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#327 Sep 28 2008 at 3:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, it was Pixie. I guess i'll leave Ethereal in then, thought the str and dex mod was same % on Penta is why I had it in.

And yeah, the only other drg past 37 in shell is a mule, not geared on drg, and missing good r/e gear.

We have about 5 drks in shell, with merc kris' to pass around to them when we start to zerg, I wouldn't mind going as drg for Angon it for a nice boost since 4-5 drks is overkill for most of the stuff. The top 3 of us have almost equal gear/merits, so it's not like i'm needed on drk lol.

I also have job ADD, drg is a nice change from drk and mnk. I would actually prefer to Angon stuff for the time being, but i'm sure i'll move on at some point.. :/

Thnx for the info i'll adjust my macros, trying to get a body upgrade, but thier all looking like thier gonna take more time than I want. Alot more. I'll poke around with Ose some the next few weeks while waiting on Ares' and Homam drops, but I prolly will get more use of SH+1 on most stuff than the AJ.

Edit: Can't type.

Edited, Sep 28th 2008 6:13am by SamuraiKing
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#328 Oct 01 2008 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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The STR and DEX mods are the "same", in that they're both 20% mods, however, these are secondary mods, and on all WSs (Ok, excepting stuff like Spirits Within etc... all normal WSs) there is a primary STR function as well. So while DEX only gives you a DMG boost through the "20% DEX" you see printed on wiki, STR gives a DMG boost in two places, the "20% STR" you'll read on wiki, as well as earlier in the WS formular.

I never learnt the specifics, actually I think I did but forgot them, a regular math wix like milich or bsphil or someone can tell you more
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#329 Oct 01 2008 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
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DRG 64

Main: Dark Mez
Sub: Pole(Sub SAM), Mythril+1(Sub WAR)
Ammo: Elvaan RSE sachet
Head: Voyager's Sallet(O.Hat waiting for 70, can get a Walmart Turban for 75 anytime)
Neck: Chiv Chain
Earring1: Spike
Earring2: Assault
Body:SH(AJ waiting for 67)
Hands:SFG TP/Pallas WS
Rings:Woodsman TP/Victory WS
Back:Amemet(Friend stole+1 from me)
Waist: Life Belt TP/Vanguard WS
Legs: Feral(Feels good to wear pants again)
Feet:Bounding

Also wondering what I should be looking at picking up within the next few levels, as well should I get the fourth legs that I see from Bastok in the past for WS?

Edited, Oct 1st 2008 5:29pm by Dathus
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#330 Oct 01 2008 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Main: Dark MezGKL
Sub: Pole(Sub SAM), Mythril+1(Sub WAR)
Ammo: Elvaan RSE sachet
Head: Voyager's Sallet(O.Hat waiting for 70, can get a Walmart Turban for 75 anytime)
Neck: Chiv Chain
Earring1: Spike
Earring2: Assault
Body:SH(AJ waiting for 67)
Hands:SFG TP/Pallas WS
Rings:Woodsman TP/Victory WS
Back:Amemet(Friend stole+1 from me)
Waist: Life Belt TP/Vanguard WS
Legs: Feral(Feels good to wear pants again)
Feet:Bounding

Also wondering what I should be looking at picking up within the next few levels, as well should I get the fourth legs that I see from Bastok in the past for WS?


Amir feet when you can are good. Be ready to upgrade your pants, af +1 is good so is Barone.

Past that only the big upgrades come homam hands feet and body or ares if you can. get a thal, brutal can try for pcc. really your looking better then a lot of other DRGs I see. GL
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#331 Oct 01 2008 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Amir feet when you can are good. Be ready to upgrade your pants, af +1 is good so is Barone.


I see everyone going back to GKL and I wonder why? I have the Eva down proc a lot, so is it worth the loss of giving everyone the effect of Eva down, or just your own ACC up? Always curious on this argument.

I have Barone legs and feet waiting for me, as well as a Thalasso.

Why Amir feet out of curiosity?

I have an EG LS who I do sky/sea with, and I'm just waiting for my turn for Homam as well.

For WS, should I be looking for Heca gear from sky or no?

Also, when I hit 70, use O.Hat for TP and keep Voyager's til 75 when I upgrade to my Wyvern helm, or Voyager's @75 as well?

Edited, Oct 1st 2008 6:25pm by Dathus
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#332 Oct 01 2008 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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Amir feet when you can are good. Be ready to upgrade your pants, af +1 is good so is Barone.


I see everyone going back to GKL and I wonder why? I have the Eva down proc a lot, so is it worth the loss of giving everyone the effect of Eva down, or just your own ACC up?


yes it's worth the loss. EVA down doesn't proc every fight right at the start of the fight. the difference isn't huge, but GKL is ultimately better.

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Why Amir feet out of curiosity?


uhhhh, because of their stats...

