Tarutaru PLDFollow

What stats should we focus on? VIT like everyone else? or is there some special tactic to being a pld taru?

No one focuses on vit anymore......unless they plain don't know wtf they're doing.

Looks like 90% of my server doesn't know what they're doing. >_>

Que the more you know picture, stat!

Taru's best asset: MP
Taru's largest hindrance: HP

In exp 1-75, you should have no problems as a taru PLD, except maybe if you get an unlucky Sickle Slash, or Incinerate [no one ever wants to fight anything but colibri though.]

In endgame, HP will be your only issue, but not one that cannot be overcome. I have 1800 hp as Elvaan PLD/NIN. Byakko can get me low very quickly. That is the only thing that might be a problem. However, the main issue is ANY badass PLD will get killed if the backline/support jobs suck ass. A good timely stun, a quick WHM, having haste/marchx2, and a good co-tank makes ANY RACE of PLD much better than if the backline is afk looking at porn. You should be fine as taru PLD if you and your backline play adequately.

Edited, Jun 9th 2009 11:35am by Palides

You didn't read the post at all, eh? lol

Does having the lowest HP hurt taru's in taking endgame? No.

Does it help to have higher HP for ENM loss, and annoying TP moves/Citadel Buster/-agaIV etc, etc? Yes. [and this can be accomplished via gear swaps.

Can Taru PLD tank anything a Galka/Elvaan can tank? Yes.

Never said it would be tough, just a little harder for a brand new Taru PLD, not a taru PLD as well geared and experienced as yourself.

Edited, Jun 9th 2009 2:33pm by Palides

Done.


I find the taru "advantage" of more max mp to be overrated. Outside of the first initial 5 mins, max mp is meaningless. It's all about the mp recovery rate and no race has an advantage there. AS more max HP, now that pld/nin has been perfected, a lot of the "deadly TP moves" can be negated by shadows, so HP really isn't much of a factor. But, there are some moves, like Citadel Buster that are must easier to survive with more HP. Then again, no matter what you do or how much HP you got, sh*t hits the fan sometimes and you die. There ain't much you can do to survive a 2.4k attack

But outside endgame, taru plds should focus on what other plds do: acc, haste and shield skill. By the time you reach endgame, hopefully you'll have a feel as to what you need to focus on.

Whats this about no one focuses on VIT anymore? Is that not why people wear Koenig gear?

You should focus on haste and Atonement TP like everyone else.

As far as HP goes I vary a bit depending on what I'm doing. In Sky I usually have 1530hp idle as a hume vs anything that can kill me if something goes wrong (Kirin, Byakko, Suzy). A DRK/NIN in +dmg taken gear tould tank Genbu or Seiryu as well as I could.

Overall just be a little more careful than your Elvaan buddies when swapping gear that will lower your hp. Find some numbers you feel comfortable with vs any actual dangerous NM and don't swap below that.

Slight derail. It seems some VIT PLDs on my server were Moogle Bonanza winners. Saw a couple PLDs equipped with Hauteclaires along with Knightly Mantles, Unyielding Rings, Ritter Shields, Drone Earrings and etc...

/facepalm

I won Rank 3, but I chose the BCD voucher for my SCH.

You wouldn't believe how many people berated me for not getting a Hauteclaire. To put it simply... it's a situational /WAR piece and I wasn't going to benefit by having one.

I don't know about you, but considering how I'm PLD/NIN most of the time, -7% Physical Damage Taken is next to useless because of shadows. The Enmity+4 from the Chainsaw +1 is much more effective for my play style.

that, and increased DoT tends to make up for the enmity loss in its own way at any rate

Thats what gear-swaps are for.

And +7 acc is never useless just because you have homam......I'm at a loss to even respond to this without being insulting.

Edited, Jul 6th 2009 3:34pm by Asdrabael

Um... I can think of a way to remedy this that will take approximately 3 minutes of your healers' time, forever. Seriously, how can people complain about blinking?

Unfortunately, I have a lot of experience with lazy healers for most of my end game events.

Also, I don't have Atonement yet because I'm still in the process of climbing Nyzul, so gearing for accuracy isn't a priority for me at this time. However, once I acquire it, I have intentions of gearing for accuracy, but I do not have the desire to add Hauteclaire in the kit because I think Joyeuse would ultimately, in my case, be more useful for gaining TP.

If you actually read what I wrote, Haute isn't part of an atonement set. Haute is the best non-atonement sword you can use unless you're kiting (and its debatable there). It has accuracy and higher damage meaning less chance of 0's for building tp for chivalry, with -7% damage for if shadows drop and you get smacked around.

This isn't a hard concept to wrap your head around (or it shouldn't be anyway). Enmity is mostly only useful until you cap hate. This should take you roughly 5 minutes to do with a basic mostly AH set. After that, you really don't need enmity to maintain it because unless you start taking lots of damage your only hate loss is shadows and between melee hits (even using haute over joyeuse) and flash you can stay capped. If you do take damage(which haute reduces unless its magic and makes you lose LESS hate than otherwise), you can get enough enmity from gear excluding sword completely to recap your hate in a couple cures. The 4 enmity with the added negative impact of -4 accuracy and sh*tty damage makes it really not a very good sword if you can get better alternatives like haute for non-atonement situations.

Will a joyeuse beat a haute for a majority of fights? Yes. Will the minority of fights where you -don't- use joyeuse be better served using a haute over a beavertail +1? Yes. This is common sense talking if you have even a minor understanding of how hate works.

Edited, Jul 7th 2009 12:27pm by Asdrabael

What started this, was he -did- have the option to get haute and he gave it up for an easy to get northlands dynamic piece, which was the sch beauc piece. The new job af's drop pretty commonly, which means he gave up a very good paladin and rare paladin piece, for a relatively easy to obtain scholar piece.

And he was bragging on how everyone else was wrong for going "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?".

As for the gear swaps, you can make ingame macrosets on ps2 and xbox360 that can switch all your gear by having macros call other macros, and each macro switching 5 pieces of gear. Its more work, but its the exact same and performs better than just making a halfass hybrid set. What would you say if a melee DD wore a hybrid str/attack set for tp AND ws? They'd be considered gimp for not making an appropriate tp set and ws set and macroing between them no matter what system they're on. The same holds true for tanking.