EvIsceration VS slugFollow

Leaden Salute is by far my favourite Abyssea WS on COR.
Sub RDM, use a MaB set for WS, keep chugging Asetic's Tonics and you'll be hammering targets for 3000+.

My set for it is...
Lv90 COR/RDM
Pluto's Staff
Reaver's Grip
Miramar Gun (Bedlam+1 in the works)
Bullets
Navarch Tricorne+1
Navarch Frac+1
Trigger Gloves
Denali Kecks
Navarch Bottes+1
Forban Cape
Aqualine Belt
Hecates Earring
Moldavite Earring
Breeze Ring
Breeze Ring
Navarch's Choker

Atma of the Cosmos (HIGHLY recommend this as it's a static +30% to Leaden Salute)
Atma of the Beyond (I use Ice Shot pretty much exclusively)
Atma of the Razed Ruins/Ultimate (Really depends if i'm in EXP or not, if i am then Razed adds some kick to my gunshots, if i know i'm there purely for Quick Draw and Leaden Salute i use Ultimate)

Yeah Evi is a pretty strong WS in abyssea, while Slug shot pretty gimp IMO(not affected by crit-hit/DA etc).
I think /DNC and mainhand twilight knife+offhand joytoy can be pretty good for both dmg and support. Although I still need to build my gear set and get that knife for it and see how it works:<

Should replace Dessultors with acc and haste with Aurore legs IMO, and get PR recast -5/MAB+4 augment on Dessultors.
Since augmenting Dessultors with haste and acc is kinda a waste now. Although AF3+2 legs is probably better for QD if you have other +2 pieces, MAB+4 still useful when you brew and have 999 AGI for magical WS.

For Slugshot, I suggest use Crudelis Belt instead. You may cap fSTR in abyssea depending on your atma, so adding anymore STR won't be much use. Not to mention Crudelis belt has enmity -, same amount of STR and 5 more AGI.











Just curious, if you're in EXP pt, wouldn't it be a bit too slow to get TP if you shoot with a Pluto's staff? Since all mobs literally dies in 3 sec.



Also I have a question about Leaden Salute that I never understand >.>
Are there some kind of magic resist for this WS? Compare with other elemental WS I used on other jobs, this WS dmg is not consistent at all. Sometimes it just dropped super low. I brewed Shinryu the other day, with /RDM, lucky #5 wizards (don' t know if hat proc or not) +Asetic's, about half of my WS dmg are only 6kish, only a few reached 10k+, and every WS at wrong time healed it 20k >.> My gear set is pretty similar to yours except a few differences.

Dark Staff(don't know if upgrade it to HQ is worth the gil, so never bother...yet)
Veuglaire + bronze bullet
Navarch Tricorne+1 (probably doesn't matter when AGI capped at 999, same applied to other AGI gears)
ACP body
Schutzen Mittens
ASA pants with MAB+4
Navarch Bottes+1
Forban Cape
Aqualine Belt
Moldavite Earring
Solemn Ring
Breeze Ring
Navarch's Choker

And no Hecates earring, used Atma of Ultimate. (Totally forgot about Atma of Cosmos since I was in a hurry to the BC before blunt proc time over)
Do I need to add more macc or something? Cuz I shouldn't get resist when I cap all stats at 999 no?

I've been thinking about evisceration recently and will try it out next time I'm in an Aby xp party on COR.

My gear would include:
Yataghan augmented with +7dmg and +4 crit %
M Kris offhand
WS anwig
peacock charm
nothing in earring slots of note (hope to get hollow soon)
CU Harness
Aurore hands
rajas
woodsman
Amemet+1
Crudelis belt
Aurore legs
AF+1 Feet

So mostly an accuracy setup with a bit of STR (25).

I really don't have a good melee WS setup since my Mains are COR, RNG and RDM. But with RR/VV this should be a fun go /DNC

But for bigger stuff I'm still a fan of /RDM Leaden/QD builds with Ultimate/Beyond Atma. Finally have my setup getting 750-800 QD's against T1 NM's.

I dont think sanguine blade can be resisted like leaden salute can, could be horribly wrong on that.

What's better melee weapon combo for /DNC Evi spam (RR/VV)?