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For WS, should I be looking for Heca gear from sky or no?


yes.
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#333 Oct 01 2008 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Dathus wrote:
For WS, should I be looking for Heca gear from sky or no?


The hands you can skip if you get AF+1 hands. However, they can only be used on Drg. Heca can be used on many jobs, and in that respect, Heca are superior.

The feet and body however, you should get no questions asked.
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#334 Oct 01 2008 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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#335 Oct 01 2008 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I plan on getting AF+1 Head, legs and hands so I don't lug around the whole set of AF normally. I can get Heca hands and feet easily, since we smash Suzaku and Byakko a lot in my LS. Body is getting close for my use, as Kirin's being nice with those, but stingy with Crimson legs.

I don't intend on leveling another DD who can use Heca anytime soon anyway, so AF+1 hands are the way, it seems.
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#336 Oct 01 2008 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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if i have centurions body at level 40 should i wait for sh or get something before then?
#337 Oct 01 2008 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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@45 get Home Depot body. I mean uh Brigandine. @55 you CAN get Jaridah peti, which you can then switch for SH. How I did it.
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#338 Oct 01 2008 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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alright, i was thinking about getting brigandine just wasnt sure. thanks
#339 Oct 02 2008 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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73drg here. Couple questions:

1) Marine M Boots > Tabin Boots +1 on TP? Or only swap in for WS?

Stat:

Marine M Boots: 60hp 3str 3dex 2vit 2agi (Hume Male) <--current WS
Tabin Boots +1: 3acc 3eva <--current TP

2) Dusk gloves vs Tarasque Mitts +1 vs Hume RSE Glove: TP & WS

Stats:

Dusk Glove: 3%haste, 5atk
T.Mitts +1: 12atk <--current TP
Hume RSE : 3str 3dex <--current WS

- Condition: Only other haste gear owned being W.Turban(5%); /SAM most of the time(Hasto 10%)

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#340 Oct 02 2008 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
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Freedoomone wrote:
73drg here. Couple questions:

1) Marine M Boots > Tabin Boots +1 on TP? Or only swap in for WS?

Stat:

Marine M Boots: 60hp 3str 3dex 2vit 2agi (Hume Male) <--current WS
Tabin Boots +1: 3acc 3eva <--current TP

2) Dusk gloves vs Tarasque Mitts +1 vs Hume RSE Glove: TP & WS

Stats:

Dusk Glove: 3%haste, 5atk
T.Mitts +1: 12atk <--current TP
Hume RSE : 3str 3dex <--current WS

- Condition: Only other haste gear owned being W.Turban(5%); /SAM most of the time(Hasto 10%)



(1) is ACC+3 vs STR+3 DEX+3->ACC+2~. STR+3 raises base dmg by 1 75% of the time. marine thus better 75% of the time, tabin+1 like .5% better 25% of the time. i'd wear marine.

(2) is 3% haste vs 7ATT, dusk wins regardless of haste. for WS, tarasqu+1 is probably the way. thats 10~ATT vs base dmg up by 1-2. 10ATT needs to raise dmg by around 1.5% to beat hume RSE 100% of the time, and it likely will. even with a lot of ATT (i used 600 as a base), 12ATT will raise damage by more than 2%, and therefore beat hume RSE.
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#341 Oct 02 2008 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi guys,

I have been playing for about 9 months now and decided to allow drg to be my first 75 job right now he is at lvl 61 and I am seeing all this fancy new gear and have no idea if I am going in the right direction or not. So i was wondering if anyone could let me know if this is okay or if I should be doing something completely different.

Main: Grand Knights Lance
Grip: Mythril Grip +1
Head: Walkure Mask
Neck: Mermans gorget soon to be chivalrous chain or w/e
Earrings: Spike earring and fang earring
Body: Scorpion Harness
Gloves: Spiked Finger Gauntlets
Rings: Ecphoria and Fluorite
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Swordbelt
Legs: Drachen Brais
Feet: Drachen Greaves

Also I was wondering i see a bunch of people holding items in there ammo slots is there one of these that is best for my drg/sam?

Thank you very much for any help you can offer. :D
#342 Oct 02 2008 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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Freckyb wrote:

Main: Grand Knights Lance - optimal
Grip: Mythril Grip +1 get pole grip
Head: Walkure Mask optimal
Neck: Mermans gorget soon to be chivalrous chain or w/e optimal (excepting PCC)
Earrings: Spike earring and fang earring assault earring / spike earring
Body: Scorpion Harness good, assault jerkin if you can.
Gloves: Spiked Finger Gauntlets optimal
Rings: Ecphoria and Fluorite drop flourite, get woodsman-or-sniper. ecphoria fine.
Back: Amemet Mantle +1 optimal
Waist: Swordbelt get life belt, eat meat
Legs: Drachen Brais useless, get republic subligar or other +offensive stat item.
Feet: Drachen Greaves no one knows what these do for jump, but they have no apparent offensive bonus. tabin+1 are a good option, or crow/raven here and on legs.
ammo: tiphia sting or smart grenade. if you're elvaan, RSE satchet is ok.
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#343 Oct 03 2008 at 5:59 AM Rating: Default
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here i am again with another question.
if i use walahra + dusk gloves + hasso i'm gatting a 18% haste, right? in that case, what is better as feet? Barone or Dusk ledelsens? +2% haste more and 4 attack or 2str +5 attack?

