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#127 Jul 20 2006 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
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Soloed Frenetic Rip on the Ship to Nashmau, 1/1



/heartbreakemoslitwrist

what did you use to break the horn lol
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#128 Jul 20 2006 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
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Soloed Frenetic Rip on the Ship to Nashmau, 1/1



/heartbreakemoslitwrist

what did you use to break the horn lol
Pull with Sheep Song, silence with Chaotic Eye, SACA Mandibular Bite, Head **** spam while awake
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#129 Jul 20 2006 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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what level were you? O.o i just hit 60
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#130 Jul 20 2006 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
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#131 Jul 21 2006 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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Whoa! {Congratulations!}. I love to read about Blus still "actually" learning, ^^. Hope isn't all lost.

Cool, I just have a couple questions. How many boat rides did you have to take? I've ridden a few times, but, have never seen an Imp spawn yet (I know they do though). How hard was the fight?
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#132 Jul 21 2006 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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Took a little break from BLU so I can unlock and level NIN. So far I've gotten to L.12. I'm hoping to get a few levels so I can change back to L.23 BLU.

Must...learn...every....mob ability. I wish they add Frog Drop to the game. And dinner forks.
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#133 Jul 23 2006 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
You do not have to live through a fight to learn an ability...
I just learned Queezyshroom from a Forest Fungar in West Ronfaure and died before killing it..
After HPingthe spell was in my inventory...
I do not belive that killing an enemy quickly has anything to do with the success rate of learning the spell..
The learning takes place at the same time the particular mob uses the skill..
#134 Jul 23 2006 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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You actually learn the spell the moment it dies. The message will appear before anything like exp gained and who got the final blow. If you kill each other at the same time (which is what it sounds like you did) you were, technically, alive when it died.

It was specifically stated by SE that you can not learn a spell if you are dead when the monster dies (should this be proven wrong SE needs to sack their translator).

Edit: 1/2 Death Scissors
1/2 Dimensional Death
0/3 Bad Breath

BLU ftw!

Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 9:34am EDT by Perim
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#135 Jul 24 2006 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
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MrGalak, hmmm, that seems kinda hard to swallow. I'm not saying you're lying, but, I can't come to believe that just now. I'd have to see/hear more proof before believing that one.

Also, no big story here for these two. I learned Bad Breath and Maelstrom as well when I logged on Sat. Went 1/1 on each that morning (I was 0/3 on Bad Breath and 0/1 on Maelstrom the previous log in).

Feather Tickle - This one, I don't have a count of. I learned it during an xp party in Bhaflau Thickets. Although, I do think I learned it within the first 10 pulls after I gained level 58. I "think" that you can't learn it at lvl 57. I say that, because, I've been xping on Colibris for a while now, so, just an observation I made for myself.

Good luck, keep up the good work everyone, ^^.

Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 10:48am EDT by Nicest

Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 11:57am EDT by Nicest
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#136 Jul 25 2006 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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Well, for the people who do use my thread to help, I'm letting you guys know, I'm taking another break from Blu soon.

With the new update, there's lots of things I need to merit for once again. I want ALL the new Rdm spells, DEFINITELY have to get Ninja Tools Expertise, Ninja ability "Sange", probably going to cap spell interruption rate, then, build up another 10 merits, to have waiting for my Blu or my Drg when they reach level 75. So, it'll be a while, but, when I return, I'll revive my thread if no one else keeps it going.

See you when I see you, and good luck to everyone. Maybe they'll come out with the category 2 merit stuff before I return, ^^.
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#137 Jul 27 2006 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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Well, due to the severe difficulty of being able to complete Blu AF all the way, I may just keep on leveling, and not worry about completing AF. I'll do it between meritting sessions I suppose. /Sigh, first time I've felt down about Blu......ever.

Good luck to all.
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#138 Jul 27 2006 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Yea me to nice... combine AF with frenetic rip and spinal cleave i feel like **** over it.. i killed my mnk friend over 7 times trying to get rip and still didnt get it, didnt even see it once...didnt try spinal cleave...AF cloth is 4m why SE WHY! wasnt learning spells stressfull enough???? probably gonna quit ffxi out right soon


/vent off


Gonna go lay down or sumthing :/
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#139 Jul 31 2006 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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Gonna go lay down or sumthing :/

This thread has laid low long enough.

BUMP!!!!

Every Blue Mage has a nemesis spell, I mean EVERY Blue Mage. I had done extremely well with learning spells before, but this one really got on my nerves. The spell stinks and the monster is named after a habbit I wish didn't exist.

Bad Breath! - Marlboro ciggies >,<(Morbol)

(>^)-~ ... Smoking kills **** it! (>X)-~

7-8 hours of farming Ochu in Rolanberry fields and I finally learnt Bad Breath. I was begining to think the "Increases learning rate" was glitch to be "reduces learning rate to near enough 0". I spent 6 hours yesturday trying to learn it got annoyed and logged off for bed. Came back in the morning still no luck. Finally got it after about 5 more Ochu today (Time being 23:54 >.>).

