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#1 Jun 02 2009 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hello fellow Paladins. First time poster, long time reader.

My story is pretty simple, I had a PLD friend who went and fought Maat, lost three times at the moment. First time he got cocky, started talking about how easy this was then ate Asuran Fist twice.

Second time, the same thing happened, except Maat spammed Asuran Fists ELEVEN times before dropping him.

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Third time was the same as second, just not as much.

Now, I remember a story about a PLD taking 5-6 Asuran Fists in a row too. My question is what triggers this? Is there some sort of time limit for the PLD fight?
#2 Jun 02 2009 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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From what I have gathered its the same as every G5 fight. And it's a time thing. After a while, Maat just spams Asuran Fists til you die, or in my gfs case with her Dancer, that ***** used Dancing Edge about 6 times back to back til she droped.
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#3 Jun 02 2009 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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It's all a luck thing, because nobody has been able to determine exactly what sets him off. He can do it right away or he can go the whole fight without ever doing it. Sometimes he'll just make you lose; there is no real way around it unless Invincible/Sentinel can keep you alive long enough.
#4 Jun 02 2009 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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The PLD is wearing AF in the screenshots. If you want to worry less about time, get some DD gear. I went 1/1 and finished REAL quick using my DD gear that I had. I'd only suggest giving DD PLD a try on Maat. The fight is over fast either way that way.
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The PLD is wearing AF in the screenshots. If you want to worry less about time, get some DD gear. I went 1/1 and finished REAL quick using my DD gear that I had. I'd only suggest giving DD PLD a try on Maat. The fight is over fast either way that way.




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#6 Jun 02 2009 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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10 times. I'm pretty sure it was due to the time spent in there. I was using swift blade instead of vorpal, was eating defense food instead of carbonara or another attack food, and I had already used sentinel twice at this point, so atleast 5 minutes + time needed to sleep for 100 TP, and then an odd minute or two since Sentinel wasn't back up yet when he started unleashing. If I had to guess I'd say it's 10-15 minute range is when you start to time out.

In this pic, the 10 asuran's were back-to-back, he landed the first 1 or 2 before invincible; Incinvicble ate a majority of them while I tried to recover, but I just "didn't have what it takes." XD;

[edit] Yeah, I went in with a hauby and woodsmans x2, and an amemet+1. I just made the mistake of using swift blade and a taco. Just to add into the thread as far as help on winning goes...Don't try to turtle up. Pretend you have to be a squishy DD and prepare for it thusly(by bringing a good combo of hipots/muslim/ethers/YagDrink(s), and 1 vile elixer(or +1) if you want an extra safety net. DD gear, DD food(I suggest carbonara for HP+, sTP+, and attack+). My second attempt I won at around 6 and a half minutes, and I didn't sleep all the way to 100 TP because I was worried about my time from the first time. Use vorpal blade. ;O I was also lucky to have my Ohat for the 2nd attempt...>.>b[/edit]
[edit2go]Wups, forgot to mention..at that point in time in my PLD career I had DMG filtered to in-game instead of in-chat, because I was learning to adjust to DynamisSpam and was tired of changing filters all the time. I still say, to this day, SE needs to add filters/settings books that change when you swap macro books.[/edit2off]

Edited, Jun 2nd 2009 7:43pm by FenrirXIII
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#7 Jun 02 2009 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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DD gear is an especially good idea considering you'll be spending a good deal of the fight with Matt flashed/sentinel/invincible up.

As for asuran spam, as said, if he wants you to die, you will... unless he's almost dead already.
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#8 Jun 03 2009 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I beat Maat first try two days ago and PLD is my first job to level high. It went pretty smoothly, beat him in somewhat more than five minutes. I won with the third swift blade, just before I wanted to use Invincible. Some things I like to give as advice:

- If it's your first job for Maat, wait until you hit level 70. You get Defense Bonus IV at level 70 and can cast Protect IV.
- Take time to skill up, especially if you have done a lot of level synching in the 60's. My sword skill has been around cap for lvl 68 which was o.k.
- Don't bother sleeping TP up at the beginning - it takes longer than building TP during the fight, so it's a waste of time imho.
- Don't bother using Hi-Potions. In the three seconds time they take to activate you get hit at least once by Maat, which more or less negates the benefit.
- Don't bother going into the arena naked. I didn't and the fight was no problem.
- Use an Icarus Wing for an extra WS.
- I used swift blade which seems to give more reliable damage than vorpal (vorpal can get higher numbers though).
- I went with my normal exp party gear, which leans towards DD but not all-out.

Besides that I guess I was a bit lucky as Maat didn't use Asuran Fists. If you need more than 8 minutes, he'll spam Asuran Fists to end the fight, though.


Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 12:10pm by FireHedgehog
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#9 Jun 03 2009 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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He does that only when you pass the 10 minute time limit. Instead of just booting you out, he kills you with asuran fists.

Quit being so slow and he won't do it :p
#10 Jun 03 2009 at 12:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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I lost the first time due to taking too long/Asuran spam (wearing AF/VIT/etc), but I got him the second time at 66 going the full DD route, fight was over fairly quick. This was pre-OMG PLD has everything (Autorefresh/Sentinel update, Shield Mastery) I did cap Sword before entering the second time.
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:r wow really? I went in and honestly had no trouble at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzxfEDzpgbw&feature=channel_page

It seemed really easy to me anyway.
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#12 Jun 03 2009 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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maat spams asuran fists when he suddenly suffers a diarhea attack and needs to get the fight over as soon as he possibly can.
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#13 Jun 03 2009 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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:r wow really? I went in and honestly had no trouble at all.


