RNG 2011Follow

Same argument, different circumstance.

Edited, Feb 15th 2011 3:55pm by Noodles

I have far more greater priorities in my list of things to get than atmas that will support my healing role as RDM. I acted as sole healer on RDM for MNK tank once. Most of my RDM time is spent soloing. I typically play RNG and COR as mains. I have a huge list of things I want to get done for those jobs. Then I'll think about rounding out my RDM atma.

And while dynamis lord may be easier to kill these days, its not like pickup groups are spending 500k for the thrill of trying. If I run across one, I'll try to tag along.
It doesn look like Harmony is not that challengign to get, but again healing atma for RDM aren't big on my priority list.

Silly me reading a thread on the Rng forum titled "Rng 2011" and expecting it to be about rng. The job is so forgotten these days that even our forum is doing other jobs.

It's lazy to prioritize other things over healing atma for RDM, a job I rarely play? Hmmm. How do you figure that? While I'm busy trying to get my Aby wins, Caturae finished, +1 seals, +2 items, magian trial weapons, helping LS mates with their important things, I'm somehow lazy if I don't rush out and immediately get the atma that will make my RDM a better healer.
TBH,the only thing that will make my RDM a better healer is freaking Cure V (hear that SE).
The problem is not laziness but time limited play and other priorities.



I will admit to leading a fairly circuitous rambling argumentative thread and not being terribly clear.
To restate: It's not fun Cure IVing a MNK with 4k HP. No matter what your atma, you spend a lot of time just casting Cure IV over and over again. That can generate a lot of hate. Having -enm is helpful. On my RDM I used atma of MM and Allure to cap -enm because I don't have a ton of -enm gear and I don't have a lot of great mage atma. I was appreciative of the capped -enm those atma provided the one time I had to spam Cure IV a monk tank. When I have completed my wish list for RNG and COR, I will definitely need to get some better curing atma and gear for RDM (although I have some other needs for RDM like Atmas of Apocalypse and Beyond, +1 seals, +2 items, magian swords and staves).

Hope that clarifies my position and I didn't really take offense until personal attacks like "lazy" and "irresponsible" came out. None of you know me and know what my RL schedule is. You don't know how my LS runs and what priorities we have. For me the game is escapism from a challenging 60 hr a week job. I whittle away at my goals at the pace I can provide. I'm sure its slow for many of you, but its no reason to make personal judgements about my character.

Yes, it is laziness because all of that stuff can be done by shouting to set up your own runs. If you still need it it's because you're waiting for someone else to shout and set that sh*t up for you and not doing it yourself.
Any time you are sitting in jeuno waiting for a shout you want, you could also be doing other things too.
Not only is it laziness but it's supidity too: Why do the long and hard stuff first then leave the easy upgrades till last? Use your brain and get the piss easy stuff out the way first and then focus on the longer or more difficult stuff.

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 2:58am by Noodles

Because Atma of Apocalypse doesn't have 15% Triple Attack on it.

Edit: Oh wait, it does.

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 10:01am by Noodles

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were in a linkshell that had events going on during 100% of your playtime. It's obviously going well for you though as you still need zone bosses and seals, as you earlier stated.

You say "I'm doing other stuff like magian trials". That's exactly my earlier point: why spend all your time doing long or hard upgrades first when there is easier stuff you can get quickly first?

If you can't be lazy in a video game then how do you describe someone who sits in jeuno and shouts "what does XYZ atma do?" or "what mob drops ABC seals?" instead of taking a moment to type it into wikipedia. How do you describe someone who decided to AFK in a abyssea exp alliance to go watch TV instead of fighting the mobs and carrying his weight? Just because it's a game does nto mean suddenly all your actions are never lazy.

Also, in the time you've spent reading this topic and replying to me, you could have easilly gone and gotten it. Each time you replied you could have done a Dom OP.

Edit: Oh, and for the record, I don't have Harmony either. But I'm well aware of it, I just haven't been bothered thus far to go get it. I'm just being lazy, and I'm happy to admit it. People need to learn to accept their shortcomings and just get on with life instead of trying too hard to justify everything. Get off the defensive and just accept it.

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 5:44pm by Noodles

We still do old content so sue us. Abyssea is twice a week and I can't always make it due to RL commmitments.



Because the long things are more important and the sooner I get them done the better. Doing easy stuff for something I almost never do seems silly, but I guess you don't see it that way.



PLaying a videogame in first place is being lazy. I should be out hustling my butt to get further ahead in life. But I play because it relaxes me after a stressful day of work. Treating my playtime like a job is the last thing I want to do. DOes that make me lazy? Well maybe in some bizarro world where videogame accomplishments have RL value.



No because I'm at work waiting for my next patient to show up.



Lol. well there you have it. Pots calling kettles black and all that. Fine I admit to laziness and irresponsibility in a videogame. And I just don't give a damn because its a videogame. I thought the attack was at my personality in general. But if you were only insinuating in-game laziness, then I take no offense. I call it different priorities personally. Laziness would be if it was necessary and I had time to do it and still didn't go out and get it. TO me, that's being lazy. But Harmony is a somewhat useful atma that is far down my priority list as it is obviously to you as well.

That's literally what I was getting at. I don't care if you're lazy or not, but just don't deny it.

Also how can you say In-game accomplishments have no RL value? Does it make you happy achieving something in the game? If not then why do you play it? If so then do you not view your own personal happy experiance as being anything of value at all? Do you not value enjoyment?

I most value the fact that with apoc, getting spawnkilled upon accepting your RR doesn't mean you're down and out. After all, if hate is crazy enough to get a back liner killed, chances are it's crazy enough to do it again!