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#1 Jun 25 2013 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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I have been participating in morimar delve as a Sam white Mage and cor. As a sam I swing for 300 to 400 and critical for 500 to 600. My shoha does from super low 600 to 6997 with cor and Bard buffs average like 3200. I feel pretty weak when a dark swings 500 plus with 4000 plus resolutions and monks punch for 300 a punch.

I feel like i am not contributing enough. So how much does a good or elite dd do? Thanks for your input.
#2 Jun 25 2013 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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SAM is fine in Delve. I'd stick with it. Others can help you far better than I with the specifics, but you may just need to change/upgrade your gear or choice of food to help you even out those numbers or they might be perfectly normal. Maybe post what gear/food you're using in the SAM forum and they can give you any relevant advice.
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#3 Jun 25 2013 at 2:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's really hard to just eye-ball your effectiveness in a group without a parser, especially against non-identical jobs. Sam's ability to WS more frequently and solo SC are big driving factors in their damage output. If you have concerns over your effectiveness as a DD I'd recommend using a parser for a few runs and see how your damage compares with others.

If you do find that you're not comfortable with your performance levels there's a few things you can do to improve. Make sure you are using at a minimum a TP set and a WS set. For my TP sets, I focus first on achieving 26% haste from gear (the cap) and then as much multi-attack traits as I can then accuracy. For my WS sets, first I focus on the primary stat modifier of the WS then I try to include +crit, multi-attack, or accuracy, based on the WS and the gear I have for the job.
#4 Jun 25 2013 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh I was askIng how a good dd do in delve lol but sure help in my gear set is appreciated. Once i actually parsed 400,000 in my party of 3 dd with a thief but the top dd parse 760,000 while the2nd parsed 500,000 something so I was last lol.

I used delve rank 8 strength Gk delve rank 9 dex path helmet delve earrings tyrant ring a 5 dex ring atheling mantle dynamis belt Karieyh gloves c chain af3 +2 and delve boots.

Ws gear is Karieyh body delve pants rank 5 strength path Karieyh boots and a rancor necklace. No Rajas or the nni gears.

Edited, Jun 25th 2013 4:26pm by amymy
#5 Jun 25 2013 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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You should stack more STR for Soha, DEX isn't helping you much as a SAM beyond the accuracy.
#6 Jun 25 2013 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
In addition to what Dom has mentioned, Rancor Collar won't do anything for weaponskill for samurais outside of the accuracy on it. Great Katana weaponskills cannot natively crit, so the +5% Critical Hit Rate on Rancor won't do anything for you. One of the elemental gorgets corresponding to Shoha would do you far better in that regard.
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#7 Jun 25 2013 at 3:29 PM Rating: Default
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Oh more strength? I was trying to reach for the plus 15 percent critical rate for stacking more dexterity. Oh well. Back to strength lol Okok I take out the rancor collar thanks . I knew it doesn't critical but for some reason I forgot. So stupid me.



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Edited, Jun 25th 2013 5:37pm by amymy
#8 Jun 25 2013 at 5:58 PM Rating: Excellent
It might be better if you gave us a list of all your gear in some sort of order so we can dissect it more easily. For example, rather than just listing the gear in one sentence, have it like this;

Weapon: X
Grip: X
Ammo: X
Head: X

And so on. This lets us see each slot instantly, rather than going through to look for any key words in the sentence.
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#9 Jun 26 2013 at 5:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I have

Tp

Weapon ugui rank 8
Head mikinaah rank 9
Body mikinaah rank 8
Hands Karieyh moufle
Ammo thew bomblet
Grip danger grip
Back atheling
Waist dynamic belt
Neck c chain
Ring tyrant and airy ring
Pants af3 +2
Feet mikinaah

Ws
Ring2 Vulcan
Feet Karieyh
Leg mikinaah
Back Windbuffet

I got like strength plus 83 with 12/12 strength merits.
#10 Jun 26 2013 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Unless you have the "staple" jobs of Drk/Mnk/War/Sam you're not getting invited as a DD.

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#12 Jun 26 2013 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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Yep. Still gearing my SAM properly and outside of LS runs, the only delve invites I have gotten are on thf for pulling.
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#13 Jun 26 2013 at 3:48 PM Rating: Excellent
amymy wrote:
I have

Tp

Weapon ugui rank 8
Head mikinaah rank 9
Body mikinaah rank 8
Hands Karieyh moufle
Ammo thew bomblet
Grip danger grip
Back atheling
Waist dynamic belt
Neck c chain
Ring tyrant and airy ring
Pants af3 +2
Feet mikinaah

Ws
Ring2 Vulcan
Feet Karieyh
Leg mikinaah
Back Windbuffet

I got like strength plus 83 with 12/12 strength merits.


One of the easiest changes you should make is the grip. Danger Grip is one of those that really should never be used. Pole Grip will do far more for you than it. Additionally, especially given the delay on the Uguisumaru, you've got very little Store TP going for you. I'd say at most you're probably looking at a 7-hit or so, when you'd want to be shooting for a 6-hit at least. If it's an option to you, I suggest trying to get a Rajas, the Empyrean +2 body, and perhaps a Houyi's Gorget or Unkai Nodowa instead of the Chiv Chain.
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#14 Jun 26 2013 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually got store tp 5 on feet 7 on legs 4 on ring 1 from each earring. Each swing gets me tp of 17 so basically ws plus 5 hits. I do like to get more store tp tho Is it possible to get ws plus 4 hits on uguis?
#15 Jun 26 2013 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Looking at it, the Store TP you have is enough for a 6 hit, but not by a lot. With the proper gear it is possible to get a 5 hit with a 420 delay weapon, but it's getting into the best of the best sort of gear available for Samurai, which includes NNI gear, Salvage v2 gear, and Rajas Ring, to name a few.

On a different note though, I'm going to move this over to the SAM section.

Edited, Jun 26th 2013 8:38pm by Vlorsutes
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#16 Jun 27 2013 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you all for the advice. If not I would still be stacking dex like a idiot. Lol now to get more store tp :)
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