#89 Oct 13 2005 at 5:14 PM Rating: Default
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I'm curious, I thought that STR was what added to your max damage limit and attack was what increased your avg hit damage.

But this is -great-, I came hoping to find a skill chain chart and the link to Aden's was perfect. Good stuff bud.
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#90 Oct 17 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Default
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yes...sam/war or sam/thf?

it seems that sam/thf wouldnt be as useful pre-60...does anyone go sam/thf all the way?

#91 Oct 24 2005 at 2:47 AM Rating: Default
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Ranger sub just seem natural for samurai. I have found that samurai have more access to +ranged accuracy equipment before just plain +accuracy. Plus, you can Sharpshot for even more +ranged acc. This is mostly pre-30. Ranger sub also helps with skillchains and with finding prey quickly.
#92 Nov 17 2005 at 11:22 AM Rating: Default
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Hey I need some advice. I am a taru noobie and i want to be a SAM but i started out as BLM. now i have my sub job and I'm so messed up on what job I should level i think i might just quit. I have 7 THF, 17 BLM, 6 RDM, and 1 everything else. I should level THF next right? but then I have to level WAR, and I'm a Taru so I will get next to 0 inv when I get to Valcrum again right? so what should i do?

Edited, Thu Nov 17 11:37:38 2005 by Rukario
#93 Jan 16 2006 at 6:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Great guide! Thanks for putting this together, It has helped me alot playing SAM.

Please note, that +1 ACC is not better then +1 DEX. DEX affects how many critical hits you get. The same goes for STR/ATK, STR increases your damage per hit, where as attack raises your max damage cap.

Sorry for pointing this out, but I do not want people getting the wrong idea, 1 Acc is better than 1 DEX (Most of the time, Unless stacked) as it takes around 5~ DEX for 1% Crit rate. Acc will help you to hit alot more.
Second, "STR increases your damage per hit, where as attack raises your max damage cap."
This is wrong, it is the other way round; STR increases your damage cap, Attack increases your average damage per hit.

Thanks again for the guide~
#94 Feb 10 2006 at 1:36 AM Rating: Decent
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how does a ranger gain more TP than a samurai??
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#95 Feb 13 2006 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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This may sound like a stupid question, but I play THF main and i know to do more damage with sneak attack you load up on dex. My next job im going to lvl is SAM and i was wondering if its the same principle. The more DEX you have the more damage your SA will do.

The only reason I ask is that I thought i read somewhere that adding dex on a THF sub doesnt do anything. Is this right?

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#96 Mar 16 2006 at 3:17 AM Rating: Decent

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#97 May 07 2006 at 8:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I feel so bad.. my first post in Alla is on my fiance's profile. XD

Anyway, I play an Elvaan SAM/48 on Asura named Deidle. I have heard all the talk about subbing thf and having good dex. I'm not convinced that this is right. I don't want to say i'm right but here is my experience. I have a lot of acc and att gear and some str. I use sole sushi and have subbed war from the begining. Using berserk makes my att skyrocket. I have yet to see most jobs out dmg me(mages and their spells being the exception), I hardly ever miss... except when those damn beetles use there eva. boost. Throw in the tp build and WS and Sam becomes a DD machine. I've had ls mates who went the dex rout and complained that they didn't feel like they were doing enough. I promptly told them to go Acc/Att/Str.

I myself would not sub thf, thats just me. But I do beleive that thf is my best friend. Tachi:Enpi + SATA viperbite= complete pwnage.

As far as rng as a sub. I hardly ever get a chance to use a ranged attack. Although I have had to be the puller a few times but I don't think rng would help that much. I alos lvl rng and know how often my ranged WS's miss. I wouldn't dream or wasting a sam's tp on a ranged ws.

Thats just my opinion from my experiences. But I do beleive ultimatley it comes down to the player. The game has its set programming but if you don't know what you are doing none of it matters.

p.s.- I realize i'm only lvl 48 and things may change. Also, thanks for the guide I did get some usefull tips from it.
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#98 May 07 2006 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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This helped me alot thanks^^
#99 May 07 2006 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Great job! This guide answered all my questions. Thank you!
#100 May 30 2006 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't ever sub /DRG for anything serious like EXP parties. There really is nothing better for us than /WAR and /THF.

SAM/DRG 20-29 FTW. /WAR and /THF don't have anything to offer before SAM30. Berzerk and SA both become available at SAM30. SAM/DRG gets Jump and Attack Bonus I at 20, making it the best sub-job 20-29. But it is the best sub-job ONLY 20-29.

SAM/WAR 1-19 and 30-59. /WAR is the best sub before 20, and 30-59 thanks to Berzerk

SAM/THF 60+. SATA Tachi: Gekko FTW! I staticed with a SAM/THF from 60-75, and his DMG output was insane. SAM specializes on TP gain. /THF amplifies the return on the TP gain by ensuring a critical hit and guaranteed hit on a WS, and allows you to plant the nasty DMG on the Tank with a proficient WS partner.
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#101 Jun 05 2006 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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i just thought about something stu...err. . . odd. . .
SAM/BLU? :3 i dunno why, but i sub blu anytime i'm soloing. like farming, questing, etc. . . and so like i'm wondering. . . besides for the solo reasons, would blu be a good sub for sam? would blu be a good sub for ANY JOB? just wondering, i think it'd make low lvl pt's fun i <3 wild oats^^;;; especially since it makes me do more dmg in 1 hit, and more in a ws :D but anyway. . . oo oo also, sam/pup :D i dunno. . . {/random}. . .

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