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#27 Jun 20 2014 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Well, everyone but the Kurdish Nationalists.

I'm not sure why you'd think that, honestly. Partition is an extremely unpopular idea on the ground in Iraq pretty much universally. If you had a vote, it would lose. Badly.


Worded that way, obviously.

Creating the seeds of a Kurdish state out of pieces of Iraq and Syria would be favorable to the Kurds. A coastal Alawite state would be much more stable and wouldn't necessitate an iron grip to control. Reorganizing large chunks of Syria-Iraq into a single state is favored by ISIS/L.Removing claims on Baghdad and the coast from the separatists is favored by Iran. They'd love a sphere of influence.

Not likely to happen, though.
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#28 Jun 20 2014 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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Nah, you just point Dragon McCain towards Syria and Iran and his lizard brain will take over from there.
Well the mammalian brain isn't doing much of anything.
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#29 Jun 23 2014 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
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Nah, you just point Dragon McCain towards Syria and Iran and his lizard brain will take over from there.
Well the mammalian brain isn't doing much of anything.

Kerrybear v McCainasaur?

McCain with his ISIS buddies last year. He's such a dupe. No wonder the world hates US.
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#30 Jun 23 2014 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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Let's not forget that the ISIS flag has been flying high in Syria for quite some time now. I suppose some may see this in Iraq as an interesting distraction.. since we wouldn't want to escalate some kind of proxy war between US and Russia via the SAF and our buddies in FSA(sorry.. the MODERATE ones).

Either way.. the Great Caliphate seems inevitable to me. Any guesses on how long we have until someone pops up claiming to be the Grand Mahdi?



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#31 Jun 23 2014 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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No wonder the world hates US.
I enjoy the constant "act don't act" world opinion at times. Not so much enjoyable when it's our own guys playing that game, though.
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#32 Jun 23 2014 at 11:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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This thread got me to go back and watch some more Archer. Fantastic.
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#33 Jun 23 2014 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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One bright-side.. ISIS hates Shia Muslims more than they hate Americans (if possible)
Too bad our boy, Al Malaki, wanted to play nicer with us than he did with the Sunnis. Maybe this could have been avoided... then again.. maybe not.
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Maybe this could have been avoided

Sure, by leaving Saddam in power. Otherwise, not really, barring genocide.
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Maybe this could have been avoided

Sure, by leaving Saddam in power. Otherwise, not really, barring genocide.


I'm wondering if we would have left him in place if the situation would have evolved into what we see in Syria now.. Then again there are so many interlinked gears moving in the whole Muslim world that I'm sure that question is irrelevant.

IMO: Egypt has it right(er).
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Sure, by leaving Saddam in power. Otherwise, not really, barring genocide.

But... but... the purple thumbs...
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I'm wondering if we would have left him in place if the situation would have evolved into what we see in Syria now


Let me end your wondering: It wouldn't have. In point of fact, what we see in Syria wouldn't have happened because Iraq's stability was one of the things holding the region together. Shockingly, by destabilizing Iraq, the region was allowed to come under the threat of extremist theocratic rule. If only anyone could have possibly seen that coming.
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Shockingly, by destabilizing Iraq, the region was allowed to come under the threat of extremist theocratic rule. If only anyone could have possibly seen that coming.
Yeah, well, we just couldn't leave all those dangerous milk trucks in Iraq.
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Yeah, well, we just couldn't leave all those dangerous milk trucks in Iraq.


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#40 Jun 25 2014 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just for fun...

Syrian warplanes strike in Iraq.

Of course we rebuke them for killing civilians, despite the fact we're considering doing exactly the same thing, in some of the same areas no less. I think I just find this whole mess amusing at this point. Well not the killing people of course, but watching people in the press try to consistently assign 'bad guys' and 'good guys' is popcorn worthy.

