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#52 Jun 30 2014 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe it's just my familiarity to the engineering world, but we tend to use the progression "Associate X", "X", "Senior X", "Staff X", as the progression of titles with "X" always being the descriptive name for the position itself

You aren't an engineer, nor are you "in the engineering world".
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I just call myself a P.Eng.
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#54 Jun 30 2014 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I just call myself a P.Eng.

Win!

It's a shame there aren't more Principals in high schools, or one could be a principal Principal.

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Oh. But on a semi-serious yet utterly pedantic note. I'd suggest to your boss (talking to Belk now) the term "associate" for the entry/lower level folks instead of junior. It's more generic, is generally understood to mean the same thing, but doesn't have the potential negative connotation.

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But sales associate sounds so respectable. Said no one ever.
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#57 Jul 01 2014 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe it's just my familiarity to the engineering world, but we tend to use the progression "Associate X", "X", "Senior X", "Staff X", as the progression of titles with "X" always being the descriptive name for the position itself

You aren't an engineer, nor are you "in the engineering world".


It's really cute when you keep saying this. I'm curious who you are trying to convince? Not me, certainly. Yourself then? You do realize that when you do this, you're just making your own inferiority complex that much more obvious, right?
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#58 Jul 01 2014 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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It's really cute when you keep saying this. I'm curious who you are trying to convince? Not me, certainly. Yourself then? You do realize that when you do this, you're just making your own inferiority complex that much more obvious, right?


I'm confused. Are you stating that you ARE an engineer or that you work in an engineering department?
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#59 Jul 01 2014 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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It's really cute when you keep saying this. I'm curious who you are trying to convince? Not me, certainly. Yourself then? You do realize that when you do this, you're just making your own inferiority complex that much more obvious, right?


I'm confused. Are you stating that you ARE an engineer or that you work in an engineering department?


I am not a licensed Professional Engineer, if that's what you're asking. But then, neither are about 90% of all those who hold engineering titles in the workforce today. I do work in an engineering department, and work directly with many engineers (some of whom are PEs). This more than qualifies me to say that I am familiar with the engineering world. Which, as you recall, was what I originally said.

You're seriously going to say that only those who hold a PE license can claim to be familiar with the engineering world and engineering title structures? Really? Cause that seems somewhat silly.

I'm going to stick with this being the patented Smasharoo "If I tear those around me down, it'll make me feel bigger/better" bit. Pretty obvious psychology involved really. You're just not that complex.

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#60 Jul 01 2014 at 4:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I do work in an engineering department, and work directly with many engineers (some of whom are PEs). This more than qualifies me to say that I am familiar with the engineering world.
Oh, well in that case I work with medics, and have taken some combat life saving courses so that more than qualifies me to be a surgeon.
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I am not a licensed Professional Engineer, if that's what you're asking. But then, neither are about 90% of all those who hold engineering titles in the workforce today. I do work in an engineering department, and work directly with many engineers (some of whom are PEs). This more than qualifies me to say that I am familiar with the engineering world. Which, as you recall, was what I originally said.

So do janitors. Are you a janitor? It's unclear. You clearly aren't an engineer, in the same way the guy who sells hotdogs at Yankee Stadium isn't a major league pitcher.
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I should add that the point of this is that being next to something doesn't make you that thing and thinking you COULD do something doesn't mean you have. Your reply to engineering based questions should be "I don't know, I'm not an engineer, I know nothing about that." Instead it seems to be "I could have been an engineer if I wanted to and I work near lots of them so I know things."

You don't.
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#63 Jul 01 2014 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow. Great job proving my point there Smash. Serious inferiority complex going on there. Nearly textbook case, actually.
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Wow. Great job proving my point there Smash. Serious inferiority complex going on there. Nearly textbook case, actually.

Do you work in the same building as a psychiatrist, too? You know what is characteristic of inferiority complexes? Embellishing personal accomplishments :) If I tell you "I've done that" it's because I *actually have* not because I was in the same building with someone who has. I don't need to play pretend, but then, I have actual accomplishments, so I can't really see the POV.
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#65 Jul 01 2014 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Nearly textbook case, actually.
I'd ask if the textbook you think you're reading is Dr Suess, but we already know conservatives aren't that far into their English curriculum.
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I do work in an engineering department, and work directly with many engineers (some of whom are PEs). This more than qualifies me to say that I am familiar with the engineering world.
Oh, well in that case I work with medics, and have taken some combat life saving courses so that more than qualifies me to be a surgeon.


No, but it does qualify you to speak intelligently on the subject of medics and life saving techniques and whatnot. Unless you're going to argue that only surgeons have any familiarity with the medical profession? Cause that would be really strange.
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Wow. Great job proving my point there Smash. Serious inferiority complex going on there. Nearly textbook case, actually.

Do you work in the same building as a psychiatrist, too? You know what is characteristic of inferiority complexes? Embellishing personal accomplishments :) If I tell you "I've done that" it's because I *actually have* not because I was in the same building with someone who has. I don't need to play pretend, but then, I have actual accomplishments, so I can't really see the POV.


Yup. Still proving my point.

You're actually going to try to claim that over the decade or so you've been posting here, that puffing yourself up whilst tearing others down *hasn't* been a staple posting methodology for you? It's what you do Smash. You're pretty much the peacock of the damn forums. It can be endearing, don't get me wrong. But I don't think there are very many long term posters here who haven't basically come to the same conclusion about you. It's not like your "type" isn't something everyone runs into at some point in their life.

When you shake hands with someone, you squeeze just a bit harder than necessary, don't you?

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gbaji wrote:
I'm going to stick with this being the patented Smasharoo "If I tear those around me down, it'll make me feel bigger/better" bit. Pretty obvious psychology involved really. You're just not that complex.

