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#1 Jun 08 2013 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
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So I spend way too much time sitting at the Auction House trying to figure out exactly what RUN is supposed to be doing... Are we an evasion tank thats needs to be gearing +EVA? Are we DPS and need to be gearing for STR for Resolution? Or do we need to be gearing dps for +Double/Triple/Quadruple attack? This is annoying, I wish SE would just tell us what our role is. Right now there is no way we are a tank... do not believe it, uh uh. I get my face punched in. So... is everyone else just letting their RUN sit there and wait or are there people that are actually out there gearing it up? and how? Thanks! Sorry for long post but I'm frustrated with this atm. I really like the class but don't know what to do with it
#2 Jun 12 2013 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
SE never tells us our role, they never really have since... maybe Aht Urghan. When it launched, they had their own ideas, but now the community shows them what we need, and they respond

RUN is a tank, but decidedly blink. I have face-tanked enough as it to say that we can bloodtank, but it's not pretty. We aren't DD, we don't have anything to really drive home damage. Lunge, maybe, in the right circumstances, when the stars align. But my Eva is good enough to go toe-to-toe with a good number of mobs. I was in Aby the other night, though, and yea, getting hit SUUUUXXXX.

In the end, RUN is a custom tank, primarily for weak melee casters. We're talking those mobs that end worlds with their spells. I facetanked the T2 and T3 Avatar-style mobs in Grauberg, Miera was annoying, and really I was a waste as even with dark runes up, it really doesn't make a difference. It was facing Gam that I saw my future. Resolution gave me enough damage to hold down hate even with the healer bombing me from time to time. RUN would likely do well with a THF Tricking to hold hate better, or possibly /SAM and try to ride Saigan. Other possibility will be one hander axes after the patch with /NIN, a sort of Magic Resistant WAR blink tank.

But yea, we are eva tanks. Get a MAB set if you want, but with no Lunge time reduction merits, I don't see us as DD's.
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#3 Jun 13 2013 at 7:08 PM Rating: Default
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That being said, Im assuming that we need to role an eva set. One thing that perplexes me now that they have released our merits. Subtle blow on our Swordplay merit? Why would they give us subtle blow on the main ability we will be using to evade attacks.... unless we were a dd and not tank....

Edited, Jun 13th 2013 9:10pm by jalexan
#4 Jun 14 2013 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
The merits for Swordplay really make no sense. We cannot DD effectively for the very important reason that we have no DD drivers.

We don't have any JAs like Last Resort, Hasso or Berserk natively, and while we can get them via subjobs, often a DD's subjob is intended to increase the power of your main by adding more aggressive abilities or adding survivability via shadows or defensive abilities like Seigan.

As a great example, look at DNC before and after Saber Dance. While it is still not a DD at the level of most of them, Saber Dance does greatly increase its ability to be a DD. It still lacks some real crucial white damage drivers, but at least it has some native on decent enough timers (Building Flourish, Climactic Flourish) to at least pump out some decent numbers. It will never outdo a SAM or a DRK, but it won't be sillyslapping the mob like it did prior to the addition of Saber.

RUN, on the other hand, has simply had more resistances tossed onto them. No Lunge recast timer merits means you cannot just bulk on MAB gear for a stronger Lunge. The timer is way too long to give us strong enough numbers to be a true DD. Our lack of native boosts means we can DD, but we will get smashed if we draw hate, as we have no real way to mitigate our damage from physical attacks. Compare that to DRK or WAR that can /SAM who can use Hasso to up their damage, but then flip to Seigan the moment they get in trouble, yet also have a wide array of other JAs to increase their damage as well.

Edited, Jun 14th 2013 6:00pm by Pawkeshup
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