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#41 Jun 25 2014 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think I've moved passed that, since I know I'll be seen as the badguy by association no matter what happens. Oh, the whole "we" thing is kind of amusing I guess. "We should do more. We should do less." ******, your *** ain't doing ****.
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Oh, the whole "we" thing is kind of amusing I guess. "We should do more. We should do less." @#%^er, your *** ain't doing sh*t.

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#43 Jun 25 2014 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm paying my salary, too. Smiley: mad
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#44 Jun 25 2014 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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The only way i see this ending without concerted ethnic cleansing is a negotiated partition, but ISIS needs to be blooded before that option really exists.
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#45 Jun 25 2014 at 8:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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The only problem (okay probably not the only problem, but let's put that aside for a bit) with a negotiated partition is who gets the oil fields/refineries/pipelines/terminals etc; as those things tend to cluster a bit. Would be hard to divide them up fairly, even in a perfect world.

Edited, Jun 25th 2014 7:15pm by someproteinguy
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#46 Jun 26 2014 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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This is the same group of people that the US just spent 3 years funding and supplying in Syria. Isn't it awesome when something completely blows up in your face. If them using Chemical weapons and almost drawing the US into another war their (thanks to the red line, and thanks to Russia for stepping in), wasn't enough, perhaps a militant group controlling territory from Bahgdad to the Mediterranean will be.

Or maybe Obama and Kerry will continue to drone on about how there is no extremist elements within the Syrian Rebels, and that the US is doing everything it can to ensure money and munitions are being spent solely to remove Assad and not kill hundreds of innocents a week.

Then again, Abdullah ibn Abdilazīz and Uncle Sam are still looking for that sweet sweet pipeline connecting through Iraq into Turkey and West to the Med., so what better way then to have your borderless army dig out some territory for you to put one in.

Still all about that Oil. The whole sectarian divisive thing is just to give the media something to talk about. In 10 years we will be back to complaining about Shiite evil doers and jump back on the Sunni bandwagon.

Edited, Jun 26th 2014 9:23am by rdmcandie
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#47 Jun 26 2014 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
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Could you at least offer links to the claims?
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#48 Jun 26 2014 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Still all about that Oil


What a revolutionary idea. You mean it's not about the US' deep abiding love for the freedom of Arab peoples?
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
Then again, Abdullah ibn Abdilazīz and Uncle Sam are still looking for that sweet sweet pipeline connecting through Iraq into Turkey and West to the Med., so what better way then to have your borderless army dig out some territory for you to put one in.
Seriously? They're terrible then. I found it within 30 seconds on google. See the picture? There's an oil pipeline to Turkey right there.

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#50 Jun 26 2014 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
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The one controlled by the Kurds who won't bend to the whims of Baghdad...let alone the US. Why do you think that the US so badly wants Assad out of Syria, its because he said no to a pipeline. You don't really think its because the US Government started suddenly caring about the people of Syria do you.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines Some good bedtime reading if you click through the story links and read them as well.

Its not a new game. The US and Saudis want a concrete Oil avenue out of the middle east, they don't have that through Kurdish Iraq, and the only other avenue is through Syria, and the Sunni Rebels funded and supplied by the US (for at least the last 3 years publically) and Saudis (for decades) now controls territory from Baghdad to the Med. http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75506000/gif/_75506457_iraq_isis_planed_area_624_v2.gif

Its all about the oil, its why Gaddafi was ousted in Libya, its why Saddam was removed in Iraq. Its why the EU and US helped push for a coup in Ukraine to get Russia to overstep its bounds and sanction it...Granted Putin isn't an idiot and signed huge deals with India and China so the EU can @#%^ off whenever it wants with no impact on Russia. (see: **** the EU Phone Leaks. Because the US doesn't care about the EU either.)



Edited, Jun 27th 2014 1:04am by rdmcandie
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Its why the EU and US helped push for a coup in Ukraine
Last time you were crying about how the EU wasn't cooperating and now you're crying about it being a co-conspirator.
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