Learnt Feather Tickle while in a party killing Lesser Colibri by the Leypoint.

Learnt 1000 Needles after about 3 hours.

Learnt Eyes on Me after about 5 monsters.

0/1 on Maelstrom so far camping that Kraken was a pain so I'm off to buy a fishing rod >.>
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Q: What do the coloured squares mean when I set blue magic spells?

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#140 Aug 01 2006 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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Man, thanks for your revival Perim, ^^.

Sorry to hear about that Deathpain, ;;. I was sure you'd find a way or something.

Well, I'm here to say some good news actually. Yesterday, I went to party on my Blu (havn't in such a long time, been meritting again). I managed to get about 39k xp in Wajaom Woodlands, carrying me from lvl 59-61 (I was like, 15k TNL to 60 at the start of the party). It was great! I imagine I could've gone farther if I wanted, but, that morning, me and a friend went duoing, to try farm Soulflayers. After about 45min of farming, we managed to get a cape to drop. Hoping for another drop, so we both would have all the silk we needed, we farmed for about two more hours, but, had no luck. We did end up getting 3 staves to drop though, that I'm hoping my friend can successfully desynth for me for some good gil (bloodwood lumber)

After I xping for hours on end, waiting for my friend to log on that I knew had clothcrafting skills, I sent him a /tell. He said to give him a minute, and he'd attempt the desynth for me. My partner that had helped me, got fustrated with the drop rate on these, and bought at least one of his silks yesterday for 800k (got ****** when he saw the new update for today, ;;). Anyway, my good friend Ergoth (Whm on Phoenix server, lvl 72+3 (I think +3) Clothcrafter) told me to meet him in Windy for the attempt. I had full confidence in him (before he told me he was lvl 72 cloth, I "thought" he was 100, :P). As he begins, I'm cheering him on. OMG! He HQed the desynth for me, ^^. His fee was going to be, "if" he got a HQ, he'd give me two, and take the third. Well, he said, since the drop is so rare, he'd wave the fee for me. I was like, whoa, thanks! Instead of selling the third one for some GOOD gil, I gave it to my friend who helped me farm it (Rikanya). Now, Ergoth has helped two more Blus be able to fully complete Blu AF now, with the most expensive item out of the way.

If you read this, thanks again (for the millionth time) Ergoth!

Don't give up hope Death, ;;. Find you a good friend, and try duo/trio those mobs, if it turns out, that the synthesis recipe is still just as rough.

Now, I'm level 61. Man, I don't know about others, but, MBing is back again, ^^ (it fell off a bit, when xping on puks, because, MBing just wasn't doing too well). Now, I'm MBing my gravitation SCs with Eyes on Me, and it's doing around 382dmg or so. I'm also thinking, AF head is having something to do with that. Though I have my silks now, I still don't have full AF yet. Just the weapon, feet, and head like most others. I'm working on getting the rest soon.

Keep up the good work everyone, Blu owns!

I'll be back to learning spells soon enough. Currently working on meritting all the Rdm spells still, and now, upgrading my new job trait Ninja Tools Expertise, ^^.
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#141 Aug 01 2006 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Currently level 47 BLU, and having a **** of a time getting Self-Destruct. I haven't had this much trouble with a spell since the early levels (Cocoon, anyone?)...

Currently I kill Feu Follets in Gusgen mines on the bottom level. They are easy enough to kill, but are still strong enough so feeding them TP isn't a chore. With Barfira up, even a full HP Self-Destruct won't kill me, so its nice and safe. Now...I have been hit with Self-Destruct at least 30 times, and still nothing. I keep checking my list in case I get nailed by the list glitch (happened to me on Chaotic Eye, hunted it for a few hours one day without learning it, logged out - logged back in next day and in my mog house I check my list and there it was), but no luck there either.

Anyone else have a suggested place for learning this?
#142 Aug 01 2006 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know what to tell you. I farmed my Self-Destruct there as well. Ran back and forth between two rooms killing Spunkies. There were a total of four spawn points. At the rate I was killing them, one was always up at all times.

