Seriously, stop giving false info regarding reward/effort ratio and priority, and stop giving false info regarding optimal SJ.
/RDM, for one, gives MAB3 same as BLM, and comes with some genuinely useful support magic compared to /BLM. /BLU results in more damage than both, and as you said, /SCH trumps all if you don't have somebody Firestorming you religiously. Sounds kinda inferior to me~
As for false info, you're simply not taking into account the fact that even with that kind of damage boost, the NM dies, what, a few seconds earlier than it would without? Yeah. If you are the only DD then yes, it results in a 30% or whatever increase to output, and a like reduction in killspeed. But, since you are but one of many DDs, and the NM has a finite amount of HP, well, the amount of damage that 30% translates into is much less impressive. Assuming you're not in one of these fail PUGs you keep mentioning, it will be paltry indeed. An Atmacited COR in one of those fail PUGs does not equate success, or even a better chance at success; it results in a dead COR who deals zero damage. Conversely, an Atmacited COR in a non-fail group, PUG or otherwise, is just speeding up an already fast kill by a paltry amount.
If you think that's worth the gil, fine, but don't accuse me of spreading misinformation simply because you disagree with my reasoning.
I mean, this?
But don't come up to the forum and tell everyone else that atmacite doesn't make a difference, that's wrong info.
Of course it makes a difference; nobody is arguing that it doesn't. What is being argued is that the difference on the macro level is negligible-to-nonexistent. You can disagree all you want, but it doesn't make this any less true.
Edited, Jul 26th 2012 1:38am by LyltiaofLakshmi
/BLM has higher AGI than /RDM and same tier of MAB, thus making it superior than /RDM in terms of pure dmg output. It's ok if you want to /RDM, there are no deny that /RDM has more defensive/support ability, but it does not out dmg /BLM, and lack of support/defensive ability doesn't make /BLM "inferior" in VW with temps to stay alive. If saying /BLM is "inferior" is not wrong info, than what is right info?
How does COR with atmacite will result dead COR who deal zero damage, when you just proc, zerg, pop fana, proc? But fine, say if a successful ally with 2 COR doing 30% more dmg is less make or break in a pimp pt with super elite DD, you still didn't reply which relic exactly, is more make or break than 30% more dmg you can deal.
I can argue that upgrading Masa 90/TP bonus GK to Amano 95 is less make or break in terms of total pt dmg output and you can still kill fast enough with just Masa 90/TP bonus GK. I can argue that upgrading Magian GS or Ig-alima GS to Rag 95 or Apoc, you don't have more dmg increase than COR with atmacite. None of the relic in this game is truely make or break, nor they do 30% more dmg in an endgame event over cheaper alternatives. The Aegis that showed in your signature, I've done and every event, legion, every VW especially the one with adds, Odin 2, with Ochain PLD without aegis and they still got the job done, thus that's also a relic not make or break in term of success.(No offense and not trying to devalue your relic, just stating fact that anything that needs a PLD Ochain can get the job done, not counting efficiency)
The original OP asked which atmacite to upgrade so he can deal more dmg in VW on COR, pointed out that he wants to do more dmg in VW on COR, entire ally's performance isn't relevant in such discussion. Then suddenly everyone pop out, telling him it's not worth it and better to spend on relic because you can win every VW without atmacite, without providing which relic exactly is required to do any event and make or break either. You can tell everyone that 30% dmg increase on COR is not a lot in entire ally, but you can't deny the fact that majority of other gear, including relic that everyone loves, also doesn't boost your performance as much, and often cost more. You build relic so your NM dies a few sec faster too no? So what's the difference between spending 10M on atmacite so NM dies few sec faster, or spend 110M on relic so NM die a few sec faster too?
Inb4 110M so NM dies few sec faster in legion+VW instead of just VW. They're not much different if you still do VW regularly.
You think that's subjective thing, but I think it's misleading if you tell everyone that spending 110M so NM dies few sec faster on DRK in legion+VW makes bigger difference than spending 10M so NM dies few sec faster on COR in VW. You're making it sound like relic is bigger improvement than atmacite, but the fact is, it's not.
Edited, Jul 26th 2012 2:25am by Afania