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#152 May 27 2015 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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****, I bet I'm on a watch list or something. Smiley: laugh
Yeah, can you just imagine the poor government yutz that'd have to stick around here eight hours a day, five days a week, having to read all this drivel and ingrain himself into the faux community to throw off any suspicion?
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#153 May 27 2015 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Not the irish?


The who?
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#154 May 27 2015 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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The potato lovin' fanny bandits.

Ahh, google, you rapscallion.
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#155 May 27 2015 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not the irish?


The who?


Pretty sure they were English

Perhaps you were thinking of You Two.

Edited, May 27th 2015 12:30pm by stupidmonkey
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#156 May 27 2015 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
Kavekkk wrote:
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Not the irish?


The who?


Pretty sure they were English

Perhaps you were thinking of You Two.

Edited, May 27th 2015 12:30pm by stupidmonkey



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#157 May 27 2015 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Nah, he's the shortstop.
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#158 May 27 2015 at 2:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good thing it's windy in Chicago. I'm picturing assassin's darts and arrows being blown slightly off course as you walk, oblivious to the carnage behind you.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
Kavekkk wrote:
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Not the irish?


The who?


Pretty sure they were English

Perhaps you were thinking of You Two.

Edited, May 27th 2015 12:30pm by stupidmonkey



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I thought it was funny
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#160 May 28 2015 at 7:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Huh, looks like Palppy ran out of things to say Smiley: laugh
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#161 May 28 2015 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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A otto anni, Palpy.
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#162 May 28 2015 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Huh, looks like Palppy ran out of things to say Smiley: laugh



He's on a cyclical schedule, like locusts.
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#163 May 28 2015 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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Or herpes.

Edit: Oh, herpes is fine but heaven help you if you say fanny or poop? Smiley: rolleyes

Edited, May 28th 2015 11:41am by lolgaxe
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He's on a cyclical schedule, like locusts.

The good news for him is that, come 2023 or whatever, this thread will still be on the first page. Won't have to look so hard before demanding that I tear into Clinton.
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#166 May 29 2015 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
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I, for one, am awaiting that glorious day.
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#167 Jul 09 2015 at 4:14 AM Rating: Default
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Page two of this thread is even better. I mention again that I voted against pressing the issue and our little friend responds with:
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As I agree with the post you posted after the post I replied to in this post I'll just split and simmer somewhere else.

So he split, simmered elsewhere for eight years, then came back at a full boil to rant about stuff I never agreed with in the first place and demanding to know why I'm not savaging Obama as I did Bush Smiley: facepalm

I must have an interesting effect on people.

Edited, May 27th 2015 12:04pm by Jophiel


My memory sucks, and I'm drunk 90% of the time. I became an alcoholic in 2010, shockingly and with great personal loss.

It's not like you dazzled me and made me forget something. Plus like 15 years ago I liked Everquest and most OOT people were still both declarative and functional liberals. You and everyone else morphed into Gbaji/Hillary Clinton since. Savage beasts! Does Gbaji even post here anymore? I'm far more progressive than any of you yet if you also drove Gbaji out I lament your further dip into your backpatting cult. Your little slice of Heaven.

I'll split and simmer as long as it takes for Obama to call the Armenian Genocide what it is. Just one more broken promise to America and also Armenians. Just one more hypocrisy by you or those like you. I am the uncomfortable log in your rich person fireplace. Split and simmer. Recognize me or destroy me.
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#169 Jul 09 2015 at 7:27 AM Rating: Good
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and I'm drunk 90% of the time.


Well now we know what's happening with Joph's $50.
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#170 Jul 09 2015 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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I am the uncomfortable log in your rich person fireplace.
Noisy but easily ignorable, but still do as you're supposed to without question and ultimately easily replaceable?
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#171 Jul 09 2015 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
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and I'm drunk 90% of the time.


Well now we know what's happening with Joph's $50.


Wrong Joph stalker.
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#172 Jul 09 2015 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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and I'm drunk 90% of the time.


Well now we know what's happening with Joph's $50.


Wrong Joph stalker.


Hard to keep track with all the alt accounts and such. Smiley: mad
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On the plus side, I've been promoted to "rich person". Or maybe promoted to "fireplace"?
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#174 Jul 09 2015 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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Or he was offering to butt sex you.
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#175 Jul 09 2015 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe it's some "putting people in the fireplace" thing from the genocide. It's probably just a bad analogy.
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#178 Jul 09 2015 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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I became an alcoholic in 2010
Are your eyes blue, green, gray, or light brown by any chance?

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Palpitus1 wrote:
My memory sucks, and I'm drunk 90% of the time. I became an alcoholic in 2010, shockingly and with great personal loss.

It's not like you dazzled me and made me forget something. Plus like 15 years ago I liked Everquest and most OOT people were still both declarative and functional liberals. You and everyone else morphed into Gbaji/Hillary Clinton since. Savage beasts! Does Gbaji even post here anymore? I'm far more progressive than any of you yet if you also drove Gbaji out I lament your further dip into your backpatting cult. Your little slice of Heaven.

