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#1 Feb 16 2011 at 9:48 PM Rating: Good
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It has been a long time since I have played FFXI so I was hoping to get some of the new info for RDM


First off what is the new good sub for soloing, I want to solo the sky gods when I get leveled up since it was always a goal when I played before. Back then it was all /nin or /blm but I have sen some videos and it seems /blu might be the new solo sub.

Are rdm still a desired class or does everyone just /rdm now since lv cap is so high?

Since I am starting from scratch should I make a taru? are they still slightly better with higher int and mnd? or does the newer gear make that obsolete?


That is all I can think of for now. Sorry for the boring post but I have 2 hours left on the updates for FFXI so trying to pass the time.

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#2 Feb 16 2011 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
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If you can land Bind reliably, it really won't matter too much what sub you choose. /NIN's just a bigger safety net for resists or allowing you to be more offensive in eating a single-target to fire out your own. Of course, Genbu could be tickled to death regardless of sub. You won't be soloing Kirin, though. Honestly, I'd say you got a Genbu's Shield and Wyrmal Hands to just call it a day, but if you do ever consider leveling another job, the other drops could be temporarily handy until you pick up Abyssea-based replacements.

Taru's basically the best race if you're looking to go pure offensive caster on RDM, but if you think you might be regretting the aesthetic later on down the line, I'd just say to think about it a bit more.

Far as want goes, RDM's trigger options in Abyssea are limited and we're certainly not the best healers with WHMs having both Cure 5 and 6. You'll probably get invites to stuff eventually if you're just PUGing, but we're hardly in the monopolistic position some argued for back in the ToAU days.

And while you didn't ask about this, I'll preempt a bit of "What to..." when it comes to Abyssea since another poster asked kind of recently. Obviously you still have some work ahead of you if you're starting from scratch, but eventually you'll be digging into Abyssea.
#3 Feb 16 2011 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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What do you mean for soloing? Like EXP soloing or NM Soloing.

EXP soloing

/SCH, /BLM work great for nuking.

/BLU, /DNC work great for melee.

/NIN is effective in either situation.

For NM soloing

/NIN is still pretty much go to.
/BLU is useful if you have the -PDT set to straight tank mobs
/SCH is useful for kite nuke strats

For party play
/SCH is pretty much the best in the backline now
/WHM is slightly useful (stona,viruna)
/BLM is also slightly useful (stun,sleepga)

/NIN is the highest damage melee sub
/DNC is decent damage decent support melee
/WAR is decent melee.

Pro's in a group
Can proc weaponskill !!'s
Can proc magical !!'s
Can hold mobs

Cons in a group
Can't heal well
Doesn't have wham pow damage dedicated jobs have.

It is a hybrid job, like DNC it is tough to get a niche roll. With Refresh being mostly redundant in Abyssea, RDM is kind of mostly redundant in a lot of peoples eyes. But it can be quite the !! proc job if you have a competent player at the helm. It currently is one of the better low man choices for groups because it can do such a variety of magic and WS based procs, while offering some damage and some support. Its not like ToAU days where it seemed that for EXP parties if their was no RDM seeking there was no party.


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#4 Feb 17 2011 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the replys looks like i have a lot of subs to lv but will be fun
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If you are looking to be a relevant asset quickly focus on NIN and SCH first. They are the most useful subjobs currently IMHO. But if you are just out to enjoy the process I highly recommend going BLU or DNC first. They are incredibly fun support jobs.
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#6 Feb 18 2011 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
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elevencharle wrote:

It has been a long time since I have played FFXI so I was hoping to get some of the new info for RDM






Good to see some more Army on these boards... Hooah!
#7 Feb 23 2011 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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yeah I just restarted as a RDM but I am a BLU at heart and never tried DNC so I think those are some of the things I will be focussing on once I can grind up a bit. I am slightly concerned about jobs like SCH which seem tough to solo - are there enough low-level parties going on out there to make leveling okay for lower ranked peeps?
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
I am slightly concerned about jobs like SCH which seem tough to solo - are there enough low-level parties going on out there to make leveling okay for lower ranked peeps?


SCH is kind of a pain to level in the 10-20 range solo, but before that and after that it's not that bad at all. If you can get a DD from your LS to sync with you from 10-20 you can blow through it fairly quickly due to FoV and the XP Boost (don't forget Emperor Band, either). Other than that, you can solo it without much trouble.

For 1-10, go /MNK5 and eat Mithkabobs, massacre Easy Prey by the boatload. H2H will outdo "nuke to death > rest rest rest > nuke to death > rest rest rest" by a long shot, even with subjob skill, due to how close low level stats are.

After you hit 20, start the BLM soloing guide. It can take you as far as you need to go on SCH.
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#9 Feb 23 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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SCH/BST is also a pretty viable way to go if you have BST to sub. If you have a fresh character, eh, it'll be kind of a pain.
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#10 Feb 23 2011 at 4:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Aliekber wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
I am slightly concerned about jobs like SCH which seem tough to solo - are there enough low-level parties going on out there to make leveling okay for lower ranked peeps?


SCH is kind of a pain to level in the 10-20 range solo, but before that and after that it's not that bad at all. If you can get a DD from your LS to sync with you from 10-20 you can blow through it fairly quickly due to FoV and the XP Boost (don't forget Emperor Band, either). Other than that, you can solo it without much trouble.

For 1-10, go /MNK5 and eat Mithkabobs, massacre Easy Prey by the boatload. H2H will outdo "nuke to death > rest rest rest > nuke to death > rest rest rest" by a long shot, even with subjob skill, due to how close low level stats are.

