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#1 Feb 24 2011 at 3:57 AM Rating: Default
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ok i read forums alot and i been seeing alot of pld's trying to find there role or (this is not all)crying that they need a boost. well needing a boost YES you do but until that time comes maybe PLD's should look at taking a different role as a back-up healer and a back up tank rolled into one. kinda what i am getting at is back in the day when pld was the main tank people would go to sky/dyna and other events w/ back-up tanks or secondary tanks. the role of these people was to keep there hate just behind the main tank incaase they went down. granted you wont be the star of the show but if you sit back and use your cure4 to heal the thf/nin/mnk cast your flash when there shadows are down and start the battle w/ tp in hand you can also drop a ws to try to get the red or blue. sometimes having that safty net there even if your not useful at that moment/day could mean you group getting the win or epic fail and your mob taken.

Also the another role pld can be useful for but maybe not as much in the spotlight is the healer/DD in a off party thats farming chest/pop items/TE's with a couple of other solo'ers that are not need atm to ensure the group doesnt run out of time again i know you fell outta the spotlight i know but then again you were in it for so long and abyssea wont last forever 91-99 pld will make a comeback outside of abyssea just make sure you are doing what you should now to ensure you wont look like a joke when your time in the lime light is up again. there are mobs comming that nin/mnk/sam/thf wond be able to tank. its just we arnt fighting them for awhile ie only xxx job allowed in my merit party rest not welcome.

yes this is a lil rant cause i am tired of people posting pld's tear forum's and taking up space for more instering things not trying to offend anyone. just keep your swords sharp and your shield at the ready you will be useful again.
#2 Feb 25 2011 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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You could get Chant du Cygne, pile on DD gear/atmas and parse as one of if not THE top DD of the alliance. With crit and triple attack atmas that WS will easily match or better almost any other DD. With RR/GH/apoc I average 2k-3k dmg, with spikes up to 5k. People whine about PLD needing a boost, guess what, WE ALREADY GOT IT!!! With that WS there is no question of keeping hate, you WILL keep hate whether you want to or not. And the real kicker with Chant du Cygne, is that it does a steady 1.5k-1.8k outside of abyssea, so you can keep on top of things there as well. It only took me two weeks to get a Badelaire+2, and if I can do it, anyone can. It really is the absolute best thing that has ever happened to PLD. Plus it does the friggen mark of zorro, how cool is that?

PLD also has quite a bit of use as a red/blue proc person. PLD can hit 9/13 red procs, only one less than WAR's 10/13, and every staff/club blue proc except hexa as well as sword. I do my procs, put on my Badelaire, and kick some serious ***. There's no half-assed DD/healer/backup tank bs for PLD if you put the work in to skill up your weapons and make yourself a CdC sword.

sooo, not to sound like a **** or anything, but if you're trying to find your place as a PLD you're not trying very hard. I know exactly where mine is, at the top of the DD parse, right after I hit red and blue.
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#3 Mar 14 2011 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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ever since pld started to fall behind, i've been trying to find ways to bring it to a useful position, 1 is rather simple, procing blue/red, i'm asked to come pld to most of my ls events because of the wide amount of weapons i can use for procing.

The 2nd one is something i discovered while playing around, TE farming. Get your staff skill up, 290 i think, For cataclysm. depending on the mob, i can get about 10-15 kills in one round, 20-30 if it's something that hit's soft like mandies. i typically use atma of the ulimate, sea daughter and the beyond. while another MAB atma would be nice, i find that sea daughter helps so i'm not completely relying on my acc to gain the tp. The camps i've tryed this on are mandies in tahrongi, mandies in altepa, mandies/apkallu in miscareaux, and Chigoe/mandies in atthowa chasm.
some of the more difficult camps that require a bit of skill and utilizing JAs are scorpians/Coeurl in tahrongi, wivre/leeches/goobue in konschtat, and birds in Miscareaux.

