CHR reduces overload?Follow

Hi all,

Just thought I'd post an interesting observation I came across while leveling with my Valoredge (I'm level 24).

Went to party in Qufim earlier today and was wondering what sort of stat to boost with new gear I was buying. I'd noticed that my CHR was naturally quite high, so I picked up 2 CHR+2 rings and a Bird Whistle. Thought I'd see if it made a difference in automaton performance at all.

When I got to Qufim, I began to wonder if I had made the correct choice -- most of the other PUPs I saw there had STR boosting gear on. I personally choose to sub WHM because I can help out with cures and Dia (we were fighting crabs). Depending on the circumstances and the mob I'll hang back and let my puppet do all of the fighting, or I'll jump in and throw a few punches.

Anyhow: giving the CHR+ gear a shot, I seemed to notice 2 key things. First off, my maneuvers seemed to take effect for a longer duration than before. I never actually timed it with the CHR+ gear on and off, but I'll have to try that tomorrow.

Secondly, my puppet was pretty much impossible to overload. I was pulling in one of my parties, so I had to use maneuvers very frequently (Earth & Wind for stoneskin and evasion while pulling, and Thunder x2 & Fire for ACC and STR up while fighting). While I wasn't spamming them, I was using them much more frequently than I was able to when I didn't have any CHR+ gear equipped. I never overloaded my puppet once, as compared to once every few fights before I got the CHR+ gear.

So, my question is, has anyone else tried adding to their CHR stat and noticed these changes too? I'm beginning to wonder if this is the key stat for PUP.

Right now I'm going for CHR+ and MP+ gear. I'd love to hear other opinions on stat bonuses from you guys.

Edited, Mon Apr 24 02:46:26 2006 by Makanai

at level 21, the only thing that causes an overload in the first place is when you go too heavy on a specific manuever. Say you are pumping a lot of Ice manuevers and only 1 other manuever occasionally, eventually, when u go to throw the ice manuever it will overload. As long as you are switching up the manuevers a lot, and not going top heavy on any one, it is hard to overload, and I actually have never overloaded when altering manuevers a lot. I doubt CHR had anything to do with it but who knows. I noticed you were using a lot of different manuevers though, and that itself helps to prevent overloading.

With monk sub, my highest stats were Dex and Chr, then Vit, then Str and Agi, then Mnd and Int.

I'm not sure what Dex would do, but I think it might affect the better your puppet listens.

Chr, I think, would affect overload as you had said. I don't have money to test this until my stuff sells, so sorry I can only suggest stuff.

Hello, I just thought I would share my opinion. I think CHR effects how well your puppet responds to the maneuvers. I have been using a CHR build since 15. I have +10 and a base of 19 atm. It seems to me that he will do more as I "suggest" it to him. I rarely miss a stoneskin, I can pretty much tell him to use tp, I have had him save it as well. Example: I have 80tp and he is sitting on 120tp. He would not use it until I selected Fire. I have the starting puppet still (rdm is my guess) and I am working on the mage Puppet.

Right now I go /brd for solo and in pty. In pty I can help more by having the puppet engage as I run to the different groups and sing. It seems if I can get Ballad this will help more than my C rating. I will be trying more subs as I lvl.

Anyway, GL all with this confusing job.

A few things I noticed with my auto once I went the CHR route:

1) I never overload now.

2) Each element lasts longer, which especially helps when I stack 2 Light's for double regen or two darks for double refresh.

3) With Fire, I actually noticed my auto tanking better and voking more often. I also noticed that when the mob was hitting me and I was trying to get a cure in, my auto would blind him more often. However, this could be coincidental.

Currently, I have the mage form, but at times I still have him tank with Provoke and Stoneskin. Overall, I think there is a performance increase from using CHR and it just makes sense to me.

If you are subbing WHM, you will have naturally high CHR. It's WHM's second-highest stat.

I'm not saying CHR has nothing to do with it (it would make sense, right? if you're charismatic, you'll have a better performance) but +CHR with a WHM sub is natural for all jobs.

With all of the variables in-game, there's no way to even be sure that CHR will help (it could be coincidence that your automaton did more casting or didn't overload, just like a BLU coincidentally learning the spell as he uses a WS to kill it).

I'm sure there are a number of factors that influence overload. But one I'm fairly certain about, is if you have attachments that max out an element(eg 2 Light attachments when your Light max is 2) and then use the corresponding maneuver, it will overload.

I stepped out of Sandy and used Light Maneuver for the first time and instantly Overloaded. I looked at my attachments and I was 2/2 on Light.

Otherwise, I am not big on testing theories and that, but I do think CHR is probably a factor in how our 'matons work with us -- not just specific to Overloading.

Yep, definately agree. CHR is good for PUP. I dont use CHR gear, but I used a Jack O Lantern (-10 CHR) abd had more or less frequent overloads. Switched to Tuna Sushi (+5 CHR) for a pt in Yuhtunga and it didnt overload the entire party.

Yeah, I was thinking it could possibly be the resist on the noble's ribbon. Any chance of other overloading chr gear, like signet staff, brd sub (they'll take anything in dunes and you know it,) or other stuffs, and then removing the noble's ribbon & other resist gear while experimenting? Oh, and don't use light maneuvers, due to the hope rings.

I'd like to narrow this down so that I can make decisions on where to keep my resist gear (like, say, blue ribbon > storage for example.) And since I'm at class today... /cry