Having hung out with Smash I'll agree that he's not "that complex" but he's not suffering an inferiority complex either. Egomania, perhaps Smiley: laugh
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#69 Jul 01 2014 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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No, but it does qualify you to speak intelligently on the subject of medics and life saving techniques and whatnot surgery.
Oh, we're still doing this? Trying to change some key points and hope no one notices? Has that ever worked for you? Anyway, association doesn't really qualify one to speak intelligently on a subject. What you're doing is called a bluff, and it doesn't work when people with far more knowledge and actual association with the subject are around.

It is kind of funny that you've just admitted you'd take medicine from a hospital janitor, though. Because, you know. They work with doctors and therefor are qualified to speak intelligently on that subject. You and your zany magical thinking.

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#70 Jul 01 2014 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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You're actually going to try to claim that over the decade or so you've been posting here, that puffing yourself up whilst tearing others down *hasn't* been a staple posting methodology for you?
You can read your quote in my sig, right Capt. Irony?


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I'm going to stick with this being the patented Smasharoo "If I tear those around me down, it'll make me feel bigger/better" bit. Pretty obvious psychology involved really. You're just not that complex.

Having hung out with Smash I'll agree that he's not "that complex" but he's not suffering an inferiority complex either. Egomania, perhaps Smiley: laugh


Most people with outwardly egotistical behavior are actually suffering from feelings of inferiority and inadequacy. True egomaniacs don't talk about how great they are, they just do things and assume they will always succeed and/or that everyone will go along, because it doesn't enter their minds that they might be wrong. When someone talks constantly about how superior they are, but never actually seems to do anything to show it, it's usually a cover for inferiority. In Smash's case, the ratio of over the top claims made to arguments/evidence presented is something like 100:1.

And before you say it (cause I know you will), I *always* at least present an argument. Others may not agree with it, but I always take the time (too much in some people's opinion) to construct some kind of argument in support of whatever I'm saying. Smash nearly never does. He just declares himself to be right and then moves on. When called on it, he refuses to even construct an argument in his defense, and usually just starts attacking the other poster (over say grammar for example). You can't possibly have missed this pattern.

Now, that doesn't absolutely prove anything. And hey, everyone's got some kind of interesting psych stuff rattling around in their heads. But it's interesting how, in the midst of a seemingly innocent and trivial conversation about job titles and whatnot, he went out of his way to attack me on something that was frankly a really minor (and completely accurate) statement about engineering titles. That's a strange thing to choose to get worked up over. Because I said that I have a familiarity with the engineering world, he felt the need to challenge me? Given statements I've made over the years about my own work experience, what I said was not even remotely controversial. Was it?
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No, but it does qualify you to speak intelligently on the subject of medics and life saving techniques and whatnot surgery.
Oh, we're still doing this? Trying to change some key points and hope no one notices?


OH. MY. GOD. That's classic. Seriously. You know. Cause you just... Lol!

You're like the bestest troll ever!

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You're actually going to try to claim that over the decade or so you've been posting here, that puffing yourself up whilst tearing others down *hasn't* been a staple posting methodology for you?
You can ready your quote in my sig, right Capt. Irony?


Honestly, I don't even recall writing that. I usually try to avoid personal attacks when posting, but when I get annoyed with particular behavior, I'll do it sometimes. I was probably being sarcastic, but who knows? Can you link the original post you quoted? I've actually been meaning to ask this, because I've noticed the quote and have been wondering for some time what the context was in which I wrote it.
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gbaji wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
You're actually going to try to claim that over the decade or so you've been posting here, that puffing yourself up whilst tearing others down *hasn't* been a staple posting methodology for you?
You can ready your quote in my sig, right Capt. Irony?
Honestly, I don't even recall writing that. I usually try to avoid personal attacks when posting, but when I get annoyed with particular behavior, I'll do it sometimes. I was probably being sarcastic, but who knows? Can you link the original post you quoted? I've actually been meaning to ask this, because I've noticed the quote and have been wondering for some time what the context was in which I wrote it.
Here.


Most certainly not an isolated incident for you.


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gbaji, 7:08pm wrote:
I *always* at least present an argument. Others may not agree with it, but I always take the time (too much in some people's opinion) to construct some kind of argument in support of whatever I'm saying.
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OH. MY. GOD. That's classic. Seriously. You know. Cause you just... Lol!
It's kind of disappointing when you dismantle your own arguments in such short order.
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Honestly, I don't even recall writing that. I usually try to avoid personal attacks when posting, but when I get annoyed with particular behavior, I'll do it sometimes. I was probably being sarcastic, but who knows? Can you link the original post you quoted? I've actually been meaning to ask this, because I've noticed the quote and have been wondering for some time what the context was in which I wrote it.
Here.


Most certainly not an isolated incident for you.


Fair enough. I was responding to Red though. So I think the amount of arrogance I displayed was just about right. Smiley: grin


To be honest though, I do firmly believe that there are far too many people with book smarts, who can quote and parrot all sorts of sources to support their position, but can't seem to actually construct an argument at all. The danger there is that people lose the ability to derive their own conclusion, preferring to rely on someone else doing it for them. Which makes them unable to tell when they're being lied to.

We don't teach nearly enough critical thinking in our education system (and less in France's apparently).
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gbaji, 7:08pm wrote:
I *always* at least present an argument. Others may not agree with it, but I always take the time (too much in some people's opinion) to construct some kind of argument in support of whatever I'm saying.
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OH. MY. GOD. That's classic. Seriously. You know. Cause you just... Lol!
It's kind of disappointing when you dismantle your own arguments in such short order.


Um... No argument by me necessary. You lampooned yourself buddy.
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