Extenerator and agiFollow

Hey all,

Just pointing out that our new ws is agility modified. I am very happy about this. Our evasion kilas just became viable DD weapons as well (I didn't say the best, I just said viable). At this point, given that I have 2x eva kilas +3, I no longer have any intention of making str kilas. I'll just merit this new ws.

Still, it's going to be weird stacking agility for a ws. Now, where did I put that drone earring?

My AGI merits suddenly look shinier. :D

Shhhh, quiet! I'm trying to buy cheap attack gear while selling AGI gear since the price is going up.

What's a good set going to look like on DNC? Thinking boots specifically...

And I'm close to finishing my Twashtar though I'd still like to have both WS available, but a gear set good for both? I dunno. How's the +100 TP Fusetto look for this WS?

Rudra's:

Twashstar/Fusetto/-/Charis
Aias/Gorget/Aesir/Brutal
Loki's/AF3+2/Epona's/Rajas
Nifty/Cuchulains/Tumbler/AF3+3

Exenterator:

Twashstar/Fusetto/-/Charis
Ocl Head/Gorget/Aesir/Brutal
Loki's/AF3+2/Epona's/Rajas
???/???/Ambusher's/Lithe

Most important question here, at least to me, is: Does it beat DE out of Aby? And I don't mean in full +2's with gear from final VW... I mean for us regular joes lol.
Trying to get back to doing Dynamis and I think if I had something fun to work with it might help me. 500k a day is a ton to lose out on when you don't even have 300k total...

Drat!



Yea they changed it awhile back. The funny thing is, nowadays you can actually make 500k a run (solo even) totally half-assing it in Dynamis.

Assuming it is exactly what it looks like, I would expect it to beat DE by about 10%~20%.

If you're fighting super-EP trash mobs (the stuff that was EP to a 75 and still is only due to magian trials), then fSTR won't do a lot for you. It's probably capped.

Dual STR daggers (fully upgraded) would be STR+24, or fSTR+6, essentially +6 damage to each hand.

One STR dagger (not fully upgraded) would just be like +9 or +10 (depending on +2/+3) which is only 2~3 fSTR, +2~3 damage to each hand.

Turning a 45 damage dagger into a 47 damage dagger probably isn't going to let you eyeball the results. Turning two 45 damage daggers into 51 damage daggers.... a bit more noticeable.

And again, whacking away at EP is hardly the time when STR/Atk are most relevant.

Edited, Dec 18th 2011 2:11pm by ItsAMyri

Making two STR makes me sad since fire is a rather rare weather :(

Has anyone tested this weapon skill and determined if we want to go all in on agility when using it?

Also, take a look at this thread. They talk about gear sets and numbers. Because Exenterator doesn't crit, Evis/Rudra's is still the go to ws inside Aby, while this one is for outside Aby content.

<Fire><Day of the Week> + abyssea <you can have this>

Fire weather is a myth.

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I like how this is basically a tanking ws, even if it's not the king of damage. I'm saying this is because as I understand it, this ws gives a -20 accuracy debuff on the mob, something I'd take any day of the week. Agi mods go nicely with Gnarled Horn and evasion thokchas, which I would be using on anything difficult to tank/solo.

Dancer is a hybrid job; I don't really expect or want dancer to outperform a pure DD job on pure DD. Meaning I hope that the rangers and dark knights can out damage us. This is a hybrid ws: debuff + damage. It's suits dancer, in my opinion.

I know if I was tanking on anything and the dancer did not keep this debuff up 100% of the time they were meleeing I would scream bloody murder.

Now, if you're in a really hard fight, where you're more concerned with survival than quick kills and you can't just blow through it on the haste = less healing mentality, then keeping some finishing moves up for violent flourish is a great idea. Perhaps, in these situations, you know, the fights hard enough that we might need a debuff that lowers mob accuracy, we could use Ternary Flourish when at five finishing moves so we never have those brief moments between reverse flourish -> ws -> presto -> step. Or, even worse, reverse flourish -> ws with some missed hits -> attack round with a missed hit -> cursing the game -> finally landed a hit -> lol you just died before you could get a step off to load up for violent flourish.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 1:20pm by Thydonon

- he presumed -
On the other hand, I propose the -acc penalty or -multi hit penalty to be more likely for this WS.
With dual AGI Kila (380 delay total, 0.65 coeff from DW, and 16 store TP total), it's very hard for me to get 14 TP return on WS (4+1 hit). I got a lot of 3+1 hit. It's weird enough that I rarely see the off hand miss (<10 TP return), but rarely see full 5-hit on it.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2011 1:18am by VZX

Just popping in with a question here: has anyone done testing to show if we want to use the elemental gorget/belts?

Pre-thanks.