I'll split and simmer as long as it takes for Obama to call the Armenian Genocide what it is. Just one more broken promise to America and also Armenians. Just one more hypocrisy by you or those like you. I am the uncomfortable log in your rich person fireplace. Split and simmer. Recognize me or destroy me.

Who are you, again?

Why are we supposed to care?

I became an alcoholic back in '94 but I kicked that by the time I could drink legally. Guess I did enough damage back then.
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#180 Sep 29 2015 at 5:19 AM Rating: Default
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Who are you, again?


I'm someone who's posted a lot in this thread. What else do you need to know? You can and should evaluate what I've posted for the posts themselves. I shouldn't need to suddenly declare that I'm actually Neil deGrasse Tyson (even though I actually am) for you to read anything. Jesus, I think you yourself posted ten years ago in the thread agreeing with my position. Or maybe not.

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Jophiel seemed to really care about acknowledging Armenian Genocide in the initial post here, when it was NOT done by Bush. And I disagreed that he should have to do so. Yet Jophiel has not demanded that Obama do so. Also, in case you're ignorant, acknowledging the Armenian Genocide was a part of Obama's campaign. He HASN'T. If you care at all about hypocrisy, maybe you'll care about and investigate this further? Just a little bit? Just a little bit? Just a bit out of your way? Just a little google search? Or I guess I've also included links in past replies which might still function, if you give a **** about the actual topic. There are also numerous pictures of dead Armenians you might take a moment from "who are you again" to actually look at.

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I'm very happy you got over that. I also, but maybe not, started as a youngster (occasional binge, and often two or less drinks a year because it wasn't something to go out of the way for) then suddenly 20 years later I'm drinking every night. It was just baffling why I'd formerly just drank occasionally yet now an alkie. Maybe related to depression or insomnia, but of course no one would care about my life so I won't go on. Best wishes to you.
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Jophiel seemed to really care about acknowledging Armenian Genocide in the initial post here, when it was NOT done by Bush. And I disagreed that he should have to do so.
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Myself, I think that the intent of the bill is a good one although I question the timing and think this probably isn't the best time for it.
Jophiel also previously wrote:
I actually voted in my own poll against pressing the issue. But I think this particular attempt to pass the resolution is being taken out of context given past attempts.

Go home, Palpitus, you're drunk.
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#182 Sep 29 2015 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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At least that theat of spitting and simmering is limited to once every three months.
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At least that theat of spitting and simmering is limited to once every three months.


Or once every three DAYS! l'll spit and simmer on anyone who theatens to reduce culpability vis a vis acknowledging this Genocide. Theats all around, chum. You can choose righteousness, or base villainy. Just don't be surprised if you're travelling to New Orleans and about to partake of a gumbo pot and suddenly I pop out of it spitting and simmering. This IS going to happen, to someone. Maybe YOU. I am a master of disguise, including gumbo pot (where I wear SCUBA gear and ignore heat-pain due to Buddhist meditation, while I await my opportunity). No one is safe.

P.S. yeah, sorry again Jophiel but you're my strawman huckleberry here.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2015 4:48am by Palpitus1
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Double post. My regrets.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2015 4:45am by Palpitus1
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Just don't be surprised if you're travelling to New Orleans and about to partake of a gumbo pot and suddenly I pop out of it spitting and simmering. This IS going to happen, to someone. Maybe YOU. I am a master of disguise, including gumbo pot (where I wear SCUBA gear and ignore heat-pain due to Buddhist meditation, while I await my opportunity). No one is safe.
WTF did I just read?
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Apparently Buddhists are a lot more petty and vindictive than I've been led to believe.
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So, I take it you are of Armenian decent? The thing is, this is a pet issue. I won't argue whether or not it should be, but genocide happens, and generally people don't care, as long as it's sufficiently difficult to do so. It's very easy to call out your enemies for genocide; indeed it's a realpolitik advantage for your when your enemies do it, as you can lambast them for it, and gives you a reasonable casus belli for regional intervention. If you are a strategic ally, however, it doesn't quite work that way. The U.S. needs Turkey as a hedge against Russia and Iran, and Syria. It is fairly likely that the U.S. would lose regional influence, and less importantly from a strategic perspective, people would die as a result of the deterioration of the relationship. Having Turkey admit culpability will not bring the people killed back. What is the best case scenario for the results of ostracizing Turkey? A partition resulting in U.S. Aligned states in turkeys's east? Those have limited strategic advantage, you'd lose control of the Bosphous, and the problem of various pillaging bands in the Levant would get worse, not better, as the powers that be in Istanbul more heavily subsidized ISIL forces.

You can be mad you were lied to, but you were hoping for something that would be very hard to do, at least right now. If it makes you feel any better, it is unlikely that you ethnic group will be persecuted in the States, as it is unlikely that we would come to blows. It is more likely that the U.S. would intervene in the defense of Armenia either in part or by proxy if it was invaded by Iran, in much the same way as we would defend other hill tribes against our rivals, like the Kurds.
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Theats all around, chum.


And we all got really drunk on the round of theats that Palpitus bought for the bar.
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Apparently Buddhists are a lot more petty and vindictive than I've been led to believe.


