The official "rate my gear" threadFollow

Sadly, no I wasn't joking about that question. I've been reading around, and I keep seeing that some people prefer AJ over hecatomb for Pentathrust. Since I'm not on PC (so I can't parse myself), I don't really trust the numbers I happen to see with my gear (and I refuse to blindly trust my instincts, which were to wear hecatomb for all WS). Most everything I wear (or try to wear) comes from reading countless sources on how to play DRG.

Anyway, thanks for the advice, guys. As I get more stuff, I will probably post more newbie questions like that...

Edit: Page 3 belongs to me!

Edited, Apr 8th 2008 11:17pm by HugeTiny

I can't say i've ever noticed you 'being mean'.

On a completely unrelated note, I've decided I'm going to get an Amir Korazin.

I'm having trouble's deciding on my Penta setup. I'm currently using:

WEAP: Thalassocrat
GRIP: Pole Strap
AMMO: Smart Grenade
HEAD: Ace's Helm >> Until i can get a Hecatomb Cap :x
NECK: Love Torque
EAR1: Ethereal Earring >> Bushinomimi?
EAR2: Brutal Earring
BODY: Hecatomb Harness
HAND: Hecatomb Mittens >> Tarasque Mitts +1?
RING: Rajas Ring
RING: Flame Ring
BACK: Forager's Mantle
WAST: Potent Belt
LEGS: Barone Cosciales >> Any number of things would prolly be better
FEET: Hecatomb Leggings >> Amir Boots?

Main issues are the hand and feet slots i suppose. Suggestions? I have capped Polearm and STR too if that helps.

I go for pretty much straight STR at on Wheeling Thrust:

WEAP: Thalassocrat
GRIP: Pole Strap
AMMO: Smart Grenade
HEAD: Wyvern Helm >> Until i can get a Hecatomb Cap :x
NECK: Love Torque
EAR1: Bushinomimi >> Ethereal Earring?
EAR2: Brutal Earring
BODY: Hecatomb Harness
HAND: Alkyoneus's >> Tarasque Mitts +1/Hecatomb Mittens?
RING: Rajas Ring
RING: Flame Ring
BACK: Forager's Mantle
WAST: Warwolf Belt
LEGS: Barone Cosciales >> Any number of things would prolly be better
FEET: Hecatomb Leggings >> Amir Boots?

Thanks for any suggestions/advice.

In the interest of the thread I am also going to post my current setup. I don't currently switch out any thing on my WS, but I will once my level gets high enough.

Level 69
Weapon: Dark Mezraq
Sub: Pole Strap
Ammo: Tiphia Sting
Head: Valkyrie's Mask
Neck: Chivalrous Chain
Ear1: Coral Earring
Ear2: Coral Earring
Body: Assault Jerkin
Hands: Spike Finger Gauntlets
Ring1: Raja's
Ring2: Woodsman
Back: Amemet +1
Waist: Life Belt
Legs: Feral Trousers
Feet: Savage Gaiters

I have been mostly xping on imps/jnun/flies in the Mire recently and my acc, although lower than I would like, has been acceptable to me. Leveling will help me out. I will probably start using my O. hat at 70 instead of my valkyrie's mask. I will replace feral trousers and savage gaiters with barone gear. @ 73 I already have heca harness, and heca leggings, and the abjuration for heca gloves (going to try to get a +1). I need about 10 more ancient beastcoins and I can get the Drachen Breeches +1. I already have the cobalt mythril sheet and the blue rivet for it. On imps/Jnun I am seeing as /sam about 480-600 average damage on my pentas, with peaks up towards 850 with no bard. My biggest focus for improvement right now is accuracy. So I am thinking about picking up an assault earring when I get a chance. I was going to use my Mamool Assault points to get an Imperial Neza at 71, but now I think I will just get a colossal at 70 and hold out for a Thassalacrat, and get amir boots first.