Spunkies are lower level as well.
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#143 Aug 01 2006 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
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Well I wanted to start by saying that in my experience the higher the level of the monster from which ur trying to learn the better chance that u have to learn. NOT fact(that i know of at least) just what i have observered. For example, I learned both frightful roar and coldwave in Ulg. Range first time used as mid 40 blu. Pinecone bomb 1st time used from treeants in Lufaise meadows as 36 blu. I always like to go for mobs much higher lvl them me if I can help it just from this observation and it seems to save me time in the long run. I know some people have trouble with this luxury. Me, i have a close friend who is lvling blu also and he tanks them naked(if mob wasnt hitting him) while i wait/cure/feed tp if i can until I learn it then we switch. Obviously we both have high lvl jobs. In any case here is where I obtained these spells upto lvl 64. By default learn is within 10 uses unless stated otherwise. Also all used the buddy method with higher lvl mobs. I also included ones Ive notice people having problems with so maybe this post might help someone

lvl 8 Metalic body Gustav Tunnel 1/20ish(still a pain, crabs deeper in)
lvl 16 healing breeze East Altep desert lvl 18 blastbomb Miserax coast (Warchaines closest to Qufim port)
lvl 34 deathray Psoxja (1000 eyes down hole in uncapped zone)
lvl 36 pinecone bomb Lufaise meadows (Leshys at the upper left of zone)
lvl 44 stinking gas Garaige citadal (2 of them downstairs past weapons)
lvl 48 Jetterra Riv.site B 1/15 (Had to duo them, had no choice)
lvl 48 refueling Mount. Z (Trio w/ 75 nin,friend stunned)
lvl 50 ice break Feiyn 1/12 (collosses, harder ones down stairs)
lvl 50 Frightful roar Ulg. range (He went 73 bst and used raptor pets)
lvl 54 radiant breath Riv.site B 1/25 (Trio w/ 3 blus)
lvl 61 Maelstorm Sea serpant grotto(The devil mantas behind gold)
lvl 62 Mememto mori Attowa chasm 1/20+(as 73 bst,pain, only pop at night)
lvl 63 Frentic rip Caed, mire1/1 (many Heretic imps, horn broke w/ rampage)
lvl 63 Spinal cleave Arrop. reef1/1 (many Qutrub near the staging point there, took my friend as 75 drk and a 75 pld and me curing as blu/whm. Weapon easy to break, however cleave is rarely used even when he is in hand to hand)
lvl 64 Voracious trunk Waj woodlands (Got lucky and hoped in merit party and learned it 1/2 =)
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#145 Aug 02 2006 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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1/1 Frenetic Rip: Solo'd it on the boat to Nashmau, they only spawn at night.

0/5 Spinal Cleave: Took about 4 hours to see it 5 times. Has anyone confirmed learning spells in Besieged? I just don't see me getting a lot of these conditional spells without learning in Besieged, it's hard getting people to fight level 75+ mobs to learn a spell that they rarely use.
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two things one the rumor about CHR hear it yes/no and barring? and two max number of spells you can learn i a JP day, is there a limit and if soo what is it?
#147 Aug 02 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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1) "I" don't believe in the Chr rumor.

2) There is no limit to how many spells you can learn at any given time.

I have a question though. For those that have soloed Frenetic Rip on the boat to Nashmau, how did you break horn? I have yet to attempt to learn moves from mobs that need their weapons broken, so, I have no clue yet. Just wondering so I can attempt to do this myself. Also, how hard was the fight?

Edited, Mar 16th 2007 9:29am by Nicest
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#148 Aug 02 2006 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just learnt Frenetic Rip in Caedarva Mire.

Duoing with another BLU we managed to break the horn with Sneak Attack (critical hits will break the horn, you dont have to time it to when they use a Tantra move or with a Weapon Skill). You do however (as far as I know) have to be behind the mob (I dont mean just when doing it with Sneak Attack). Managed to learn Frenetic Rip 1/1.

Also learnt Maelstrom on the ferry on the way to Nashmau to learn Frenetic Rip. Again 1/1 ^^.

While soloing on the ferry I pulled an Apkallu through the door to the inside and learnt Yawn 1/1 ^^ makes a nice change of pace from the 10+hours total to get bad breath and 1000 needles.
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#149 Aug 03 2006 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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Cool, I have maxed Crit. Hit Rate merits. I can break the horn from in front with critical attacks? Is that what you're saying, or, do I have to be behind the imp to break it?

From the sound of things, it seems, riding the ferry at night a few times, sounds like a great idea. Can grab a couple spells while I'm at it.
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#150 Aug 03 2006 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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It should be possible to break the horn from infront. When I duoed with the other BLU the horn of an imp broke but was reformed before we could give the imp the TP for Frenetic Rip (sleepga II is a pain ><). When we checked the log the only thing we could see that might have broken the horn was that the other BLU had scored a critical hit on the imp (from infront).
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Q: What do the coloured squares mean when I set blue magic spells?

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#151 Aug 03 2006 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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I have question though. For those that have soloed Frenetic Rip on the boat to Nashmau, how did you break horn? I have yet to attempt to learn moves from mobs that need their weapons broken, so, I have no clue yet. Just wondering so I can attempt to do this myself. Also, how hard was the fight?


I was /THF and what I tried to do is Sleep >> SA Mandibular Bite/Death Scissors. I fought two using that method, and a horn didn't break until I scored a normal crit on the second one lol. So just a normal critical hit broke the horn. He used the ability almost immediately, and I went 1/1.
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