If you could have another JA for Cor what would it be?Follow

Well since SE seems to like stances I have 2:

Riposte - Increases parry and counter rate. (+30 parry skill & 10 Counter)
Prise de fer - Increase attack rate and attack power. (10% Attack speed increase & 10% attack)

I would love something that worked like seigan + third eye, so I don't die as often after a berserk WS. It would allow more soloability too.

Anything to boost damage would be nice.

New rolls - Chocobo roll for movement speed, and a sneak + invis roll. Obviously a haste roll would be great.

Love the idea of a roll not hitting a cor. I hate losing cor roll for 2 minutes to give evoker's.

I love both of these ideas! They even have some thoughtful names to go with them. You two both have my vote.

PS Can we work in some Princess Bride stances? Bonetti's Defence? Capa Ferro?

The stances always come with some sort of penalty, so what would your suggested penalty for these be?

I'd love to enhance either our damage capabilities or our support capabilities.

For Damage:

Trump - Job Ability
Timer: 5:00
Level 55
Increases the effectiveness of the last roll by 10% for self.


For Support:

Stacked Deck - Job Ability
Timer: 10:00
Level 60
Rolls dice. Effected by Double-Up. Erases one or more harmful status effects depending on the total of the dice rolled.

I'd like one of these.
Ante
Lv60 Corsair
Recast: 5:00
Increases the strength of your next Phantom Roll in exchange for reduced duration. Also, any bust penalty recieved while active will effect all party members within area of effect.
This would provide a straight 25% increase to the effect of the next Phantom Roll effect and the bust penalty will be the same 25% additional. This does not seem too unbalanced to me as Corsairs at Lv60 do not have Snake Eye or Fold and therefore risking (what this job is about) a bigger effect will be more risky due to the bust effect hitting all party members.

Sleight
Lv30 Corsair
Recast: 10:00
Removes the penalty from an "unlucky" Phantom Roll effect and reverts it's value to the nearest value rounded down.
This one takes the risk out of most rolls once every 10 minutes and will be a godsend to lower level Corsair's who tend to get that oh so frequent VIII Chaos Roll. It'll pretty much give a VIII roll the value of a VII one as an example.

Edited, Jan 26th 2010 8:02pm by Tatham

I've been screaming for parry ja since job was released.

Other than that. Cor is fine with me.

I think that could work if it went alongside a stance. It would have to require a Hexagun, 6 different elemental cards (excluding light and dark), consume both QD charges, and alter the recast for each QD to 2 min.

The formula for QD would have to be altered for that ability as well to keep from doing instant 1800+ dmg.

don't really need any new JAs, but would love silver bullets.

I'd have to say i'm very happy with the way COR already is, but I have always thought this would be a neat addition:

Sleight of Hand
Recast:15 min
Duration:1 min
Effect: Forces next double up to be -1

Kind of like a reverse Snake Eye

-Ath

so you guys don't want "Pianissimo" for Corsair :O?

This is arguably the single most overpowered adjustment I've ever heard of.

To clarify: you believe that from LV65 on, COR should have the ability to reset everyone's 2hr abilities and completely refill their MP with 100% reliability.

Please tell me that you're joking.

Edited, Jan 28th 2010 10:22am by redvenomweb

Wow man, it's like you read my mind. I've been telling friends for over a year that COR should have an ability opposite of Pianissimo, where a Corsair can excuse himself from the results.

I never thought of putting the name 'Hold' to it, though. I realy like that!

Just some random card game terms I thought might work for COR JA's.

"Bluff"
COR. Lv. 50
10:00m recast
Uses a Double-Up value(in other words, recast is used/animation goes but nothing happens) and applies it to the following Phantom Roll or Double-Up attempt. (doesn't work with 2hr)

ie. You hit a 4 on Chaos. Use Bluff/Double-Up and get a 5. Now you know what you'll want to save that 5, rather than double-up and use it on a lucky Evokers or Wizards, or if you get a 5 and double-up and get a 6, then you know you'll want to double-up, rather than hold it.

"Up Card"
COR. Lv. 70
3:00m recast
Takes the current Phantom Roll/Double-up value(even if a Bluff effect) and stores it as a charge. (Max 3 charges) Will not erase a Bust.

