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#102 Mar 08 2006 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
Jacobsdeception the Sly wrote:
Althrun wrote:
I have argued that he *should* have chosen differently because of what I feel is her right to pass on her own lineage...Laws are not moral absolutes...


moe wrote:
Like it or not altruism is not a moral value. Selflessness is not a moral value. Having children is not a moral value.


/nod


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=moral wrote:

Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character: moral scrutiny; a moral quandary.
Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and behavior: a moral lesson.
Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior; virtuous: a moral life.
Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong: a moral obligation.
Having psychological rather than physical or tangible effects: a moral victory; moral support.
Based on strong likelihood or firm conviction, rather than on the actual evidence: a moral certainty.



Selflessness/Altruism != Moral Value?
Smiley: confused

#103 Mar 08 2006 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
This stopped being interesting about this time yesterday.
#104 Mar 08 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
Baron von Barkingturtle wrote:
This stopped being interesting about this time yesterday.


Yet you still find reason to read and post......
#105 Mar 08 2006 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
#106 Mar 08 2006 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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#107 Mar 08 2006 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Selflessness/Altruism != Moral Value?

Its ok for you to be confuzzled. You're not bright. I can dig that. Selflessness and Altruism are virtues. They are extolled in certain circles, but still not morals. Dictionary definitions lose, but dictionary definitions you can't f'ucking understand just make you look bad while you're losing.
#108 Mar 08 2006 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
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Selflessness/Altruism != Moral Value?

Its ok for you to be confuzzled. You're not bright. I can dig that. Selflessness and Altruism are virtues. They are extolled in certain circles, but still not morals. Dictionary definitions lose, but dictionary definitions you can't f'ucking understand just make you look bad while you're losing.



Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior; virtuous: a moral life.
#109 Mar 08 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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Althrun wrote:
I have argued that he *should* have chosen differently because of what I feel is her right to pass on her own lineage.


Opinion, straight up. One not shared by the majority of thread respondants.

The horse died two pages ago.
#110 Mar 08 2006 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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The horse died two pages ago.

Opinion, straight up. One not shared by the majority of thread respondants.

You've been a **** for far more than two pages.
#111 Mar 08 2006 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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#112 Mar 08 2006 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
bodhisattva wrote:
Being a **** is a vice

Having a **** is a virtue.

Bodhi's Deep Thought of the Day.


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#113 Mar 08 2006 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
This issue is retarded, if they just continued without his consent or knowledge everyone would be happy. What the man doesn't know can't hurt him, unless he's some kind of messed up individual that spends his life checking up on every sperm he shot out.
#114 Mar 08 2006 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Moe wrote:
You've been a tw[gold][/gold]at for far more than two pages.

It's hard keeping stride with the best.


some teenager wrote:
What the man doesn't know can't hurt him, unless he's some kind of messed up individual that spends his life checking up on every sperm he shot out.

Get back with us after you've had your first pregnancy scare.

Edited, Wed Mar 8 12:09:57 2006 by Wingchild
#115 Mar 08 2006 at 12:15 PM Rating: Default
If you don't have obligations or responsibilities, how scary is the pregnancy scare, especially if the guy never finds out?
#116 Mar 08 2006 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
Lyroc wrote:
If you don't have obligations or responsibilities, how scary is the pregnancy scare, especially if the guy never finds out?


Did you even read the article or this thread?

Just shut your man-pleaser.
#117 Mar 08 2006 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
Whats hard to understand. This man's statements show that hes only denying her because hes want to pay or have to think about it. So if he didn't know, his issues are solved.

Further more if he was willing to go through with it until he broke up with her, it becomes rather obvioius hes doing it to be vengeful .

#118 Mar 08 2006 at 12:36 PM Rating: Default
lyroc wrote:
it becomes rather obvioius hes doing it to be vengeful.


Your point being?
#119 Mar 08 2006 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
My point being that it is indeed a case of discrimination. That these reasons he's giving are lies, in which case he is a scumbag and indeed deserves a bullet in the head. Not to mention with said bullet he cacn no longer contest the use of the zygotes.
#120 Mar 08 2006 at 12:43 PM Rating: Default
How do you know they are lies? He your brother?
#121 Mar 08 2006 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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His reason could be "Because I hate that ***** and want to see her cry over her lost chances of childbirth" and he'd still be in the right to not father a child he doesn't wish to father.
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#122 Mar 08 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
His reason could be "Because I hate that ***** and want to see her cry over her lost chances of childbirth" and he'd still be in the right to not father a child he doesn't wish to father.


Not arguing the right to not father a child, but if indeed his motive was that, that would be very amoral of him, y/n?

And don't give me "The law makes that point irrelevant", the right to do something and the morals behind the choice to do something are two very different and relevant items, which the latter is being discussed here.
#123 Mar 08 2006 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
1. he was willing to do it until he broke up with her. 2 His claimed problems is that he doesn't want financial or emotional responsibility( this is a stupid argument, the woman wouldn't fight this hard without being willing to nullify any of his obligations).
3. he is willing to fight this to the end, but doesn't want to be in the public eye. To me that sounds like he doesn't want to look like an ***. If he doesn't want to look like an *** it implies he knows there is somrthing wrong with his decision. If he were really convinced that what he was doing is right he'd sound more like Meeko.
#124 Mar 08 2006 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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#125 Mar 08 2006 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
@ Lyroc

I reject anything you have to say from here on out.

@ Althrun

What's a moral? Something we believe to be a correct choice?
Don't you think that is his "Moral Choice"? It's a matter of opinion, HIS opinion. That in itself nulls anything we have to say about it. Just let it go.

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Edited, Wed Mar 8 13:09:56 2006 by Kaelesh
#126 Mar 08 2006 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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