worst jp party i have ever had ><Follow

i bartend, so im usually on jp hours. I am 59 pld on the job im levling right now. I /sea all rdm 58-61 and find one to invite, he says (I dont speak english) ok? I say ok invite him, and pass him ldr, since its jp hours, and they will say no to a na invite. Luckily he gets a jp who speaks english, not great, but more than enough to get the point across. Pt is pld, rdm, whm, smn, rng. Any guesses on the last job they got?

they got a nin. Ok so right off the bat i am insulted. I felt like they thought since i was na pld, i couldnt hold hate? Anyways i have also heard jp like to chain vt mobs. Nope pt is 57-59 and we head to labrynth and take torama's. 220-250 per mob, not a single c-1 all night. The mob kept spaming silence and paralyze, but i kept him facing me and away from pt so only i was effected. The whm would not silnea or paralyzna me. I have to beg the smn to help me out, since he is the one who speaks english.

He starts saying see good thing we have nin as back up tank. Well yeah, when paralyze makes me lose every job ability i have, and then suddenly im silenced and cant cast spells, how am i supposed to hold hate?

Names are not important. They were certainly not what i consider good players, but regardlss we manged to have fun, well me and the smn were joking at least, and in the end that is all that matters. But i have two quick questions if anyone can help. First, has anyone else ever been in a pt with nin and pld before? post 37 i mean.

and second, the smn who spoke some english kept saying tunk instead of tank. Would i have been rude to have corrected him? would he have been insulted? I didnt say anything because i was gratefull that he was trying to talk to me. I'm just not sure if he would have been happy to know correct spelling, or consider it me making fun of him.

anyways in the end pt for like 2 hours, and got 1200 xp. yup horrible. But like i said, it was better than sitting in jeuno all night at least.

Yeah i think i came here as rng at 62 or so. It's funny though, everyonr talks about jp being uber, these guys were hacks. First pt i have had since dunes i think that never even got a c-1. But to be honest, i dont get invites with pld. I took a break while i was trying to find help with af body ad lvld rng some more. I have af body now, and i cant get invites and hit 60 to wear it ><. so all in all i had fun, died once, but it was entertaining, and certainly more nejoyable then sitting in jeuno and complaining. any thoughts on correcting the spelling of the jp? Being in an all jp pt it was very nice to have someone who could speak to me. I was afraid if i told him he spelled it wrong, he would quit talking to me. Oh well, amanada while i dont know if we have met in game or not, i have seen a million of your posts on here. I hope that rl is going well for you.
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Edited, Wed Jul 6 21:07:33 2005 by rebelya

Black Mage is generally not too hard to level. I play Black Mage just to be bad ***** I just want to kill stuff ;p

I do think one thing JP does well is team work and tactics. They plan PTs much more carefully, and are more tolerante to more junior players. Eltism runs a little less intense in JP PTs too.

That does not mean NA PTs are bad. The really super umber good NA pts beats the best JP PTs anytime. But such PTs are very exclusive unless you are high level. But sometimes in HL PTs I find people talk a lot about drama, so-so suck type of stuff a lot. Something I really do not like.

I hope I do not turn this to a JP vs NA thread.
I have met really aggroant and annoying JPs before, so I have met really nice JPs. It sucks when you go to main forums that you see all the time : Blame the JP or gil sellers for botting or overcamping NMs type thread... Let's not get to Cerberus dramas from here.

Na.... Most JPs are nice. Time for people to learn a Far Eastern language ;)

I encourage people to talk to JP more, and learn more about Far Eastern langauge and culture. I do not understand why people presume JPs hate NAs. Claiming all JPs are racist, botters or whatever will just make the difference more.

Ok Let this stop... And Laago, the way you think is a really bad approach. If you do not think that way, and do your job as a responsible and nice player in the game, there is no way you need
to worry about that.





Edited, Thu Jul 7 07:26:37 2005 by scchan

I think most players regardless of nation are nice, but players of any nations have the right to choose if they want to play with their own national group.

Initally when NA first come to FFXI, I think most JPs (not all) are actually quite open minded. But some bad elements in between different player groups soured the relationships, and the distance between JPs and NAs widen.

There is also a paranoid mentality among some people that no willing to play with them or not understanding what they say equate to racism/bias -- a very bad artifiact from the 60-70s American politics during the period of Senator McCarthy and M L King JR when the lack of understanding/political-racial difference equates enmity and strife. And a lot of such frustration are actually breeds from inability to get help or elitism from fellow NAs. The fact you still see people think "J*p" is an approiate word when told it was not the right word to use or making fun of the word "onry" show the altitude a lot of people.

Such barrier will never cease nor end... If people ever been to Washington -- you can see severe segeration in the city. Segeration due to racial and language is a fact of life. Just deal with it. In DC, at least most people speak the same language and do have some common ground in culture. Far Eastern language and culture are very different. That is simply a fact.

Edited, Thu Jul 7 08:47:20 2005 by scchan
Edit: To update unclear language and additional thoughts

Edited, Thu Jul 7 09:01:24 2005 by scchan

日本語を勉強しなさい！！！！ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
It translates as
"Go study Japanese!!!!! lolololololol"

Seriously, everyone should learn a foreign language ;)

Ill actually talk about the subject here with ninja and paladin in the same PT. JP players tend to have much more unconventional parties than us US players. I would hazard a guess that there's less JP players available, so they try to do more with what's available. It could also be that the NIN was a friend of theirs and maybe friendship is more important to them than exp. (Imagine that)

I once was hunting a NM in Quicksand caves in a somewhat remote spot, when a JP exp PT came to lvl. Their setup would be extremely unusual to NA players. They had no WHM or RDM and they had a DRK tank. It was DRK/WAR, THF/NIN, RNG/NIN, BRD/WHM, SMN/WHM, BLM/WHM. The DRK never lost hate. I guess the point is that they are more willing to expirement with different job combos than NA players for the most part, and NA is more likely to make cookie cutter PTs.

If there's a NIN and a PLD in the same PT I think the PLD should tank and the NIN just equip DD gear. All NIN bring DD gear to parties, and shouldn't be offended if asked to play that role. The gear is available out there to have NIN equal the damage of just about any other job out there, its just that its very under-utilized because they bring more to a party as a tank, since NIN and PLD are often in short supply. (Check items like NIN AF2 Koga Chainmail and tell me what damage dealer wouldn't want to use that)

Sorry the dead horse police came to stop your topic before it was even discussed.

(>^^)>

Wait wait....is this "everyone should learn a foreign language" or "everyone should learn Japanese"?

Elathia needs to taste what Miszu and Hibiu has suffered from Amanada ;p. Amanada has not been making sense after declaring retirement (for now).



For FFXI, some basic Japanese knowledge will be extremely helpful. But in general, I think everyone should pick up a 2nd (or even a 3rd language if you have the time). English is my second language, and Japanese is my third ^^;;;;;

^Or sleep.

I feel so trapped in a PT cause I can't replace myself. >_<

Ama..my second language is a dead language. Nobody speaks latin anymore and I forgot most of it. If I wanted to learn Romaji, it would not swing well with the JP players, they for the most part ignore romaji(because it is *gasp* japanese in ENGLISH format). That junk you typed, I dont even know how to get my computer to type out those symbols.

*Throws more excuses at him*.

And if someone uses that dead horse icon one more time, I will beat them with the dead horse.

Blarg, I tried to do it anyway and forgot I'm not a premium member anymore.

Edited, Fri Jul 8 23:27:07 2005 by Zaleshea