"Double Down"
COR. Lv. 70
6:00m recast
Takes all "Burn Card" charges and applies it to the next Phantom Roll effect. (doesn't work with 2hr) You may not double-up on this Phantom Roll.

"Low Ball"
COR. Lv. 60
10:00m recast
Swaps current phantom roll lucky values. (Eg. Chaos Roll would be now be Lucky 8 Unlucky 4 "11" would now be 1 and "1" would be 11. All other values in between would be swapped.

"Stiff"
COR. Lv. 40
10:00m recast
Shortens Phantom Roll recast for 3 minutes.

Other than that, I agree with "Hold" or "Hit me". Just wanna throw another possible name for it out there: "Stand", since COR seems to deal more with blackjack. If nothing else I would love to see a COR pianissimo.

PIRATE TERMS! (fighting JA's)

Defensive stances (same timer/overwritten by Hail Shot or Swashbuckle)

"Parley"
COR. Lv. 45
5:00m recast
Increases Parrying rate for a reduction in atk power. (Parry proc + atk/r.atk -)

"No Quarter"
COR. Lv. 45
5:00m recast
Increases Evasion rate for a reduction in acc. (Evasion +/acc/r.acc down)

Offensive stances (same timer and overwritten by Parley or No Quarter)

"Case Shot"
COR. Lv. 65
5:00m recast
Increase ranged attack power/speed in exchange for a reduction in melee atk/speed. (very similar to velocity shot, just not as powerful)

"Swashbuckler"
COR. Lv. 65
Increase melee attack power/speed in exchange for a reduction in ranged atk/speed. (opposite stance of hail shot)

Make every roll have an individual 1 minute recast. Having them all share a recast is stupid. It also makes a COR Pianissimo, or Hold worthless, since you still must wait a minute between rolls, and thus wouldn't have time to use the COR Pianissimo in the first place. Plus it'd help COR's damage/pulling/healing ability, since you could put up all 3-5 buffs at once, then do whatever you want for 4 minutes. Like BRD has always been able to do.

Warrior's Roll: Increases max HP.
Templar's Roll: Increases Counter rate.
Assassin's Roll: Increases critical hit damage.
Cleric's Roll: Increases cure/waltz potency.
Sorcerer's Roll: Increases magic critical hit damage.
Duelist's Roll: Increases Fast Cast value.
Valor Roll: Reduces damage taken.
Abyss Roll: Increases enmity accumulation rate.
Monster Roll: Reduces damage taken by pets.
Scout's Roll: Increases ranged attack rate.
Bard's Roll: Lowers enmity accumulation rate.
Summoner's Roll: I am positive BRD will be getting more tiers of Ballad, so let's make this another Refresh roll to keep up with BRD.
Koga Roll: Haste!!!
Saotome Roll: Grants Regain.
Wyrm Roll: Grants Regen to pets.
Mirage Roll: Increases max MP.
Commodore Roll: Increases base stats (STR, DEX, etc).
Pantin Roll: Grants Regain to pets.
Etoile Roll: Regen, same reasoning as Summoner's Roll.
Argute Roll: Increases magic critical hit rate.

And even if we do get a second tier of rolls, hopefully SE will be kind enough to have them drop off mobs instead of sold for 100k+ from NPCs... /dream.

Edited, Apr 25th 2010 7:07pm by Seitekifu

I'd be happy with recycle and better, cheaper ammo.

They could also make hexaguns more useful with powerful hexagun only abilities like maybe our own little barrage or further reduced delay with hexaguns or something. I rarely see a cor with a hexagun who isn't subbing white mage and equipping level 22 bullets.

Splitting up things is very important, and something SE has completely missed. BP:Rage and BP:Ward are two other things that needs splitting, because you sure as hell can't work with your cure and dispel sharing the same timer. (At least DNC only has to wait like 17 seconds between cure and erase)

Thing is though, that COR rolls last 5 min BECAUSE they take 1 min to roll. (SMN wards AFTER 2004 also lasts 5 min BECAUSE they take 1 min to recast... wards before 2003 are just ignored and broken aka 'solved with summoning magic'). Most likely if you want BRD recast, you'll get BRD durations (like 2 min?) and it won't necessarily give you more spare time.

If you ask me though... every single buff should last 15 min in this game. No reason only protect and shell and earthen ward (which has max hits) or aerial armor (which has max shadows) should last 15 min. With 15 min durations, who would need shorter recasts? Just toss up those 4 rolls during 4 min and spend your other 11 min DDing.