Not really, unless you are doing Wheeling Thrust without sneak attack and then it is debateable. You would be better served that way with a Flame Gorget anyway, so no, I don't think there is a situation where you would want a Chiv Chain.



Not really no. In the situation where you need the accuracy, life is going to be better. In the situation where you need the str, Warwolf is better.



You don't really need these, you already have homam for tp, you "could" use them until you get heca feet, but you might as well save your assault points there and go for salvage points for ares feet. I don't know on this one.



I would still consider this... +3 enmity on gloves is alot when you are already doing a ton of damage. Again, this would be purely based on what you feel. You have enough accuracy in your set right now to be @ about 88-90% acc, so that exta acc from the homam could be more useful to you. This would be up to your discretion.

Lastly you may want to consider getting some of the sea gorgets (dark, flame) for WS. I know alot of people think that they don't work, but all the data I have seen hasn't convinced me to not use mine right now. I will just supply this last bit of info in favor or getting them. Take it how you will.

http://releenaseraph.livejournal.com/113685.html?thread=223765#t223765

Look at the comments down at the bottom. I will just say, it is much more believable than a test using asuran fists.

Why not. I'm not capable at the moment of doing a lot of the farming/camping to make some of the adjustments I want to, but I just wanted to see about some opinions on things.

TP
Weapon: Mezraq(currently I don't have enough gil to cover the difference in the price between cost of the Mez and a Thalassocrat, so for the time being this'll have to stick)
Sub: Pole Strap
Ammo: Smart Grenade
Head: Walahra Turban(somewhere near top of the list for Ace's Helm, which will be taking it's place)
Neck: Peacock Charm(if JoL plays nice this weekend, Love Torque)
Ears: Brutal Earring + Assault Earring
Body: Homam Corazza(one of, in my opinion, the weak points of my TP gear, I feel like I'm already drowning in accuracy and that it may be overkill)
Hands: Homam Manopalas
Rings: Woodsman + Rajas
Back: Amemet+1(the cost involved in getting 1-2 more STR out of this slot at the moment seems wasteful to me. Plus it's signed by a friend who quit a while ago)
Waist: Swift Belt
Legs: Drachen Brais +1(Omega's been mean to my group on pants, only 2 drops in about a year)
Feet: Homam Gambieras

I'm overall pretty happy with my TP gear. My main concern is my body slot. When I have time I plan on going after Ose again, I'm only 0/4 or something so it's not as though I've put in huge amounts of effort in the past. In the meantime, with homam body I've got 56 accuracy in gear with homam body. I wish I remembered if the Bard was using madrigal or not but the last time I parsed on birds I got 93.5% accuracy in this setup with just 4 Polearm merits. Back in the brief 1to1 period I upgraded my AF body to use in that slot, which in hindsight was a waste of 40 coins, but anyway, once I get a hold of Ace's Helm I think I'll feel more comfortable losing some of that body accuracy.

...what's in my opinion pretty abysmal at the moment is my WS 'set'. I use set in the loosest possible way, as I don't change much at the moment. Currently I'm only swapping in Paluwahn Head, Drachen Finger Gauntlets +1 and Wyrm Belt over their respective spots. In terms of things I want to eventually get, N. head is pretty much just a matter of having Fafnir pop in a time when I'm not asleep or at work or school, N Body is pretty well uncontested in my sky shell and is mostly a matter of time, and I'm sitting on N feet, but want to try for an HQ on the synth(it is tier 1-able right? I don't want to be wasting a ton of time fishing up multiple angel skins for no real reason). Also looking at getting Ares Legs for WS/TP if I still don't have Homam legs as a placeholder for Heca legs, which I imagine would be better.

