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#27 Mar 03 2012 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Shells come from the Voidwalker NM Krabkatoa. You buy a KI then have to track down invisible NMs using /heal. Each /heal gives you a distance to the nearest NM, which can move. After each kill, there is a chance your KI will level up. You need a level 3 KI to pop Krabkatoa, which is lost when you pop.

The stingers drop from a 15 min timed NM in Abyssea. It's an easy NM and some jobs can solo it, but should not need more than one other person.

Neo-Nyzul is lame right now- all of the goals are exactly the same as old Nyzul. Differences: you can't save floors and you can choose "random jump" which will move you 2-9 floors up. Instead of feet on floor 20, legs on floor 40, etc., the NQ gear drops on floor 20, +1 on floor 40, and the best is from floor 100, which no one has cleared, afaik.

Not much is out about Legion yet, but it looks to be Einherjar-like, but you've got small waves of HNMs instead of waves of lesser mobs. It is targetted at groups of 18 people.

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#28 Mar 03 2012 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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NeoNyzul Floor 100 has been cleared plenty. Look on BG.
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#29 Mar 03 2012 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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NeoNyzul Floor 100 has been cleared plenty. Look on BG.
Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, but all I've seen is one person clearing floor 100 once by getting incredibly lucky with floor jumps and reaching 100 after 14 jumps.
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#30 Mar 03 2012 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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xypin wrote:
and the best is from floor 100, which no one has cleared


More than once, at very least. Enough times to prove it's possible.
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Screenshots? or thread?

Also, overshooting floor 100 doesn't count- overshooting means the group didn't have enough time to climb to 100. This will change next update, of course.

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Most of the problem with not hitting 100 is shying away from using the random jump as you get close, so there's still too much luck in it. Jem and her crew have been getting there in 14-16 jumps consistently using Embrava and whatnot, but have wrapped past 100 with at least 3-5 minutes left, enough to boss and lot, something like four times now.

When you can lock in what floor you want to stop on it'll be twice a week these groups hit a 100.
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When you can lock in what floor you want to stop on it'll be twice a week these groups hit a 100.
Exactly.
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#34 Mar 04 2012 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
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#35 May 21 2012 at 9:53 PM Rating: Decent
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OAT GS = Ragnarok > Apoc > Umiliati (Penitence +4) > WSDmg/TPBonus GS > Borealis = 2-4 GS = OAT Scythe > 2-4 Scythe > WSDmg/TPbonus Scythes > Gram/Jingang = Caladbolg lv90 > Redemption lv90 = Wroth/Twilight


This was written in Feb, was wondering if your opinions have changed with the availability of Neo-Nyzul gear, or any other recent additions?
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#36 May 21 2012 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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Weapon ranking still stands as it was in February.
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#37 May 22 2012 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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I'm close enough to taste glory:
9/10 Krab shells
10/10 Stingers
11/20 Nuggets
Still need to kill an evening in Bastion
All the dominion point items
27 Mirrors (this is going to wreck the bank)
150/150 Rift Sand

Leveling BST on a dime was embarassing to Epeen but so so sosososososososo worth it to help find pretty things for DRK that would otherwise take a party...or a better friendslist lol. For instance, the only people willing to do Krabkatoa are other DRKs, who want your stuff :-(
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#38 May 23 2012 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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Made progress last night finishing the Krabkatoa, Stinger and Mikey trials. Finally have OAT! Only about 75 dmg in this form but **** still. Dud bastion all night but only hit 11/30 daybreak souls.
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#39 May 26 2012 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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This just in, Raelix's math is doubted.
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#40 May 26 2012 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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xypin wrote:

It wasn't math. It was a concise analysis of key factors of utility, obtainability, and probably lastly damage.

As my final reply in that thread: I'd rather have nine other OAT DRK friends than a Ragnarok.
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I'd rather gave OaT GS and Apocalypse :) Best of both worlds ^^ War best served with Ukonvasara XD
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Btw, for Bastion, if you have access to DRG, it's super easy to Drakesbane spam all monsters and heal yourself with the wyvern in between fights ^^ And how's Raelix progress on OaT? :P Starting OaT polearm shortly for DRG, 150 mirrors and riftsands mine already ;) At least I can solo T3 Blob on BST compared to the **** crab for GS!!!
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#43 May 27 2012 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Same as I was, since I haven't played since the last time I mentioned. Just need Krab and about 20 more mirrors.
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#44 May 27 2012 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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I'm down to needing 59 mirrors ;_;
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{Fulgurante}...it is mine!

inb4 people still invite Calda DRKs over me in VW
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Start your own shouts, that way you can showcase your OaT and ppl gonna drop the whole Cala incindent ^^
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Turns out I have 143 mirrors, lawl. I think I do remember buying a dozen from an LS mate before taking my break.