Some of the things that make this work alot better is having enhancing magic capped with merits, capped staff skill, and about -30~35% pdt. I never really switch out gear for WS and TPing, i just keep one set, because the Lag can get you killed. my record so far for TEs in a 6hr farming is 990min, probably would be higher but typically i build amber lights up after i get to the 150min mark for KIs.

as for subjob, it depends on what your killing, if the mobs link or aggro, definally go /sam. if it's like mandies in tahrongi which don't link or aggro, i go /rdm, gives a slight MAB, stoneskin to prevent interruptions, and dia/bio/diaga for rounding up the mobs.

i'd also like to add that this is only slightly slower then a war burn (at least for me), but the key difference is rather then having pullers, healers, phalanx2 person, maybe nukers. it's all in one. I pull, i use phalanx, i heal myself and i do all the Damage. oh and i build all the lights solo. i did this for my twashtar, invited a bunch of people from my ls to hold KIs for me and told them they could leech their jobs. I never ask for payment cause if i'm burning it's because there's something i want from the zone.

Edited, Mar 14th 2011 1:15pm by cycerathzero

Edited, Mar 14th 2011 1:17pm by cycerathzero
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#4 Mar 14 2011 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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sevynwarr wrote:
Or...

You could get Chant du Cygne, pile on DD gear/atmas and parse as one of if not THE top DD of the alliance. With crit and triple attack atmas that WS will easily match or better almost any other DD. With RR/GH/apoc I average 2k-3k dmg, with spikes up to 5k. People whine about PLD needing a boost, guess what, WE ALREADY GOT IT!!! With that WS there is no question of keeping hate, you WILL keep hate whether you want to or not. And the real kicker with Chant du Cygne, is that it does a steady 1.5k-1.8k outside of abyssea, so you can keep on top of things there as well. It only took me two weeks to get a Badelaire+2, and if I can do it, anyone can. It really is the absolute best thing that has ever happened to PLD. Plus it does the friggen mark of zorro, how cool is that?

PLD also has quite a bit of use as a red/blue proc person. PLD can hit 9/13 red procs, only one less than WAR's 10/13, and every staff/club blue proc except hexa as well as sword. I do my procs, put on my Badelaire, and kick some serious ***. There's no half-assed DD/healer/backup tank bs for PLD if you put the work in to skill up your weapons and make yourself a CdC sword.

sooo, not to sound like a **** or anything, but if you're trying to find your place as a PLD you're not trying very hard. I know exactly where mine is, at the top of the DD parse, right after I hit red and blue.



CdC is a very nice WS but if you are outparsing WARs,MNKs and NINs then you need to find better people to play with. PLD doesn't have the gear, traits or JAs to keep up with top end DDs.
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#5 Mar 16 2011 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Here are some things that may actually expand a Paladin's repertoire without having to spend months for one Weapon Skill or attempting to imitate another job class:

*Club/Great Sword. Level these skills if you haven't already. You'll be sought after for 2/3 of the Blue !! windows and many more Red !! weaknesses.

*Use that Great Sword for some melee action. If you don't want to spend gil on one, Sombrelame +2 does very well even if you choose something other than the Fire road. It also helps to mix melee Atma with tank Atma (SS+VV+RR, for example). Besides, what do you care about pulling hate? You're a Paladin. You live for it.

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#6 Mar 16 2011 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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AriesMCMLXXIII wrote:
*Club/Great Sword. Level these skills if you haven't already. You'll be sought after for 2/3 of the Blue !! windows and many more Red !! weaknesses.
Staff as well (and polearm for red, but that's really low skill, so I'd be surprised if someone did not have that already).
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#7 Apr 28 2011 at 8:00 PM Rating: Default
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ok i made this post and this changed my mind. Give mad respect and think this is what every PLD should strive for!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZp4Q244Vsw -this is fell cleave method score 8/10 only cause they cant pearl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oKh0yEGC2M -this is just sick and 10/10 for this


Edited, Apr 28th 2011 10:02pm by MrSka681

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#8 Apr 29 2011 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
No joke.

With beyond/ultimate/mountedchamp you can do 2000+ herc slashes w/ either merc swords 2-4x or prestalames 2-4x greatsword. You can switch it up if you want more MAB over vit on herc slash, but the regen helps also. Not to mention WS every 3 rounds or so.

Pretty good for the low dmg power of sword, but beyond will help enlight do ~15dmg more which is a pretty good jump.
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