After you hit 20, start the BLM soloing guide. It can take you as far as you need to go on SCH.


Big rate up for the fab information

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SCH/BST is also a pretty viable way to go if you have BST to sub. If you have a fresh character, eh, it'll be kind of a pain.


BST is one of the jobs I plan to get up there, so if it truly would make a difference it would be pretty simple to get BST 15 or so and then I have SCH good to go for a bit.
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#11 Feb 23 2011 at 8:06 PM Rating: Good
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If your aim is to 49 SCH with /BST, you'll need BST to 49, as well. Maybe less if you stick to EP mobs, but in general BST is a quirky sub like that. As I've told others in the past, though, /BST in Qufim is pretty solid in taking you from 32-41 paired with FoV. With the EXP adjustment and more FoV, it's even better. Just nab the crab/pugil page, charm a leech, commence slaughter. It'd be up to you if you use Sublimation or FoV Refresh, but eventually you'd be able to Aspir the crabs and nuke decently alongside the pet. I'd suggest meleeing with a club otherwise.
#12 Apr 15 2011 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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I don't really want to start a new thread for this so I will just hi-jack this one since it is a bit related I suppose.

Me and my DRG friend who have "just" gotten back and dinged 90 are thinking about trying to duo some stuff, both new and old. Aside from going through all missions we were thinking of farming for a refresh hairpin/-pdt rings (I don't remember the names of either). Our jobs are RDM(me) and DRG and I am unsure how to best do it. Like, step by step what would you suggest we do to best farm these items?

What lights should we focus on getting and in what order should we try to get them? I am asking because I am still not very sure how all these lights things work, what triggers what and if just killing mobs is the best because I've seen some people run off and kill NMs (VNMs?) for some lights, would that be a good idea for us too?

Thanks in advance!
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#13 Apr 15 2011 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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a quick rundown:

azure lights come from magic kills
pearl lights come from weapon kills (not ws kills)
amber lights come from magical ws kills (sanguine blade etc)
ruby lights come from physical ws kills (avoid these unless you want exp)

edit: forgot to add that vnm t1 mobs are great to build fast pearl while ephimurals are great to build fast pearl - about 5 lights per each mob.

basically if you want to make the most out of your time cap pearl and azure first in the order of 25-30ish each. Basically you want the messages on blue chests to read "gains a tremendous amount of exp" or "princely amount of cruor" consistently. If they do then you more than likely have your lights capped. But be careful as sometimes you will get a high yield exp or cruor chest mixed in with medium yield which means you are not capped yet. By capping these two you will get time extensions more often (TE) hopefully. Then from there you can either cap or bring to about 15ish lights amber light. Some camps say that 15 is about the median where you can get better yield of spoils from gold chests rather than Key Items from giant gold chests. I tend to agree with this and try to stick with only small gold chest pop. Some others believe you should cap amber...ill leave that up to you.

You will definitely need a hard hitting aoe ws if you want to farm fast. Aeolean Edge works well for rdm as you can boost the sh*te out of it with atmas to bring it to about 1.5kish (dont quote me on that)...and your drg friend i dont know what aoe ws he would use as i have never aoe farmed with drg before. Make sure you have some form of aoe sleep. Treants worked well for me but you can use saplings as well to farm or even shrooms.

If you dont go the aoe way than single kills will more than likely go pretty fast just not volume wise like aoe style. Be prepared with a lot of keys and macro keys to help open chests faster. Also note that getting that hairpin is like litterally finding a needle in a haystack. Some people have farmed for 7 hours straight and gotten 0 hairpins...others got extremely lucky and got on within an hour.

ANNND if you happen to make friends with a decent blu they can charged whisker farm with you and things will go very fast then.

hope this helps....

Edited, Apr 15th 2011 12:10pm by Deadus
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#14 Apr 15 2011 at 10:09 AM Rating: Excellent
Typically you want to farm azure lights first, which is through magic kill shots. As a RDM this will be your job. It will probably take a few kills to get the timing right, but once you have it down, it is easy to do. After that you will want to work on Pearl lights, which is from regular melee swing kills. Your DRG friend (and you on the mob w/ sword can get these). The key to pearl lights is kill speed, so you will want use lower tier nukes to help bring the mobs down quickly. Once you have worked through these lights, or even during, get Amber lights. These are from elemental WS kill shots. Since the dark rings and wivre hairpins are from gold chests, it is essential to have your amber lights built up.

You can also build up lights via Ruby lights, which give Ruby chests. The more Ruby lights you have the more Ruby chests that drop, which give you all of the other lights. The problem (and it is debated heavily throughout the forums) is that more Ruby chests = less Blue chests = less time extensions. This also means less gold chests, so less dark rings and wivre hairpins.

Good luck and have fun!
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#15 Apr 15 2011 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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typically groups farm red chests only if they want to boost their exp/cruor yields. I would stay far away from farming any ruby to do aoe farming. Ebons boosts all lights. Ruby chests can drop any light (pearl, azure, gold, silver, ebon, amber) but you are not guaranteed the potency of that light unless you are capped on ruby...which would be very bad for farming as you would have tons of red chests dropping wayyy more than any gold. If you want to waste an inordinate amount of time do this...and possibly NOT get any TE on the way.
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#16 Apr 15 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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Thank you so much guys this was exactly what I needed to know! Really awesome info. Hopefully we will get lucky, but we are mostly just out to get things done while doing stuff together so its good either way. Thanks again! :)
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