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Also. Might want to check trials for ele guns out. They have changed, and its not that bad.

Instead of the 200 apkullus just 200 manticoes.

Then 200 amporth > 250 opo > haha and only 300 bird type to get Mayhem +1 under fire. Which is:

Dmg 48
Str8 rng atk+18

Ice Upgrade.

Dmg48
Int8 Matk+9

Obviously Emp.Gun is the awesome. But I dont play LS friendly much so I'm glad the requirments of most have adjusted. Theres no reason to kill 200 Apakulls(sp)...just NONE

I think SE is starting to actually take our dd seriously. We're stepping up from a sort of gambler with a gun to some sort of Gun mage. With the WS that are ele based, enhancing the hell out of Quickdraw, I could actually go full QD, get tp, leaden salute and quick draw my life away.

I do hope that have something in the works for solutions to our melee ablities. We have them, and joyuse and m.kris and other dagger options are getting lower and lower in level.

Honestly, no matter what they do...its still going to be weaker bullets. If they just gave us the higher bullets, I would have been happy.

But no complaints here. I DO want some kinda quickdraw boost, I dont like other jobs getting it anyway, but we need something to set us apart.

The writing is definitely on the wall. A year ago whenever you heard the always present "Kris vs, Joytoy" debates it usually came down to people agreeing to disagree and acknowledging they are close. But with guns and bullets that add 25% to WS damage people are still saying "they are close". Well, if they were close before then they are not now. High damage guns have skewed results in favor of the setup that grants more WS. If they are even now it means they weren't even before.


The reason I say all this is because it is evident that Joyeuse is going to die for Cor. It may be this update. It may be next. It may be the one after. But eventually as guns get more powerful and new bullets get added a melee weapon that doesn't get better will be left behind. The only chance at the playstyle many COR has become accustomed to remaining an option is for a new multi hit melee weapon to be released that is Cor equippable. Could it happen? Sure. Will it? I just don't know.

Pretty much yea, I was VERY disappointed SE didn't have anything in mind in regards to cheaper ammo, I think we've been complaining for it long enough. ugh

So aside from the guns and armor, has anyone found the new dice yet? I just checked the typical NPCs and they have no new items. I'm also seeing several of each appearing on the AH.

a) You might indeed outparse other DDs at 75-80 or "merits" (also, does this mean piercing weak Colibri, tailor made for COR?) with the typical "melee for TP/get as many WS as possible" style. But I'm looking more at the future (which is sort of arriving now). Do you really think that style of COR play is going to continue to compete with other DD jobs when they're getting the whopping boosts we're seeing on stuff like AF3 and magian weapons, and COR's gear improvements seem to be focusing a lot on other aspects like QD? I'd assume not, unless you shift your style to take more advantage of the kind of stuff COR is getting now.

b) You're probably better than the vast majority of CORs (and probably comparatively better at your job than many other DDs are at theirs). The average or slightly above average COR does not usually outparse other DDs of comparable quality skill/gear. Nothing wrong with that either, we have buffs to contribute. But S-E doesn't really seem to balance the game based on considering the elite geared/skilled players' abilities, it's more of looking at how the somewhat dedicated but not quite "uber" player really does play. If they did pay attention to the best of the best players, there's no way in hell they would have buffed something like PUP as much as they have in 2010 (seeing as how a good PUP could already demolish a parse prior to those boosts).

Then again, maybe there's something to the thought that the "merit" mentality we've all been in is gone anyway with new content. You might be mostly in QD/roll situations for most new content like Abyssea NMs or whatever else there is. Still, seems to me like other new content like Abyssea alliance exp parties at least work the same way as merits for gearing/style choices - you're buffing and either pulling or DDing as your secondary role. If it's DDing, the question becomes whether the same styles that worked for a 75COR will remain as viable for DD contribution.

Just trying to think things through... perhaps there's no change, but I'm not just assuming that what ended up being largely settled on as an effective COR style at 75cap merits will continue to be as effective in 85cap and beyond.



Chichiroon in Nashmau, same NPC as Bolter's/Caster's. 97,350 for Courser's, 100,650 for Blitzer's.

You probably just checked Jajaroon, the other Nashmau dice Qiqirn.

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 8:18pm by Anza

Thanks Anza!

can't believe I forgot to check the same NPC I got my other rolls from -.-;

So, with QD providing TP, and the need for more stat boosting non-gun weaponry, does this mean that the Vulcan Staff is our new end all be all weapon for shooting/QD? I've been using vulcan/axe grip for a while now in those "used to be" rare shoot only situations. Now it seems like the +r.atk and +QD dmg are nice to have on a single piece for that slot.

I dont think you guys are playing aggressively enough. Ive parsed on a lot of abyssea mobs and merit mobs and I parse 1 or 2 generally always.

Riding Berserk out the full duration, spamming QD every 45 seconds, stepping away to sweet spot to WS, engaging quickly, and keep up 2 DD rolls at all times (mages rolls are needed in abyssea these days). My gear is not anything special outside of my Racc+8 martial.

While other Jobs are getting lots of boosts, the main populous still doesnt know how to gear correctly. I see a lot of well geared players still useing stupid thigns like str rings for TP or not useing W turban, or not useing Dusk hands over Aurore.

I was looking over the AF3+2 more closely and compared it to my AF+1/relic gears. Look at them and let me know if you agree with my assessment. I don't have Skadi legs, but I tossed it in there for completion of legs choices.


Corsair's Tricorne +1
[Head] All Races
DEF: 23 HP +13 STR +4 AGI +4
Ranged Accuracy +9
Enchances "Quick Draw" effect

vs

Nacvarch's Tricorne +2
Head
DEF:35 AGI+10 Ranged Acc+16
Rapid SHot +10
Enhances "Blitzer's Roll" Effect


Obviously the enhancement for "Blitzer's roll" is a macro swap. That being said, AF+1 would do more damage on QD and for Slug shot. Now if you're shooting for TP, AF3 begins to shine.


Corsair's Bottes +1
[Feet] All Races
DEF: 12 HP +15 STR +5 AGI +5
Ranged Accuracy +4
Accuracy +4

vs


Navarch's Bottes+2
Def:22 AGI+13 Magic Acc+10
Enhances Quick Draw effect
Enhances Courser's Roll Effect

Set Bonus: Augments Quick Draw

The ultimate boots for QD. However, AF+1 is a better choice for Slug shot and most WS's. Good macro swap for "Courser's roll".



Commodore culottes +1
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 31 HP +22 STR +3 AGI +3
Attack +7 Evasion +7
Lv. 75 COR

vs

Skadi's Chausses
DEF: 28 Accuracy +4 Attack +5
Ranged Accuracy +4 Ranged Attack +5
"Store TP" +7
Haste +2%
Set: Increases rate of critical hits

vs

Nacarch's Culottes +2
Legs
Def:47 DEX+8 AGI+8 StoreTP+8
Enhances Snapshot Effect
Enhances Caster's Roll Effect

Relic legs seem to only be good for WS. AF3 has +4RACC same as Skadi plus Store TP +1 in addition to the Snapshot upgrade. Aurore legs is a far better TP piece if we're meleeing for TP. AF3 is a good macro swap for "Caster's roll".


I have 7 jobs lv75+ that I was looking at in terms of AF3. Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel beyond closer examination that we got those "broken" pieces most of the other jobs received. Any thoughts on this.

AF3 helm is for ranged shots only and roll macro. MKE head still wins with proper augments.

AF3 boots are a QD leaden salute peice only.

AF3 legs are a total waist. Dusk, Aurore, ASA all beat these out. Only reason would be the caster's roll upgrade.