Buddhists have absurdly good PR. I blame hippies.
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Yeah, but they often their protest involves lighting themselves on fire rather than lighting others on fire.
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The Occupy protests would have probably been taken more serious if they spent more time setting themselves on fire than angrily demanding to use store bathrooms.

But most probably not.
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So, I take it you are of Armenian decent? The thing is, this is a pet issue. I won't argue whether or not it should be, but genocide happens, and generally people don't care, as long as it's sufficiently difficult to do so. It's very easy to call out your enemies for genocide; indeed it's a realpolitik advantage for your when your enemies do it, as you can lambast them for it, and gives you a reasonable casus belli for regional intervention. If you are a strategic ally, however, it doesn't quite work that way. The U.S. needs Turkey as a hedge against Russia and Iran, and Syria. It is fairly likely that the U.S. would lose regional influence, and less importantly from a strategic perspective, people would die as a result of the deterioration of the relationship. Having Turkey admit culpability will not bring the people killed back. What is the best case scenario for the results of ostracizing Turkey? A partition resulting in U.S. Aligned states in turkeys's east? Those have limited strategic advantage, you'd lose control of the Bosphous, and the problem of various pillaging bands in the Levant would get worse, not better, as the powers that be in Istanbul more heavily subsidized ISIL forces.

You can be mad you were lied to, but you were hoping for something that would be very hard to do, at least right now. If it makes you feel any better, it is unlikely that you ethnic group will be persecuted in the States, as it is unlikely that we would come to blows. It is more likely that the U.S. would intervene in the defense of Armenia either in part or by proxy if it was invaded by Iran, in much the same way as we would defend other hill tribes against our rivals, like the Kurds.


I'm of "Presidents should do what they promise" decent. "Presidents who EXPLICITLY promise to call something for what it is but fail to do so later" descent. It's remarkable that you think that if Obama did acknowledge the Armenian Genocide by Turkey that this would have completely fractured that bilateral relationship. The best results of acknowledging such is a) keeping a promise to do so, b) assuaging Armenians, c) objectivity re: particular state's acknowledgements.

And "Turkey as a hedge against Russia and Iran, and Syria". You're a bit overblowing things, right? Turkey uses much/most of the recent conflict to bomb Kurds. Educate yourself. Including recent Turkish election results.

And finally, it's supernaturally bizarre that you think the US acknowledging the Armenian Genocide would cause the US to lose control of the Bosphorus Strait. Or cause pillaging bands in Israel to rise, or whatever you're on about with the Levant. "The Levant"? The bias over describing that territory that way is buzzing.

Turkey is one of our ******* and reliant on us and if we declared them to have murdered millions of Armenians, they'd huff and puff but we'd still be in control of them. For as much as they may do, which so far in Syria vs. ISIS is 90% jack **** and 10% murder Kurds. Allies like that? Well **** them, if Obama has any sense of honor for millions of dead Armenians. And they'd again, still be our *****. Complain a bit but still bound.

The realpolitk reason for Obama not acknowledging this is so small that it cannot be seen by anyone other than biased Turks or biased Obama fan-bois/apologists. Which one are you?
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I'm of "Presidents should do what they promise" decent.
So you're gullible?
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Turkey > Armenia to US foreign policy. That's the answer. If you feel the detriment to our relationship with Turkey would be minor, the only reasonable conclusion is that our interest in Armenian foreign policy (or voters) is even smaller than that. Unless you think Obama just hates Armenians or something. Insert your own Kardashian joke here since no one else could name another Armenian to make a joke about.
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Turkey > Armenia to US foreign policy. That's the answer. If you feel the detriment to our relationship with Turkey would be minor, the only reasonable conclusion is that our interest in Armenian foreign policy (or voters) is even smaller than that. Unless you think Obama just hates Armenians or something. Insert your own Kardashian joke here since no one else could name another Armenian to make a joke about.
If someone mentions Kevorkian would that be funny or irony?

Or funny irony?
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It'd probably kill the joke.

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I'm of "Presidents should do what they promise" decent.
So you're gullible?


Pretty sure he didn't vote for Obama. I think that demanding Turkey cop to the whole Armenian thing is silly, but on the other side, I can see how it's relevant to point out that Obama did make exactly that big deal about this when running, but then became silent once in office. If it's such an obviously bad idea that everyone on this board (well, most everyone) realizes it's a non-starter, then we either have to conclude that Obama is a complete idiot with no clue about foreign politics *or* he knew this was a non-starter, but pretended it wasn't in order to garner support.

I'll point out that *I* didn't vote for the guy either. So at least I wasn't among the gullible he was attempting to persuade with this BS. Then again, I'm reasonably certain that the number of forum posters here who were swayed to vote for him based on his criticisms about the lack of pressure on Turkey to cop to this is statistically zero Still, Obama must have thought that *someone* would be influenced by this, or he would not have done it. IMO, it's a valid thing to point to and say "here's a politician doing things politicians do to get votes". The value isn't in the demand, but maybe getting people to perhaps recognize such BS in the future. But I'm not holding my breath on that either.

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I'll point out that *I* didn't vote for the guy either.
I'll point out there is no question about *your* gullibility.
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