ty again ^^
#344 Oct 03 2008 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Dusk better than Barone, but Amir beat both.
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#345 Oct 03 2008 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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NoodlesCCCLV wrote:
Dusk better than Barone, but Amir beat both.


This, but adding the qualifier that dusk only loses to amir if you're under ~40% total haste and if your accuracy is <92% while wearing Dusk Ledelsens.

I know it's not as compact and snappy of an answer, but too bad. FFXI doesn't work that way; **** is situational.



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#346 Oct 08 2008 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
finally picked up a PCC and brigandine +1

I have the full wonder set as well. (TARU RSE)
emp hairpin, +7 atk mask spike necklace
beetle+1 earrings (spike at 55)
battle gloves, chk +3 str rings and a +3 acc ring
(should i upgrade to wood/snipers with a PCC?)
jaguar mantle on my back, brave/life/tilt belts for waist
leaping boots also.

using mythril +1 also carrying AF for sync pts (lvl 49 drg atm)

with this gear, what should i upgrade?
(all i can think of is republic subligar ><)

I see some body armor at 55 (will likely pick up the HQ) and i have AJ waiting.

some lvl 50 gloves coming up too (+atk)

what str/atk gear can i get away with since I have pcc?
(i'm aware it varies some, but i'd like a starting point idea)

can someone please help me with a set-up? maybe a WS gear set and a TP set?

thanks a bunch! will check on this at lunchtime <(^.^)>



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#347 Oct 08 2008 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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ZacheusofGilgamesh wrote:
(should i upgrade to wood/snipers with a PCC?)
jaguar mantle on my back, brave/life/tilt belts for waist
with this gear, what should i upgrade?
(all i can think of is republic subligar ><)

I see some body armor at 55 (will likely pick up the HQ) and i have AJ waiting.

some lvl 50 gloves coming up too (+atk)

what str/atk gear can i get away with since I have pcc?
(i'm aware it varies some, but i'd like a starting point idea)

If you can aford Brig+1, yes get snipers. And Republic Subligar. Akinji (55 HQ) Peti will last you till AJ.

Just having PCC doesn't automatically mean you don't need other accuracy gear so don't be fooled.

Ditch Brave, get Swordbelt+1.

You have penta thrust, best advice is keep the same Acc/Att setup you're using for TP as for WS, as penta needs accuracy to be remotely decent.
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#348 Oct 08 2008 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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(should i upgrade to wood/snipers with a PCC?)
jaguar mantle on my back, brave/life/tilt belts for waist
with this gear, what should i upgrade?
(all i can think of is republic subligar ><)

I see some body armor at 55 (will likely pick up the HQ) and i have AJ waiting.

some lvl 50 gloves coming up too (+atk)

what str/atk gear can i get away with since I have pcc?
(i'm aware it varies some, but i'd like a starting point idea)

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If you can aford Brig+1, yes get snipers. And Republic Subligar. Akinji (55 HQ) Peti will last you till AJ.

Just having PCC doesn't automatically mean you don't need other accuracy gear so don't be fooled.

Ditch Brave, get Swordbelt+1.

You have penta thrust, best advice is keep the same Acc/Att setup you're using for TP as for WS, as penta needs accuracy to be remotely decent.

ah right, i forgot I had swdbelt +1 already.

I'll pick up 2 snipers then, along with subligar ><; akinji when i get to 55.

are you suggesting a meat build here or a sushi build? (sounds like meat)

i understand to hold onto life belt for really evasive stuff (especially if I eat meat) ::which do you recommend? best stuff? avg food? cheap stuff?::

::now, if you're suggesting a meat build... why not wear life belt and 2 +3 str rings?
(isn't 6str [+3 atk] and 10 acc, 12 fire resist > 10acc -15 def +12 atk)::



Edited, Oct 8th 2008 1:34pm by ZacheusofGilgamesh
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You should never have to use sushi on DRG in exp ever.
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#350 Oct 09 2008 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
isn't 6str [+3 atk] and 10 acc, 12 fire resist > 10acc -15 def +12 atk

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#351 Oct 09 2008 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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ZacheusofGilgamesh wrote:
isn't 6str [+3 atk] and 10 acc, 12 fire resist > 10acc -15 def +12 atk

see also, above post(s)


probably not. why are you mentioning stats like fire resist? that doesn't do anything.
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