D42 Yataghan mainhand + Twilight knife offhand?
Or Twilight knife mainhand + Joytoy offhand?
Or D42 Yataghan mainhand+ joytoy offhand?

I think Yataghan hits harder for WS but Twilight knife and Joytoy TP faster? And Joytoy TP faster than Twilight knife?

I wouldnt switch out sword just yet, on NMS your mkris will likely hit for zero (probably not in abyssea). Also it really doesnt
Matter that much what your mainhanding with a multi hit weapon due to how the fact now that we can get almost capped haste on cor and all the double and triple attack available.

I'd hate to be in your LS.

Killing with nukes and Med WS DDs was a Tipoff. I've seen a group do that and was disgusted by how slow they killed.

If hes only useing nukes and ws from dds who are sitting out then double to triple the time. My low man group did a mage only set up for a long time and its a hell of a lot slower then just straight tanking and tossing some dds on it.

While haveing a ton of dds on something isnt good haveing 2-3 isnt any big deal. Relying on magic damage for a kill is just to slow and drawn out even with correct atmas.

Its about 1/3 my joytoy damage but it hits faster and more often and gets me TP quicker. I'm not sure with RR/VV that the formula changes that much to favor higher damage weapons unless you don't have a good high damage crit WS. Then most of your damage is from melee swings.

But you may be right and Yhataghan/Twilight might turn out to be a better combo for an RR/VV Evis setup. Sadly I don't have the math skills to calculate the difference.

Yeah if your using Evisceration, it doesn'tseem right to be using Slug setup weapons.

Another low-delay decent dmg dagger to accompany Twightlight main will certainly be the best option. Neisan is correct in what hes saying about VV/Apoc all negating Mkris's 2-3x. Also, a higher dmg offhand will also increase Eviceration by a little bit.

You'd have 4% Quad attack, 5% Double, 15% Triple using Twighlight and appropriate atmais, even more /war. I certainly wouldn't use VV with Kris anyway.

Yes that seems pretty likely given our options to date.
Interestingly I was skulking up in an any party yesterday and even with MKris mainhand and joy toy offhand I was hitting 800-1.2k Eviscerations, whereas with yhataghan with 42 dmg, 4% crit rate, i was averaging 1.1. - 2k. Not as big a difference as I expected.

Exactly. And for weakness proc alone, the less people on the mob the better even if only due to less TP given to the mob = less TP moves to cause a botched WS attempt and require a retry. Once all the needed !!! proc have been found, killing the NM very quickly isn't much of an issue for most groups on most NMs.

Can I ask what you're wearing? Cause I'm having trouble hitting past 900 with evisceration, and from the tp return, I doubt it's an accuracy issue.

Its more the atma than anything else. I have RR/VV on when I dual wield dagger and use evisceration. That gives crit bonus and crit damage bonus and Dex for accuracy as well as STR bonus.

My Evisceration Gear setup is pretty sad actually since I've always concentrated on a Ranged WS build. I basically remove haste items from my melee TP set and sub in STR/attack/dex/acc in that order.

So besides Atheling, what's a good Evisceration back piece?

I just picked up a Nifty Mantle (DEX+5 Atk+9) for dirt cheap - think it beats Forager's? Seeing as how Evisceration's only mod is DEX (30%), seemed like a reasonable possibility. Dunno if that makes up for a decent chance of fSTR+1 from the STR+3 on Forager's (and the extra attack, but mainly the fSTR mod) though...

fstr is generally capped in abyssea, so dex and attack. Nifty Mantle works pretty good.

Im sure there is an atma but Slug just dosnt stand up, especially if your not pulling back form your target to WS. The point of useing evisceration is because its quicker mor constant the slug.

That being said, Aeolian Edge can be boosted to 2k+ easy with Gales/RR/Beyond, but it is AOE.

So it's either just level correction (Cor 84) or do buffalos resist piercing? Cause I've got Stout arm/voracious violet/ razed ruin, and passable ws gear.

Its probably the Buffalo. My post was based on xp on spiders which are pretty squishy.

Afania,
That is very respectable damage considering my +1 empyrean Thief averages about 1.7K solo evis.