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#1 Jun 16 2009 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Its about time SE added this piece.
Who else thinks this will completly make Valor surcoat obsolete.Its pretty much Macro only now already. Best Guess at stats.

Def 50 Hp+30 Mdb+5 Enmity+6 set increases all ele resist... this would make me one happy camper.
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#2 Jun 16 2009 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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Useless speculation is useless.
#3 Jun 16 2009 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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Siralin wrote:
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but seriously, haven't there been enough of these thread?
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#4 Jun 16 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Iron Ram Scale Mail
[Body] All Races
DEF: 54 HP +25
MDB +7 Enmity +6
Set: All elemental resist increase
Lv. 68 PLD

Ill take a swing at it

But tbh after all this waiting it better have some augment capability cause this is rather weak for the wait weve had.
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#5 Jun 16 2009 at 7:28 PM Rating: Good
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Your face is useless. >:(
#6 Jun 16 2009 at 11:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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If it's got nothing but a large chunk of MDB, I'll be thrilled.
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#7 Jun 17 2009 at 12:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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NCCoda wrote:
If it's got nothing but a large chunk of MDB, I'll be thrilled.


I doubt it'll be worth much else. Perhaps 1 more enmity than Nuevo for JAs if you like to macro that way...
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#8 Jun 17 2009 at 12:34 AM Rating: Default
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Seeing as all the other pieces dont have all that much Defense on it, i very much doubt the defense on this piece is going to be higher than our AF or even Adaman. (54, come on...)

45 at most. And that's stretching it already. I'm betting on 42 myself.

That, and i have the strangest feeling there's going to be Regen or Refresh on it. It wouldnt make sense to postpone it so far beyond ACP otherwise simply because of it's enmity.
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#9 Jun 17 2009 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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Assuming it's not zero, who tue @#%^ honestly cares about the def rating?
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Defence: OVER NINE THOUUUSSAAANNNDD
Enmity+ OVER NINE THOUUUUSAAANNNDDD
Magic Def bonus OVER NINE THOUUUSAANANNNNDDD
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#11 Jun 17 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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While I realize that things could be a little different since they, for some reason, held on to the release of these bodies for so long, there's no reason to assume anything amazing here. In all of the level 45 sets, the body was no more special than the other pieces...similar in stats to the head or legs. Because of this, I would assume something more like:

DEF: 45
HP +28
Enmity +5
MDB +4
Set Incre.....Blah Blah Blah

I'm always ready to be pleasantly surprised though.
#12 Jun 18 2009 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Valor Surcoat is already obsolete except for its MP conversion capability, which this isn't going to duplicate. I doubt they'll ever add another body armor that does that, which is why the surcoat will always have at least some usefulness.
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#13 Jun 18 2009 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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Dont really care about def, just want the piece to be in line with the rest of the IR set and it will be one of the best enmity and the best mdb body piece for PLD.

Knowing SE i wouldnt be surprise if it is a disappointment though.
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#14 Jun 18 2009 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Seeing as all the other pieces dont have all that much Defense on it, i very much doubt the defense on this piece is going to be higher than our AF or even Adaman. (54, come on...)

45 at most. And that's stretching it already. I'm betting on 42 myself.



Valor Coronet
DEF: 28 HP +18 Emnity +3

Valor Gauntlets
DEF: 22 HP +16 Enmity +3

Valor Breeches
DEF: 43 HP +20 Enmity +3

Valor Leggings
DEF: 19 HP +18 Enmity +1


Valor Surcoat
DEF: 55 HP +23 DEX +3 Enmity +4

Iron Ram Set
Iron Ram Sallet
DEF: 29 HP +20 Enmity +5 Magic Def. Bonus +3

68 Iron Ram Dastanas
DEF: 22 HP +20 Enmity +4 Magic Def. Bonus +2

68 Iron Ram Hose
DEF: 36 HP +28 Enmity +4 Magic Def. Bonus +4

68 Iron Ram Greaves
DEF: 18 HP +19 Enmity +3 Magic Def. Bonus +3


DEF comparison
Valor / IR
Head 28 - 29 = IR Win
Hands 22 - 22 =Tie
Legs 43 - 36 =Valor Descimates (They're F'in Hose man common)
Feet 19 - 18 =Valor Win

They are close and to assume the body wouldnt be close atleast 47+ id be very surprised. Only one that isnt close is the hose...why they chose hose for a scale set idk.

But what it comes down to is were all full of shiznit and all speculation is just that. We know about as much as u say we don't; so let us guess.


Edited, Jun 18th 2009 8:23pm by Nihcru
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#15 Jun 18 2009 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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BTW does this set seem to pull from differnt set types? Sallet are plate, Graves are scale and hose well are hose. Doesnt seem top follow a specific pattern of armor sets.
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#16 Jul 02 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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personally I'm hoping for something that can compete or best the nuevo. I got the pld nuevo body because it'd beat any other option I'd have but...if IR trounces or at least ties it I'd be more than willing to turn nuevo into a drg hauby
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#17 Jul 03 2009 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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The thing that makes Nuevo so unique/good is the fast cast + enmity combo. Same reason Askar and Homam hands are so nice, enmity and haste on the same piece with additional complementary stats. I seriously doubt IR will have that so it really couldn't replace Nuevo for Utsusemi, Flash, Dispel, Sleep etc. It'll likely be an MDB only piece if you have Nuevo, or it might have enough + enmity to macro in for JAs too.



Edited, Jul 4th 2009 1:00am by Yashnaheen
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#18 Jul 04 2009 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I predict 52-55def, +5enmity, 25-30HP, and 3~5 magic def.

Edited, Jul 4th 2009 8:22am by ShadowedgeFFXI
#19 Jul 05 2009 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
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[Body] All Races
DEF: 50 HP +25
MDB +5 Enmity +5 Fast Cast +5
Set: All elemental resist increase
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#20 Jul 05 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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That would be awesome and would let me turn Nuevo into a DRG piece. It would be out of character for the set though and I really doubt it will include fastcast.
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