As for what I can do *now* for my WS set. I have Rutter Sabatons, but I'm not sure if the loss of 6 accuracy from the feet is worth the gains. I am currently getting a net gain of 10 accuracy with what I swap into now so maybe it's not as scary as I'm feeling? Also, Tarasque Mitts +1 over AF+1 hands? if I'm calculating right WSC is raised by 1 with the AF+1, and they additionally give 3acc and 3att, versus mitts doing just 12 attack. I'm thinking AF+ hands are better but I'm not entirely sure? Also, I know the standard suggestion of Amir Boots is going to come up but they're unfortunately out of the question as my assault points are all going towards Salvage

Anyway, yeah, sorry for the wall of text, had a lot more to say than I thought I would. I appreciate any advice.

Edited, Apr 9th 2008 1:49pm by HalEmmerich

Well, in your tp set, if you just switch out your swordbelt +1 for your life belt, and if you switch your flame ring out to a sniper that will put you at +48 acc, which should put you at about 91% acc. Once you get the rajas, I would probably go 1 sniper and rajas in the ring slots and it might drop you to 90% acc maybe. On weaponskill, the Heca harness gives you another +7 acc, so you can leave that there. I would probably keep the life belt for WS too at this stage. IMO it is worth it to get the sea gorgets, and that would give you another +5 acc on your WSs over your chivalrous chain (if the test that I posted is right). Sad thing is... the gorgets that drg wants probably (dark, light) both take 2 yovra organs to complete, which really sucks.

And thus 39Acc would give me 90%, I can deal with 90%. Checking my TP setup then:

Thalassocrat | Pole Strap  |               | Angon (yeah yeah, I know) 
W.Turban     | Chiv Chain  | Assault Ear   | Fowling Ear 
***.Jerkin   | Dusk Gloves | Sniper's Ring | Sniper's Ring 
Amemet+1     | Swift Belt  | Dusk Trousers | Amir Boots 
Total: Acc+33 (87%), Att+63, Haste+12%, DA+2%, Str+8

And that's the kicker, untill I get me some Homamege, in that setup anything that isn't an Acc piece is a killer Att piece (Dusk, AJ) or a haste piece (Swift/Dusk/Turban).

Other Acc gear I could swap in: O.Hat, P.Body, Hydra FG, Life Belt, Galliard Trousers.
Is it worth swapping any of this around for TPing? Or should I stick at 87% Acc and just try to work some more acc into my WS build? Lucky for me I don't domuch tough endgame on Drg, so I'm not worried about facing harder enemies.

As for WS build, if I'm at: Acc+34, Str+14, Att+82.5. Swapping in Flame for Sniper's would give me Acc+39(90%), Str+9, Att+78.75. That looks like a better idea, but should I do more?
Swap Rutters for Amir? That'd give: Acc+44(92.5%), Str+6, Att+76.5?
Or Sword+1 for Life? That'd give: Acc+49(95%, cap), Str+9, Att+66.75?

Opinions?

He means without. It takes 407 Acc to reach cap, and 387 to hit 85%. Natively a Mithra DRG/SAM has 358( 292 skill=282 ACC, 72*.75=54, 22 from trait). To reach 387 from 358, add 29. Incidentally, yes, I have to use Seigan pretty much full time too, especially on Colibri unless you want to be a mp sink(I still like WHM better there though).



Edited, Apr 10th 2008 10:44am by Souji

That's when its WAR sub time :P

Depending on the Mamool, it takes anywhere between 398(lv 81 Stabler) to 506(83 Lurker) acc to cap it.

Maybe put more acc into your WS set. 2/5 hit pentas aren't fun.

Edited, Apr 11th 2008 6:30am by NoodlesCCCLV

Thanks for the info guys. My TP return is usually 18-19 on merit mobs. I should have stated that I add in more Acc when fighting mamools or when I start missing hits with penta. What I posted is my typical WS gear but I do take notice of my TP return and adjust as needed. I do plan on getting an O.hat and using that for penta instead of the Wyvern Helm.

Was unsure of which gorget to get for wheeling, light or flame. Does it matter which one or are they pretty much the same thing since wheeling is light and fire based? I know penta is dark so I'll be getting the shadow one for it.

Thanks again.