DRK/SCHFollow

GTFO.

Ah thanks for the response.

So far /SCH is great. I am finding when subbing /war or /sam I pull hate off a tank, even a paladin, pretty easily. I end up taking more damage than is needed and causing the healer to have to focus on me and waste mana which in turn kills exp rates. This is the main reason I wanted to avoid subbing another power house sub. When I used to play (back in 2006) one of my real life friends played a DRK and took it to 75. He pretty much died every time he used a WS. This is without Soul Eater or Last Resort. Just Berserk from his SJ. That really turned me off from the class.

I am noticing with /SCH that I have a lot more survivability. While my damage is still ontop of the party, I am not doing such crazy damage that I have to worry about pulling hate. Even IF i do pull hate with something (i.e. normally very high drains and last resort cause large hate), I can keep myself alive long enough for the tank to get it off me and put less stress onto the healer.

Just seems like people are still pigeon holed into thinking, "RAWR I R DRK I R NOTHING BUT DMG!" and if that's how you want to be represented then fine. I personally like to bring a little more to the table than just raw damage output, and DRK will let you do that if you don't ignore that.

Xypin you brought up everything I was thinking about that made /SCH good for a DRK. I know most of that is higher level but even at 30 I am noticing the benefits. Especially when part of a PUG that doesn't really have strong organization or gear. Being able to hand out -na's and protects/heals is a great thing. And yes, using Dark Arts gives me a very solid boost in enfeeb. I haven't been resisted yet.

I will level a melee sub, don't get me wrong, but personally none of them seem as interesting as DRK. Maybe its because I main SMN and BRD lol.

well maybe I am barking up the wrong tree here. If I wanted to do damage with an option of casting for buffs/enfeebles/nukes.... should I even be playing a DRK? Maybe that's why I am having a hard time with my Sub.


Perhaps I should go RDM/SCH?

Edited, Jun 1st 2011 1:34pm by blindsyde84

i had to check the date on this thread twice.

If you want self healing and sustainment (not necessarily survivability), /DNC is the sub to have. If you want to take less damage, /SAM or /NIN are better choices than /SCH despite whatever idea you might have about hate control.

A dead mob deals no damage.

Your comments about ripping hate off a PLD and dying are pointless. They indicate only that you're using a PLD in a situation you don't actually need one or you PLD just sucks. Abyssea is one of those places and most people still bothering with PLD in Abyssea are the latter as well.

DRK parties hardier than WAR and othe straight DDs for sure. /SCH only gives you status removals over /RDM or /DNC unless you want to piss off a cleave group. /SCH died in my mind when Endark couldn't be made AoE. The only real application is Campaign where you could probably stoneskin+phalanx tank a whole wave now.

The problem is other jobs can do the same thing, but only better. There's also the point of what is needed to assist the group and the group you join. You can try to be inventive and versatile*, but if your extra utility is unnecessary, then no one will take you seriously. I won't lie, DRK/mage can be useful in certain situations, but you cannot expect the combo to revolutionize the game.

I should also mention your level range has a huge impact. What is best at level 15 is not always the same as what is best at level 55 or level 90. Had you mentioned only being level 30 or something, /COR would have been suggested.

Probably your three best job options right now are RDM, DRK, and DRG (mostly healing support though). If all you want to do is supply a party with de/buffs, then RDM is is a good choice. You even be able to use your elemental magic, but you'll rarely be allowed to melee in any pick up party. If you want to make melee damage your primary focus, then I'd stick with DRK. Conform to the status quo for those that demand it and bust out whatever combo you want while soloing or working on low man activities within your linkshell. Pick up groups will never be the place be "inventive." Sorry, it's just far easier to stick with what we know works than entertain some random person about how their job combo is the greatest.



*Being versatile includes having a wide selection of sub jobs available, even if you love one specific job combo.

you should never be surprised when you're kicked out of anything for using an inappropriate job combination. just because you think "something new" has to work doesn't mean a) other people agree, or b) that you're right.

seriously, if you use a weird job combo, that on its own is fine and your choice, but if you start getting even the tiniest bit upset that other people don't approve or that you're not invited to do any event with it, you're doing something very very wrong. the world doesn't need to bend to your understanding of it. when you start getting indignant that this isn't happening--even in a video game--you're making a huge and grave mistake.

DRK/SCH? Is that like the DRK that's sufficiently emo to actually keep a diary instead of use Livejournal?