Is COR your only job? Do you expect everyone else who levels COR to not level anything else? Do you expect that those that do level other jobs not spend any money on those jobs? Opportunity costs, my friend. Doing 1% more damage in temp zerg Voidwatch fights may be, in your opinion, a good expenditure of resources, but I'm pretty sure there are those that would disagree, especially when they could spend an equal amount of cruor>gil and buy something that would increase another job's performance by more than 1%.
Lol this post made me laugh, 1% increase in performance, seriously?
Atmacite of Slayer is fire elemental attack+15 plus 10+ AGI
Atmacite of destruction is MAB+15
Atmacite of corecion is AGI+5 and regain
Now that's compare a COR/BLM with temp but no atmacite, v.s COR/BLM with temp and upgraded those above 3 atmacite, using my current set here: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/202185.
Buffs are firestorm+No.5 wizards roll, enemy has 100 INT. Replace belt with Obi for firestorm.
COR/BLM with just gears has 213 AGI 56 MAB total if it's hume with Obi. Add Braver+15 AGI, Food+5 AGI, Ascetics:+25 MAB No.5 wizards:+10 MAB
[floor(5.5 * (Lv + 2 + floor(.85 * floor(AGI * .6))))] + [2 * (Your AGI-Enemy INT)] * mab * staff bonus * day/weather bonuses
COR/BLM dmg without atmacite:
233 AGI, 91 MAB total.
COR/BLM dmg with those above 3 atmacite:
248 AGI, 106 MAB total.
Your WF dmg jump from 3874 to 5074 with atmacite, last time I checked, that's over 30% increase, not 1%. I did not even calculate WS frequency and QD dmg increase. Stop giving misleading info that upgrade atmacite only gives 1% increase. But apparently your LS is too pimp to even care about a buff/mule job's dmg output in VW.
Now that's calculate gil value for those atmacite.
3,900,000 cruor total
Cruor:gil ratio is 1:2.17 I think?
8.463M worth of cruor.
8.463M is only like, less than 10% cost of your precious relic, and it gave over 30%(probably even 40% if you count QD dmg and WS frequency increase) dmg boost in VW. Can you please name me all relic(not Mythic, if you want to build Mythic which costs 600M you may as well ignore mere 8M in cruor), or even gears, that has 30%~40% dmg boost over cheaper alternatives? Does using Rag 95 over Ig-Alima GS or magian GS make your reso jump from 3.8k to 5k? Does using Amano over lv90 Masa or TP Bonus GK make your Shoha jump from 3.8k to 5k? Which relic exactly, makes bigger difference than atmacite for COR?
8M for 30%~40% dmg boost, that's one of the best effort/reward ratio in this game, stop giving misleading info.
Now that's onto the topic of whether it's win or wipe in VW. I'm pretty sure a B.rex pt or Bismarck pt, 4 WF COR with full atmacite v.s no atmacite, there will be a huge difference in killing speed. And killing speed directly affects the efficiency, win rate(the slower you kill,the easier to wipe), and how enjoyable it is for that run. Once I joined a JP Bismarck run(I wasn't on COR), they wiped 3 times, took total of 1hr 40 min for 6 pops. Another Bismarck pt I made, 6x pop took 37min to kill(I was on COR for this one, a job that you don't think dmg is important, and parsed over 20%). Now tell me, which pt you'd want to join? 1hr 40 min pt or 37min pt?
If you'd rather join bad pt that kill slow, or not willing to contribute dmg in a pt for 1/10 of your precious relic fund, then it's your call, but don't whine if others call you gimp and give misleading info.
It's your own business if you think your LS is pimp and doesn't need atmacite, and it's your own business that if you don't plan to do a lot of VW and don't want to spend 8.4M on atmacite. But that kind of attitude(Atmacite not worth upgrading) is exactly the reason why nearly every PUG COR I pt with doesn't parse high, roll and gtfo, further giving the impression that COR dmg isn't important in VW. I can give you all the parse, to prove that COR with atmacite contributes in pt much greater than COR without, especially on B.rex/Bismarck/Provenance KI BC x3 fight.
Do relic all you want if you don't like this job and don't plan to play it well, but leave those who care about the job and want to improve their job's performance a chance to improve, ty. If anyone plan to do VW for considerable amount of time or still need some gears in VW, atmacite is very good investment. Edited, Jul 25th 2012 10:42pm by Afania Edited, Jul 25th 2012 10:53pm by Afania