I am sure this topic has been brought up before, but I can't seem to find it...
Basically I'm curious about why Summoner's Doublet would be worth having over YYR?
Is it a situational piece or is it a macro piece (if so when) or do most of you use it primarily over YYR?
Information or links (to previous material on this topic if it exists) would be most helpful. Thank you in advance.
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SMN Doublet vs YinYangFollow
It's a great piece to have to swap in for physical rage bloodpacts (due to the +3% critical hit rate), and it's a good body to equip when the day of the week matches the avatar you're using to help reduce the perpetuation cost. Apart from those though, the Yinyang Robe is superior to it in every way.
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I macro it in and out for bloodpacts. As for perpetuation, it's kinda useless for me because I use only 2 avatars (Garuda and Fenrir) 90% of the time for meleeing, and even when they do match the day, it's a hassle to change body armor and i like the Enmity+5 of YYR. Also, I hate the look of summoner artifact and relic gear, lol.
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I think the SMN relic gear is beautifull, i like the look very much.
I always wanted to have both pieces. As mentioned by others, relic body is great for macroing in during BP (because of the +3% critical hit).
I also use it for avatar of the day (obviously) for the -3 perpetuation cost. After i got it i started to use ALL of my avatars again, it´s fun and helps a ton during solo sometimes.
YY robe is good for everything else, incl. Carby, as an idle piece for the refresh etc..
From the start of my SMN career i wanted to have both. There is not much gear you´ll absolutely want as a SMN, at least not compared to some other jobs, and certainly not for the body slot.
Relic body and YY both are fantastic for our job, and if you can, you probably should try to get both.
Also, some people try to tone the usefullness of one or the other down, mainly because they don´t have one or the other, are to lazy to get them or don´t have the means to do so.
Ask yourself how much you really are into the SMN job, look at relic and YY after that and decide for yourself!
I always wanted to have both pieces. As mentioned by others, relic body is great for macroing in during BP (because of the +3% critical hit).
I also use it for avatar of the day (obviously) for the -3 perpetuation cost. After i got it i started to use ALL of my avatars again, it´s fun and helps a ton during solo sometimes.
YY robe is good for everything else, incl. Carby, as an idle piece for the refresh etc..
From the start of my SMN career i wanted to have both. There is not much gear you´ll absolutely want as a SMN, at least not compared to some other jobs, and certainly not for the body slot.
Relic body and YY both are fantastic for our job, and if you can, you probably should try to get both.
Also, some people try to tone the usefullness of one or the other down, mainly because they don´t have one or the other, are to lazy to get them or don´t have the means to do so.
Ask yourself how much you really are into the SMN job, look at relic and YY after that and decide for yourself!
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I've recently fixed my macros so they my BP accuracy/att build right before the avatar hits with its BP includes the doublet instead of yinyang.
For multi-hit BP like predator claws 3% chance of a crit isn't really 3%, 3% per hit over 3 hits adds up to 9% chance 1 of the 3 hits will crit, EVEN if Garuda misses one or more hits. -- As the probability of critical is independent of the probability of failing to connect on a hit.
The rationale here is the +crit helps more than the +enmity by increasing chance of a higher damage output.
YY is good for Carby solo as it gives more hate over time to carby's melee hits
Note that I also have a minimum BP build right before I switch to the acc/attk gear where I use YY.
And naturally for standing around gear, YY is what I use as the refresh effect is hard to beat.
If you have both bodies, consider yourself supremely lucky.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2008 12:37pm by Dekusutaa
For multi-hit BP like predator claws 3% chance of a crit isn't really 3%, 3% per hit over 3 hits adds up to 9% chance 1 of the 3 hits will crit, EVEN if Garuda misses one or more hits. -- As the probability of critical is independent of the probability of failing to connect on a hit.
The rationale here is the +crit helps more than the +enmity by increasing chance of a higher damage output.
YY is good for Carby solo as it gives more hate over time to carby's melee hits
Note that I also have a minimum BP build right before I switch to the acc/attk gear where I use YY.
And naturally for standing around gear, YY is what I use as the refresh effect is hard to beat.
If you have both bodies, consider yourself supremely lucky.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2008 12:37pm by Dekusutaa
YY is only for using avatars the wrong day.
Correct day usage makes Doublet always better. (Because we do not need enmity on avatars nor another 2 seconds shaved off)
So it really depends on your style of playing.
Correct day usage makes Doublet always better. (Because we do not need enmity on avatars nor another 2 seconds shaved off)
So it really depends on your style of playing.
the Crit % on smn doublet makes it worth getting imo. I use YYR only on carby (or any avatar) kiting, and standing idle for the refresh. I use Penance robe for perpetuation 100% of the time.
>.> (dont have the smn doublet ... i Q_Q a lot over this)
>.> (dont have the smn doublet ... i Q_Q a lot over this)
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