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#102 Nov 04 2006 at 7:33 PM Rating: Default
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lol...... you can do as you plz. I stated my claim, you have no way to fight it, you can't even make a decent argument against me.
And you can post all you want, your just helping my thread get more replies and become even bigger <(^,^)b
#103 Nov 04 2006 at 8:50 PM Rating: Default
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Just got back from my jog. Someone wrote back!

Ok, you're right. I'm wrong. DRK shouldn't have sword capped. We need to follow this thread exactly the way you have it or else we are less than average. People that think my way or the highway are always right. There's never any grey inbetween.

I'm glad you think you are so superior that you don't even consider anyone elses opinion.
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#104 Nov 04 2006 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't believe I missed all of this. D: Oh well, Renz and Disifer have basically said everything needed to be said.


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No one will continue to post anything about you, I couldn't really care less. You stated your opinion, almost everyone disagrees with you, end of discussion. But I did love when you played the "it's my money I'll play how I want" card in a topic talking about the best way to play a job. It's great that you want to play your way, but there is only one way to be the best.
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#105 Nov 05 2006 at 3:35 AM Rating: Good
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If you want to be all technical, instead of a comma after failed, there should be a semi-colon


Actually, if you really want to be technical, since I'm an ELA minor and Adversiting major, it could be both. Post all you want, nobody cares and nobody has any want/need to attack you;, you're wrong on some things, you're right on others, big deal. Your "opinion" was considered despite the way you presented it, it gives info about other weapons, subjobs, choices, etc. Can you sub NIN at 75 and DW? Of course, but you're not going to outdamage yourself if you were subbing NIN w/a Scythe. Do you have to use Tredecim Scythe? Nope, but for 95% of DRK's its better than using another one, alot of it is playing still. Theres many ways to play DRK, ****, I don't even follow the guide completely, either does Renzou, its just a over-simplification of things due to lack of time. In time, it'll be completed, but as you are with High School, I'm busy with college, work and training; as for Renzou...well shes just Renzou Smiley: grin

Another thing for you to note is that alot of the people who have 1k+ posts have had there account for a year or more. I'd like to see when mine started, I think its been over 2 years easily but I could be wrong. Will check back later when I wake up at 3 or so. GO CHIEFS.

Edited, Nov 5th 2006 at 3:40am PST by Disifer
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#106 Nov 05 2006 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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/shout: Whatever typed is said to everyone in a long range. Defeniately not good to macro, unless your selling items the whole world does not need to know your doing Souleater >,>.


I have a joke souleater macro that is six macros long, you just gave me evil ideas. :D
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#107 Nov 05 2006 at 9:18 PM Rating: Default
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Youngjin wrote:
Just got back from my jog. Someone wrote back!

Ok, you're right. I'm wrong. DRK shouldn't have sword capped. We need to follow this thread exactly the way you have it or else we are less than average. People that think my way or the highway are always right. There's never any grey inbetween.

I'm glad you think you are so superior that you don't even consider anyone elses opinion.


Were on my guide does it say "follow this thread exactly the way you have it or else we are less than average"? A guide is simply a guide, a means to help you on your way, the basics of how to do the job, to be better then average is to already have a full understanding of the job before you reach the peak of your DRK career. Most ppl don't know how to play the job, therefore the average DRK doesn't know how to perform the best, this guide helps you perform better then your average idiot.

Aside that, all you can argue about was sword when I said you can level sword for spirits within, but for use of piercing give me a god **** good reason you should use a Piercing piece of **** sword over a greatsword that doesn't have slash but instead blunt dmg? Sea mobs that resist slash, can be hurt by blunt can't they? OMG!!! You have no valid argument, you have opinions and thats great, play the way you want. But you have no valid argument against Me + Disifers guide(along with a bit of tweaks and adds from Ferriion, skyra, etc..). What you say is "better" can be subbed by another weapon or job or whatnot and still outperform what you specify as being needed.

When you have a valid argument against me or disifer, then come back to me. Until then go jog some more, or go to sleep, or go to class or w/e, or even continue to post your opinions. Everyone else posted their opinions here and they didn't get shot down, the reason you got shot down was because of your know-it-all attitude coming onto this forum thinking you can throw your weight around because you got sword capped on DRK. Woot woot. If you came on with a different approach, maybe you would have gotten a different kind of response.
#108 Nov 06 2006 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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I have NIN, RDM, WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, SAM, THF, BST, and RNG all leveled to sub if the occasion calls for it. Why be mediocre and have just DRK/THF or DRK/WAR


You know what I hate? I hate people who, for the sake of their lives, cannot accept other people's success. It's almost like a high school student trying to debunk a PhD's work. Here's a tip, Youngjin, G.R.O.W U.P!
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#109 Nov 07 2006 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I have NIN, RDM, WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, SAM, THF, BST, and RNG all leveled to sub if the occasion calls for it. Why be mediocre and have just DRK/THF or DRK/WAR


You know what I hate? I hate people who, for the sake of their lives, cannot accept other people's success. It's almost like a high school student trying to debunk a PhD's work. Here's a tip, Youngjin, G.R.O.W U.P!


Does the "G.R.O.W U.P." thing you types have an abbreviation or something lol, or did you just add the periods between each letter for the **** of it >,>;; idk i'm bored so i asked lol
#110 Nov 07 2006 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Renz, got a Ragnarok yet? D:

Close?

Going to throw me all your old weapons when you've got that?