Again, the Asuran spam is all random. About the only thing that can be said about it is that the quicker you win the fight, the less likely you will be to see it happen.
#15 Jun 03 2009 at 7:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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loyfriend wrote:
Yellow cury DD food.
and if you have a friend, use a k club, show him who is boss.

Sub drk souleater pop your 2 horu and he will fall, I promise you he will fall....

I promise you he won't since you can't use subjobs.
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loyfriend wrote:
Yellow cury DD food.
and if you have a friend, use a k club, show him who is boss.

Sub drk souleater pop your 2 horu and he will fall, I promise you he will fall....



Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 11:13pm by loyfriend


I'm now 100% praying you really don't have an apoc.
#18 Jun 03 2009 at 9:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wont know for 3 hours.

But I did let my best friend in 2005 who was going to fight maat borrow my k club. He also used other DD gear and yellow curry. The fight didnt last that long.

Dont complain to me because you have a long fight and die to soon. BEAT THE F out of him using DD gear and weapon. If you dont and I can PvP you i will use my relic on you.

heck ***** the yellow curry. Go for the red curry. Add a bomb
core. add some salvage gear with +attack stats among others.
But still use the K club. Then pop your spikes spell. WATCH MAAT DIE. If it helps
you, you can pretend that yoru beatingme up.

But then again if you lose to maat, just know it was me who gave you a beatdown......


****, if it was me, I would open with a light Skillchain. Rest 100 tp. Savage blade, switch toa club, IC wing black halo, = LIGHT SC.

AGAIN I am MAATS father and beating him every job. I dont like to jus
just win, I like to beat it up so nothing remains.

If you dont have that SC... Do swift blade, Spinning slash. TAKE HIM DOWN!!!

After all he far from the hardest mob you will have to take down.


Edited, Jun 4th 2009 1:19am by loyfriend

Edited, Jun 4th 2009 1:23am by loyfriend


Three things wrong with that, which I have bolded.

1st: Pld can't wear bomb core.
2nd: If you're going in to fight him at 70, you can't wear any salvage gear due to it being lvl 75.
3rd: You can't perform any of the quested WSs at 70 since you can't unlock them until 71, rendering the light SC idea useless.

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Edited, Jun 4th 2009 1:36am by XxHigetsuxX
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#21 Jun 04 2009 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Don't encourage him. Loyfriend is the Victrola of the BLU forums and I'd love to see him stay the **** out of here, but if we keep responding to him, he's going to keep posting his crap either because he thinks we're taking him seriously (i.e., he believes his dribble) or he knows he's getting a rise out of us (i.e., he's a troll). Either way, I'm done responding to him or even reading anything he has to say.
#22 Jun 05 2009 at 12:46 AM Rating: Good
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I've heard it said that if you fight Maat below lvl70 (i.e. 66-69) then he doesn't use Asuran Fists. I can't verify that (I fought him at lvl69 turtle-style ages ago and he didn't use it on me at all, but I haven't ever fought him again).
I don't know if there is additional information about this anywhere? I can't remember where I read it, it was long long ago lol ><
Possibly it has been changed, or possibly it was wrong in the first place lol.
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#23 Jun 05 2009 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Waited till level 70 to do mine (for Protect IV). Used carbonara and DD gear. Finished in at about 5 minutes and never saw an Asuran Fists. I had a vile elixir +1 but never used it either. I did use a bunch of hi-pots +whatever. I also slept to 100% tp and used an Icy Wing. I believe I alternated between Vorpal and Swift Blade.

Might just have been one of my lucky nights. Went to farm tests just before that and got it on first mob.

Oh, and OP, make sure your friend is using Reprisal, it didn't exist when I did mine, but that should get him TP really fast.

Edited, Jun 5th 2009 8:26am by SCorbs
#24 Jun 07 2009 at 9:36 PM Rating: Default
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I'm almost positive there's a 5 minute time limit for the fight, which, when passed, causes Maat to decide you unworthy, and finish the fight with asuran fists spammage (TP+500?). It has been awhile since I did this, but on youtube, if you look up Maat fights in which the author of the video lost, you'll notice there's a pretty distinct similarity in the length of the videos. I'm fairly convinced there's a set time limit, not some random chance of it happening.

That said, eating 11 Asuran Fists in a row by yourself is pretty epic.
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I'm almost positive there's a 5 minute time limit for the fight, which, when passed, causes Maat to decide you unworthy, and finish the fight with asuran fists spammage (TP+500?). It has been awhile since I did this, but on youtube, if you look up Maat fights in which the author of the video lost, you'll notice there's a pretty distinct similarity in the length of the videos. I'm fairly convinced there's a set time limit, not some random chance of it happening.


Definitely not 5 minutes. According to most reports it's 8 minutes when he starts spamming Asuran Fists.
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#26 Jun 08 2009 at 7:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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It is time based. Dont take too long on your fight. IE: DD Gear and food!
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