PS. If I could ask for just one JA for COR, it would be one that made the roll bonus work on pets and vice versa (assuming you for some reason lack DRK but have a BST and want attack bonus for whole party). It is the only thing I think COR is missing.

I think COR buffs last 5 minutes because they sometimes take 45 seconds to cast even if there wasn't a recast. How many times do you have to double up 5-6 times because you keep getting 1's and 2's? Or when some @#%^ moved out of range? (especially when the BRD starts bitching that he isn't getting full COR's roll) And since BRD buffs last 3 minutes with 8 second cast times (shortened by fast cast) I see no problem with 5 minute duration rolls when they might take 45 seconds to roll.

I hear that. Though protect and shell last 30 minutes, not 15. Unless you're casting protect IV on a level 30 or something.

I'd rather have "Quick Draw: Occasionally shoots 2-6 times" along with the current damage ratings. I don't want to weaken slug shot too much.



Or even better, be able to choose someone to put "hold" on so you can also roll DD buffs while your mage is up front casting accession-something-or-other.

Who cares if it weakens slug shot. You'd slugshot, then pull the trigger 1-2 times, then slugshot again. Would cost an arm, a leg, and a kidney, but there'd finally be a job that actually shoots guns. (COR only uses guns for quickdraw and slugshot, then melees for everything else. RNG only uses the relic gun+ melees for tp with kraken club. If the RNG doesn't have those 2 it just uses bows)

EDIT: oops, entirely missed the point. Everything that has multihits has to have crappy damage. Even the virtue weapons have comparatively lower damage than the alternatives. And the more hits it gets the weaker it gets, just look at merc kris and k club. Don't cut the damage and a rich COR will become the best DD in the game.

Edited, May 1st 2010 2:18am by louispv

Mark
Recast [5 seconds]
Duration [2 hours]
Marks Target Party Member to receive next 2 rolls and ignore other rolls.

Mark [II]
Recast [5 seconds]
Duration [2 hours]
Marks Target Party Member to receive next 2 rolls and ignore other rolls.

Mark [III]
Recast [5 seconds]
Duration [2 hours]
Marks Target Party Member to receive next 2 rolls and ignore other rolls.


Yes I realize these 3 essentially do the same thing but you would only have to position yourself once to get the proper rolls, after which you wouldn't need to position at all (IE: Just fire off rolls with luzaf's on). Reason why I think 3 would be good is you can separate rolls into 3 groups: Pet rolls, mage rolls, Melee rolls. If you wanna get real technical, a 4th could be defense rolls (gallant, magus rolls I guess, its 4AM and I'm dropping here!)

Example Usage:
Beginning of merit party:

Fire Mark [I] on mage, and Mark [2] on melee and yourself. Fire off mage rolls in mage vicinity, then melee rolls. Now you're set for 2 hours being able to roll mage/melee rolls without losing your melee rolls thanks to being marked.

SE would also have to add in a 3rd slot to rolls where the effect is not given to the corsair rolling under the effect of a mark, but just provides a status effect saying yea you've rolled this roll and this can double up.
So say you have chaos roll on, and hit samurai roll. The corsair and melee will both get samurai roll, meaning now corsair has chaos and samurai roll on. The corsair, however, will also receive a 3rd "roll" simply called "Phantom Roll" which is the current roll and its count. This 3rd "roll simply acts as a double up agent, allowing the corsair to be able to use mage rolls without losing their own current buff, whilst providing zero benefits in terms of buff to the corsair, and simply wears after 1 minute.
</end 4am rambling, apologies in advance>



[i]Edited, May 1st 2010 7:04am by dasquall

Seen several nice ideas in here, a few I'd love to see.

Most important adjustment I want for COR though is this: HIGHER BASE DAMAGE BULLET FOR QUICK DRAW!
Simple adjustment: Add COR to Hightail Bullet.
Make it happen Squenix.

If you'd listed the Assassins roll as a movement speed roll rather than a critical ht roll, then I'd give you a prize. 1/2 only gets you a one thumb up boobie prize.

10 dollars. But since you bought 20 1 dollar tickets, you still owe us 9 bucks. We take cash, check, credit cards, and rate ups.