Sharpshot. Bleh. ~Ranty~ "tldr"Follow

Ranty McRantRant.

I'm tired of Sharpshot, It's not doing me justice anymore.

Can someone please tell me the point of it!? It's suppose remove those racc distance penatalties right? Well it doesn't do sh*t.

From 1 to like 50, that Ability was ballin', But somewhere down the road it decided to go: "You know what man? Your sh*t and your friends think your gay, So i'm not going to do what i'm suppose to anymore and screw with you"

I guess I just expect it to land my shots when i need them to land, Wait a minute, thats what its suppose to help with!

There has to be something wrong with it. I don't even bother to couple Sharpshot with Barrage anymore, I just pop a barrage and let it fly, consistently landing most if not all hits.
Then theres the off chance I think "I really need this barrage to hit for the TP" or "I really need this Sidewinder to hit to save some ass" It kicks you in the nuts and laughs in your face as you see the dreaded 0tp return followed by the "You miss your shot so your a dickhead"

Sharpshot Aka @#%^ing Unreliable Bullsh*t. "That sh*t is FUB son"

I just finished up a meripo, and just got sick to death of it, decided to burn your eyes with my filth of a thread.

Maybe it is a straight ACC+.

I've been equally disappointed of late with Sharpshot. There are parties where I swear its doing the opposite. I'll only miss Slug when sharpshot is up and barrages will remain flakily unreliable. After 2-3 hrs of that crap, I want to break my OBow.

Sharpshot should be re-designed to actually make shots hit the 95% acc cap. It's only a minute every 5 min, how overpowered could that really be? Most of us are near that acc cap anyways when we choose to be.

i dont really see that it works to well. seems to me my barrage&sharpshot is not as accurate as my normal shots. but barrage doesn't have a penalty to acc (or it doesn't say it does.) one would think that this would mean barrage would be even more accurate then a normal shot with sharp shot. but it's not.=(

Ability: Sharpshot
Recast: 5:00

Draw's more attention to you before you miss.

Wut?

Let's say Sharpshot gave you a straight increase of 20 R.Acc.

Let's also say you start off with a base hit rate of 50% (which would not be uncommon at lower levels for lack of much r.acc gear). Adding 20 r.acc to that will increase your hit rate to 60% (going from crappy to crappy), which is a 20% incease in DoT. But it is a 10 percentage point increase in hit rate.

Now let's say you start off with a base hit rate of 85%. Adding 20 r.acc to that would increase your hit rate to 95% (going from good to great) which is a ~11.8% increase in DoT. But it is STILL a 10 percentage point increase in hit rate.

The difference in DoT is huge, but the difference in likelihood of you missing is exactly the same no matter what base hit rate you start from. So if Sharpshot takes you from missing a lot to "OMG ACC" at low levels, a straight r.acc increase won't explain it.

Yes I just used those numbers as an example. In any case, whether you go from 130 to 150 r.acc or 380 to 400 r.acc, your hit rate will still increase 10% either way. Neither one of them is going to make you go from missing like crazy to hitting all the time. The extra number of arrows that will hit instead of miss is exactly the same in either example.

Edited, Jun 5th 2009 6:11pm by KaishenRamuh

I feel your pain, but I don't really felt like it ever did anything except when I had a pretty bad hitrate on things. I have heard that it supposedly removes the distance penalty for ranged attacks but I can't remember if that was something official or just hearsay. All it is now is something that happens to go off when I hit barrage macro that may or may not help. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a straight 20/30 acc like focus.

Hmmmm. I dont think that is true. 10RAcc is always +5% hitrate. I think characters in general have worse Acc at lower levels than higher levels mainly due to Sushi's effect increasing as base Acc increases (at 100 base acc you only get +7.5% hitrate, while at 300 base Acc, you recieve +22.5% hitrate) as well as gear that actually has stats on it.

Attack is a whole different matter. 10Att at low levels is HUGE. +10 Att to 50 base Att is ~20% more damage, whereas 10Acc at that level will still only give you +5% hitrate (at least 5% more damage, maybe up to 10% on exp mobs at that level). I dont really start thinking about Acc (food and gearwise) until about 40.

Im not sure what level RAcc rings get better than Mighty Rings, but I would probably swap to them around that level anyways (as well as start eating sushi instead of rice dumpling or other meat).

first i've heard of that. testing?

if RACC is like ACC, 2RACC adds 1 to your RACC%, regardless of level (say you hit for 75% ACC, then added 2RACC, you'd hit for 76% ACC).

as for sharpshot, i don't know exactly what it does, but it would be fairly obvious if it multiplied your RACC by a significant %... testing sharpshot would be an enormous pain in the ass though, and i don't like to accept any eyeball testimony for stuff like that. its duration is short enough that i don't see too big a requirement to know exactly what it does, honestly. though, my RNG is only on its way up, so what do i know.

Edited, Jun 12th 2009 2:27pm by milich

I've heard it before, too. My understanding is that ACC+2=hitrate+1% only applies after your ACC is equal to mob EVA (at which point your accuracy is 75%). You should be able to reverse this formula and confirm it with whatever numbers you already have for capped accuracy vs. a given mob.

If the scale were linear all the way down, low-level characters' accuracy would be drastically different, I think.

My connection speed at my new place is too slow to test anything, as the lag causes me to miss info in the chat log. Well that, and the only weapon I have below 240 skill is my capped Katana on a 37 NIN.