Cor update: Phantom Roll changes and enhancementsFollow

Howdy!

It’s been quite some time since we announced that we would be revamping corsair’s Phantom Roll effects, but I have some additional information about the planned changes.

※Currently these features are in-development and testing and are subject to change.
　

Phantom Roll Effect Changes

Healer's roll received cure pot+ 
Roll Value Effect Value 
One 	5% 
Two 	6% 
Three 	15% 
Four 	7% 
Five 	8% 
Six 	+9% 
Seven 	+2% 
Eight 	10% 
Nine 	11% 
Ten 	+12% 
11 	20% 
Bust 	-5% 
Bonus 	5% 
 
Gallant's roll dt- 
Roll Value Effect Value 
One 	-6 
Two 	-8 
Three 	-24 
Four 	-9 
Five 	-11 
Six 	-12 
Seven 	-3 
Eight 	-15 
Nine 	-17 
Ten 	-18 
11 	-30 
Bust 	+5 
Bonus 	-5 
 
Phantom Roll Effect Value Adjustments  
 
Warlocks Roll 
Roll Value Old Effect Value New Effect Value 
One 	+2 	+2 
Two 	+3 	+3 
Three 	+4 	+4 
Four 	+10 	+12 
Five 	+4 	+5 
Six 	+5 	+6 
Seven 	+6 	+7 
Eight 	+1 	+1 
Nine 	+7 	+8 
Ten 	+7 	+9 
11 	+12 	+15 
Bust 	-4 	-5 
Bonus 	+4 	+5 
 
Beasts Roll: 
Roll Value Old Effect Value New Effect Value 
One 	+12 	+16 
Two 	+15 	+20 
Three 	+18 	+24 
Four 	+48 	+64 
Five 	+21 	+28 
Six 	+24 	+32 
Seven 	+30 	40 
Eight 	+6 	+8 
Nine 	+33 	+44 
Ten 	+36 	+48 
11 	60 	80 
Bust 	-20 	-25 
Bonus 	+20 	25 
 
Coral Roll 
Roll Value Old Effect Value New Effect Value 
One 	-11 	-13 
Two 	-43 	-55 
Three 	-14 	-17 
Four 	-16 	-20 
Five 	-19 	-25 
Six 	-5 	-8 
Seven 	-22 	-30 
Eight 	-27 	-35 
Nine 	-30 	-40 
Ten 	-32 	-45 
11 	-54 	-65 
Bust 	+20 	25 
Bonus 	-20 	-25 
 
Drachen Roll 
Roll Value Old Effect Value New Effect Value 
One 	+4 	+4 
Two 	+5 	+5 
Three 	+14 	+18 
Four 	+5 	+7 
Five 	+6 	+9 
Six 	+7 	+10 
Seven 	+2 	+2 
Eight 	+9 	+11 
Nine 	+10 	+13 
Ten 	+11 	+15 
11 	+18 	+22 
Bust 	-6 	-8 
Bonus 	+6 	+8 
 
Dancer roll 
Roll Value Old Effect Value New Effect Value 
One 	+3 	+3 
Two 	+4 	+4 
Three 	+11 	+12 
Four 	+4 	+5 
Five 	+5 	+6 
Six 	+6 	+7 
Seven 	+1 	+1 
Eight 	+7 	+8 
Nine 	+8 	+9 
Ten 	+8 	+10 
11 	+14 	+16 
Bust 	-3 	-4 
Bonus 	+3 	+4

※We are making adjustments to make the amounts larger for high numbers and lucky numbers.
※We are also planning on increasing the bonus associated with having a Roll's main job in the party.


As long as there are no major development/testing problems, we are planning to introduce these changes on the test server middle or late January.

As usual, please let us know your feedback!

Was thinking Pal roll would be a bit too strong as DT-%, but if they made it PDT-% and Magus as MDT-% (much stronger than MDB), then that would bump both. Adding just 1 tic refresh to evokers would prob do the trick (or scale up as you level, so its not overpowered at earlier levels).

Evokers doesn't make a difference at this point of time.....current events(where you'd bring a mage) is either 75 cap and too easy to need evokers, in Abby with atma, or in VW with temps/atmacite that refresh doesn't matter.

I'm not sure about you guys, but in Voidwatch I'm always in the DD party (moar TP = moar procs!), and I'm perfectly content with not having to do any mage rolls for our healer.

Edited, Dec 31st 2011 2:00am by Chewzer

I usually get put in some sort of idiot mixed party that doesn't know how to make the most of their support. Last VW I was in a party with the main healer, WHM, the main tank, PLD. Then they had a ranger, warrior and red mage in that party. Oh and everyone stood apart. Significantly.

Healer Roll is not Cure Potency%, it will be increasing potency of cures received." Probably still not a roll that can be used in most situations, but it will probably has some scenarios that it can be used.

Which means that its useless. There are probably more whms in the game then ever now, coupled with the fact that gear is easy to get means this roll is junk. I would honestly rather have hmp back.

Greetings all

I have some additional info on corsair adjustments based on some questions from the Japanese forum to share with you all.


In order to allow for better use of the job bonuses, we are currently looking into swapping the stats on Drachen Roll and Puppet Roll. We are making preparations so that this can be implemented onto the test server along with the other roll adjustments.

[Pre-adjustment]
Drachen Roll: Enhances pet magic attack and magic accuracy
Puppet Roll: Enhances pet accuracy

[Post-adjustment]
Drachen Roll: Enhances pet accuracy
Puppet Roll: Enhances pet magic attack and magic accuracy


The effect of Blitzer’s Roll is the same as Martial Arts as it reduces the attack duration, so the amount of TP gained is affected. We do not plan on changing the effect to make it similar to Haste/March as these spells have an influence on magic.


In regards to single target rolls, I will address this and the concept of corsair as a set.

Corsairs have the ability to support party members with their rolls similar to bards; however, while bards spend most of their time during battle supporting party members with songs, corsairs don’t spend the same amount of time on support and were made to have a surplus of time so they can attack. This is why the effect duration and recast time on rolls have been set to be longer than songs.

While it is definitely possible to look into single target effects in order to effectively use rolls, the functionality of corsair would most likely be largely changed due to the increased frequency of roll usage, so we would like to continue to look into this while carefully considering whether it is really appropriate for the corsair style that we envisioned.


Unfortunately the effect from Healer’s Roll will not enhance the potency of waltzes.
While they are similar effects, the stats are separate and this is the roll for white mages.

[Post-adjustment]
Drachen Roll: Enhances pet accuracy
Puppet Roll: Enhances pet magic attack and magic accuracy

The effect of Blitzer’s Roll is the same as Martial Arts as it reduces the attack duration, so the amount of TP gained is affected. We do not plan on changing the effect to make it similar to Haste/March as these spells have an influence on magic.

Unfortunately the effect from Healer’s Roll will not enhance the potency of waltzes.
While they are similar effects, the stats are separate and this is the roll for white mages.