Looks like we get to start working on Neo Nyzul groups and go whaling.

Porthos Byrnie
Hagneia Stone
Bale Earring
Ogier's Gauntlets
Rajas Ring
Tyrant's Ring
Rose Strap
Phos Belt
Dauntless Mantle
Fulgurante (OAT)
Brutal Earring
Houyi's Gorget
Phorcys Salade
Phorcys Dirs
Phorcys Schuhs

25 haste, +41 STP, /SAM makes 5-hit (WS in +5 STP), +53 Acc after DEX.

Good luck on the belt though. You can use Goading, Bomblet, and some 3% haste feet though. Ghadhab Nails would be first choice and are easy enough to get compared to the rest.

So:

Porthos Byrnie
Fire Bomblet
Bale Earring
Ogier's Gauntlets
Rajas Ring
Tyrant's Ring
Rose Strap
Goading Belt
Dauntless Mantle
Fulgurante (OAT)
Brutal Earring
Houyi's Gorget
Phorcys Salade
Phorcys Dirs
Ghadhab Nails

26% Haste, +58 STP /SAM, solid 5-hit, still rocking +47 accuracy.

Edited, May 29th 2012 1:47pm by Raelix

Edited, May 29th 2012 1:48pm by Raelix
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What about swaping Ace's Mail, Pole Grip and Blitz Ring in for Porthos Byrnie, Tyrants Ring and Rose strap?

You would lose 2% Triple Attack and 8 stp, bringing you down to +50, but isn't that still within the threshold for 5 hitting?

You would remain 26% Haste(I know Blitz Ring is not 1 full % of haste but I still think it brings you to the funky amount needed to get True Cap does it not?) and gain 18 STR, 12 ACC, 3 ATT, 2% Double Attack.

Inb4 "Busa, you need to lose your ***** for your Blitz Ring and just move on with your life".
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The last point of haste, which is actually 0.586% haste, doesn't really matter compared to closing the hitbuild consistently, nor has it really ever mattered except in the realm of theorycraft 'infinite hp mob in a vacuum', nor is it really ever a factor because any time you get two magical sources that that half point of haste would matter you'll just hit 80% total cap anyway.

It mattered before the 80% total cap, now it's just an old half-baked habit to kick. It's not worth taking over Store TP or most other stats, but if you do incidentally hit 26% it's fine to keep.

Pole grip can GTFO too. You're swinging an OAT weapon. It has almost no value whatsoever.

50 STP only gives you 19.5/hit, so needing 22 return from WS. Reso has a 22.6% 'miss one' rate compared to the 18.5% you're used to with Guillo/Entropy, so miss tolerance is a tad more important. WSing in +30 only nets you 20.8, but +39 still leaves you a tenth short, and +40 is just even more prohibitive of a WS set.

The reason getting to 5-hit is important is because it's an actual reduction in round count. When you go from 7-hit to 6-hit your minimum rounds per cycle is still 3. When you break into 5-hit your minimum round count drops to 2, much like 2-4 opens up a one-round chance, and naturally your maximum round count drops to 4, resulting in a much more effective change in average rounds per cycle.

.4 * .4 = 16% chance of 2-round
.6 ^ 4 = 12.96% chance of 4-round
Leaves.71% chance of 3-round

2.1312 + 0.32 + 0.5184 = 2.9696 average hits per round.

That set is all about making up the haste loss from using Ogier's Gauntlets, and apparently Bismarck isn't as stingy about giving out Porthos as some of the other body drops can be.

Edited, May 29th 2012 6:25pm by Raelix
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So if the point of it all is to accept rose/tyrants into your life, I'm more than willing to accept this.

Would the Aces body still be better than Porthos since the last bit of haste isn't so important and the triple attack isn't super important with OAT? I mean...all that ******* STR and ACC....also I totally have Aces and never want to give it up.

Also, nyzul group yes please. I say that as Im afk watching tv with the wife ;_; lol
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#51 May 29 2012 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Hoard Ring is fine too.

In the second set, Ace's over Porthos is fine. I just stuck to Porthos for the Triple Attack and Accuracy and the whole set having a bit of a reduced tp feed vibe which is nice to point out when swinging OAT. In the first set you're at 25 haste so you're kinda dying for it.
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