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#1 May 26 2011 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Is the Occ attacks 2-4 times Khanda +2 worth having for offhand when dual-wielding? I'm interested in getting one for the tp boost but i'm wondering if thats the best sword for a job I.E. the best sword to offhand if using Almace or Badelaire 2?

Seems like with enlight particularly for the duration of it fighting a normal mob, the proc effect on 2-4x hits would be stronger than the seemingly much harder to build, occassionally attacks twice version.

Any thoughts?
#2 May 26 2011 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe the general consensus on the 2-4 is that it hurts more than it helps due to the high delay and low damage. I don't know if this holds true outside Abyssea but inside they lose because of DA/TA Atma.

TP Bonus Swords don't work in offhand slot. Not sure about WS Damage or STP options.
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#3 May 26 2011 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh ok. Well if thats the case, yeah i'm wondering about for outside of abyssea. So I still want to know that.

Also if multi-hit swords offhand aren't good, what would be good for offhand, honorbound?
#4 May 26 2011 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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Honorbound, STR or DEX path Magian Swords are good as well. Obvsiously as the level caps rise the Magians will keep getting better but Honorbound will lose some of its luster.
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#5 May 26 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok thanks for the helpful replies. I will probably use the multi-hit weapons outside of abyssea and honorbound or another weapon inside.
#6 May 27 2011 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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I built a 2-4 Khanda +2 for my BLU (the tp gain comes in handy when dual wielding and prepping for CA+SC), but I've only used it twice on my PLD. Both were for Avatar gil making runs - the 2-4 shines through there because of enspells, which are a major source of damage on the Avatars. It just loses a lot of luster as a main hand sword. I'd consider off-handing it to an Almace if I were dual-wielding, but that's about it.

The main swords I use now are either my Joyeuse or my Honorbound, depending on circumstances and personal feel.
#7 May 27 2011 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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Does +30 delay really make that much of a difference?
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#8 May 27 2011 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
You can build a nice Sanguine Sword build w/ it and it will shine.
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#9 May 27 2011 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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xypin wrote:
Does +30 delay really make that much of a difference?

On the 2-4 its actually a few things not just the +30 delay.

1. DA/TA from gear and Atma have dropped the value of Occasionally Attack X weapons because they don't work together (Jailer weapons are the exception to this of course). This is honestly the biggest factor as you can get DA +5-10% (depends if you use VV, add 10% if /WAR) and a TA rate of 15-30% (you "should" at least be using Apocalypse or Alpha/Omega)

2. Joyeuse DMG: 35, Khanda +2 OA2-4 DMG: 29, Shamshir +2 DMG: 54. 6 less DMG from the "old favorite" and 25 less than Shamshir +2. The 6 isn't a big deal but the 25 is, it puts the swords on very different levels when it comes to damage (not counting the STR/Atk benefits from fire path)

3. Joyeuse has a 45% proc rate, and Khanda +2 has roughly a 60% 2-4 proc rate (50%~ of that will be a double). These numbers are what I've seen from others' testing not my own.

4. Joyeuse Delay: 224 , Khanda +2 OA2-4 Delay: 264, Shamshir +2 Delay: 230 So a 40 delay compared to Joyeuse and a 34 difference with the Shamshir +2, this isn't "huge" but keep in mind dual wielders generally aim for lowest delay/high damage ratio. Khanda +2 is high delay/low damage compared to other options.


Edited, May 27th 2011 8:52am by Zagen
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#10 Jul 13 2011 at 2:11 AM Rating: Decent
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SeraphTacosnak wrote:
You can build a nice Sanguine Sword build w/ it and it will shine.

Exactly, it's positively amazing. Dual wield it with a Joyeuse mainhand, go for a nice shield (Or i guess Khanda +2 and +1 if that's possible).
With the right atma's (and a little bit of luck on multi's), you can hit stuff up with a 2000+ Sanguine Blade atleast every 6 seconds. Which also heals you for a good 1000. You'd be an unstoppable fortress of swinging defensive power. You'd have to fight something really crazy for this not to work.
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#12 Aug 11 2011 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Zagen wrote:
TP Bonus Swords don't work in offhand slot. Not sure about WS Damage or STP options.


I can't see why it would be different for swords (maybe it is..some SE crazy coding?) But TP bonus daggers work in the offhand slot.

Are you sure of this?

Edit:

Bleh, just noticed I responded to a month old necropost. Please ignore if this has been covered.

Edited, Aug 11th 2011 6:16am by Nebo1
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