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#111 Nov 07 2006 at 11:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I am close currency wise but took a long break from dynamis so don't got the weapon items. As for my weapons. When I get Ragnarok Yes I will prolly hand down my Balmung, Balin's, Martial, and Gold Algol+1 to my friend Bloodnangel.
#112 Nov 08 2006 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I think Rutter Sabatons deserves a mention in WS gear for the feet.

Edit: A few other things that I feel deserve a mention are Dusk Gloves, Dusk feet, Walhara Turban, Swift and Speed Belt. A good haste build can take you a long way. Just put in that haste gear is only good if you have other haste gear to stack it with.

Edited, Nov 8th 2006 at 12:48am PST by DarkKnightZero
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#113 Nov 08 2006 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Renz, you're trying to get a Ragnarok? Do you already have an Apocalypse or something? Dont tell me you're going Greatsword over Scythe!!

I'll cut-choo >=(
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#114 Nov 08 2006 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
Would I be correct in assuming that it's only possible to get 1 reward from the "In the name of Science" quest? So, only get the Snow Gorget? O can you save for two?
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#115 Nov 08 2006 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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renzoukan wrote:
evilrsmkii wrote:
youngjin wrote:
I have NIN, RDM, WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, SAM, THF, BST, and RNG all leveled to sub if the occasion calls for it. Why be mediocre and have just DRK/THF or DRK/WAR


You know what I hate? I hate people who, for the sake of their lives, cannot accept other people's success. It's almost like a high school student trying to debunk a PhD's work. Here's a tip, Youngjin, G.R.O.W U.P!



Does the "G.R.O.W U.P." thing you types have an abbreviation or something lol, or did you just add the periods between each letter for the **** of it >,>;; idk i'm bored so i asked lol


Just for the **** of it.
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#116 Nov 08 2006 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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So, only get the Snow Gorget? O can you save for two?


I think you can get as many gorgets as you want.

Edit: Noticed a spelling mistake almost a day after I made this post.

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 9:58am PST by Ferriion
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#117 Nov 09 2006 at 1:48 AM Rating: Good
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So, only get the Snow Gorget? O can you save for two?


I think you can get as many gorgets as your want.


Cool, if that's the case, I think the Breeze Gorget looks nice for Great Sword. Also, since I have the thought that I should probably, when all is capped and good on Scythe and Great Sword, work on Great Axe, it works for Steel Cyclone.

Would that be a good second choice? Or should I look for another?
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#118 Nov 09 2006 at 4:14 AM Rating: Good
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Breeze will effect ground strike, spinning slash, and steel cylone(also savage blade if anyone really cares).

Aqua will effect Cross Reaper, Spiral ****, Ground Strike, steel cyclone, and decimation, but since snow already covers all those things except decimation, and you should never be in a position where you have to use decimation, theres not too much point to bothering with it.



If you're looking for a gorget to get after snow, look at what other jobs you might level eventually. Spinning slash is covered by both breeze and thunder, so its up to you which organs you want to collect. The other big weaponskills affected by breeze are dancing edge, slugwinder, and blade: jin, while the ones covered by impaction are raging fists, dragon kick, and blade: jin.


edit: Playing devil's advocate for a moment

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Please give me one situation, post 60, where having sword, axe, and great axe capped will benefit your party in any way.


Well as for axe or greataxe I couldn't honestly say since you excluded skillchains already(plus I agree with you on that end).

But sword?


I can think of one reason, but if its an option you probably don't need to be reading this guide.


Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 4:23am PST by ArchangelLBC
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#119 Nov 09 2006 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I can think of one reason, but if its an option you probably don't need to be reading this guide.


I should have put something saying excluding Riddill, even that is a very controversial subject though. I'm very interested to see how a Riddill will perform with war sub instead of nin, which is the only sub that I personally have heard tests being done with.
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#120 Nov 09 2006 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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I've been wondering how it would do with war sub vs drg sub but either way you'd probably die anywhere outside mire and in all setups not including rdm brd whm.
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#121 Nov 10 2006 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes I will prolly hand down my Balmung, Balin's, Martial, and Gold Algol+1 to my friend Faramir.


Fixed ^-^!

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You have a Gold Algol+1 o.o? What do you do with it lol? And what do you do with Balmung :s?

Wouldn't Subduer and Balin's squish all of those? XD
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I really don't understand the mentality that Ridill = death.

I mean, i do but it's like...

If you can get a ridill, chances are your gear is to the notch that you're pulling hate constantly, (keeping in mind that with said gear, partying with someone notably lesser than yourself would cause you to pull hate anyway. Hence ls statics ;o.) and...if that's the case, whats the difference between pulling hate with a thousand damage, or a million damage? no ones going to be able to regain the hate from you before the mob dies anyway.


Edited, Nov 10th 2006 at 7:52am PST by Basilxii
#123 Nov 10 2006 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Very true Basil, but we're now talking about using a Riddill without shadows, so now you have nothing protecting you once the mob does turn towards you. Not to mention that using a multi-hit weapon with Souleater is going to make your mages cry, even if the mob is attacking some one else.
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#124 Nov 10 2006 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Not to mention that using a multi-hit weapon with Souleater is going to make your mages cry, even if the mob is attacking some one else.


Who can ever forget their first Souleater + Guillotine with all four hits and a DA proc? Got to love going from white to orange in a matter of seconds. XD
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Not to mention that using a multi-hit weapon with Souleater is going to make your mages cry, even if the mob is attacking some one else.


Who can ever forget their first Souleater + Guillotine with all four hits and a DA proc? Got to love going from white to orange in a matter of seconds. XD


...and yet I still do it from time to time just to give my friends a hard time (healers). A bored DRK is a dangerous thing, not only to himself but the MP pool of a healer. XD
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Can we please sticky this?
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