CooldownFollow

Source JP thread

Google English version

Cooldown lvl 95
Reduces burden? No info on duration (probably instant?) or recast time.

More info on the English official threads this evening.

Hmmm, something to look forward to.
Overload is hardly an issue these days so itll be pretty dissapointing if we end up with an ability to help prevent something most of us rarely see.

It looks like cooldown is an ability that reduces the overload/burden on your automaton,

aka you Activate, cooldown, ice ice (baby) ice, no risk of overload or need to wait 2 minutes for activate burden to wear off.


Moksha looks like a job trait added to the pets, its hindu for release, and is in regards to 'release from the circle of life/death' which is pretty appropriate. I read the statement after it is more along the lines of using attachments to add more moksha? Maybe something like, you can release at 95% hp and it acts like 100% hp. Then with attachments you can reduce it even futher to 90/80/75%?

The rest is them talking about not just focusing on attachments to fix the job, but attachment balance and new attachments are considered priority/important.

Edited, Aug 18th 2011 5:54pm by dustinfoley

Exactly. What's the point? We have enough tools already to control overload. Heck, activate, Icex3 is totally safe with AF3+2, AF1 hands, collar. Having Kenkonken would make this totally ridiculous. I'm not complaining, mind you, as it was discussed many times here, this is how maneuvers should have worked from the very beginning. Overload has always been an unnecessary characteristic of maneuvers.

Official Translation(even though its mostly covered already) + Interesting tidbit.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11567-ATTN-Community-Reps-Dev-Team-PUPs-of-Vanadiel-DEMAND-a-response-on-Automaton-A.I.!?p=172896&viewfull=1#post172896

so um yeah understand the need for subtle blow but really? Unless the attachment adds 10% haste/snapshot I dont see me ever replacing a current attachment with it.


Although the fact they are reviewing all attachments finally is somewhat hopeful.

/punt tactical processor & scanner

Shouta look above.

Uhh, pretty sure that one's more your fault for reading too much into press releases in a language you don't understand? I'm lead to believe that's just what subtle blow is called in the jp version. There's no mention of any 'Moksha' in the english language release.



They LOVE doing that to drk. 'Yay, releasing aspir 2. What? They say they already have enough mp on anything that's aspirable and just need a way to recover mp vs mobs that don't have mp? $%^# them, let's nerf aspir.'
Not to mention 'Okay, let's give them af3 hands that enhance, uhh, absorb tp, sure. What? That's already potent enough and only dependant on the mob having tp, so they aren't excited? NERF.'

Cooldown.. LAME

Subtleblow.. Yawn

This is just stuff that doesnt do anything for me. Cooldown may of been a better idea at level 20 then level 95 or whatever it is. I rarely overloaded at 75...and at 90 I havent overloaded. So much reduce overload gear and yea... Bunch of crap... yawn..

Subtleblow.. um... i rather see something more exciting.. unless they are going to give me more new stuff to kill, this is lame too...

I am highly dissapointed by what they announced.

It's like any other update. Sometimes people are right, sometimes they are wrong.

RDM whining about how awful Composure will be.

SMN whining that Elemental Siphon is probably going to be trash.

BRD whining about Critical Defense Bonus (the best thing they ever received!)

It may suck. It may be good. It may be meh. You can speculate on what it's going to do.

However, I agree completely with Anza on this one. There isn't much of a point whining about or praising something until you actually see what it does and try it yourself.

@1 Watch your tone, first off. When i saw the word moksha i had a good idea it wasn't japanese, which led me to believe that the JA/trait may have some new effect and the name might be a clue as to what that effect might be. That SE is again trying to pass off an old ability under a new, cooler name is the only thing at fault here. They had a chance to shine and in classic SE form, looks like they are gonna blow it.

Now, not saying that moksha is not a japanese word. I don't know japanese, as such i can't truly say. If it is however, someone please enlighten me as to its exact meaning-i'd love to know.


@2 I happen to be a DRK too and love that job, but you wanna whine about it-please do it over in the DRK forum. I made the last statement because SE has used that old business strat before, on jobs across the board, and are implementing it again now with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer. Was more dissappointed in SE this time around than shocked or surprised they would do such a thing.

Well, PUP already got a boost in the July mini-update with the 4 new attachments, and most jobs got nothing in that minor update. We'll get some other things too - Thunder V comes to mind, maybe more new attachments, we may start seeing attachment adjustments or pet defense buffs that S-E has been hinting at... I'm not getting overly excited (either positive or negative) until I actually see how this stuff works though and find out what we actually end up getting.

You also don't know if the new BST pets are even any good, so why be jealous of them already? Maybe the new slug sucks and people will still stick to Nazuna and Dipper Yuly. Wouldn't be the first time an addition was underwhelming.

And while Subtle Blow isn't OMGamazing!, one thing a lot of people are discounting is that if VE actually does continue to get buffed up as a tank, it's a VERY nice trait to have for soloing stuff with the automaton tanking. I'd rather have it than not, even if it's relatively minor.



As listed, I don't truly know what the hell it does. I'm quite sure you of all people understand that S-E's JA/item description text doesn't always tell the whole story - like the Animator debates I've seen you involved in on the official forum.

It honestly wouldn't shock me if "reduces the strain on your automaton" could be a way of saying your pet is buffed in some other way. Say, a 5min JA granting 2min JA haste or att/acc to the automaton. By reducing the "strain" on your pet it performs better.

Or maybe it's some sort of "mini-Overdrive"? After using the JA, the automaton will be immune from overloading on the element of the next maneuver used for 1min AND get enhanced effects from that maneuver (increasing potency of attachments or adding a greater amount of the stat associated with the element).

It also wouldn't shock me if it's simply something related to overloading - reducing "burden" accumulation, wiping out all accumulated burden, removing an already triggered overload, etc. But I really don't know at this point, and I'm not going to get too worked up about it until we actually get to play around with this new ability.

Edited, Aug 20th 2011 2:32pm by Anza

Not just the PUP forum Anza.

ITU: Pup gets another job ability at a ridiculously high level that should really be added at half of the level it's been made available, if not even lower; due mostly to people whining about maneuvers being inconvenient.

Anza, I feel your pain. I got rated down because I made a joke about how SE really doesn't care about pup.