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#352 Oct 13 2014 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even I can't see why this is a thing.
Because guaranteed response is guaranteed?
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#353 Oct 13 2014 at 9:45 PM Rating: Default
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Most don't.

I would say that most do.
#354 Oct 14 2014 at 2:40 AM Rating: Good
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Well, MSNBC has begun coverage. As I suspected it would be, it was rather one sided and at points actually dishonest.

Edit: It looks like Brianna Wu decided against talking with Reporter Milo. He's also saying that Adam Baldwin says that she lied about him being unwilling to meet with her.

Edited, Oct 14th 2014 2:49am by Poldaran
#355 Oct 14 2014 at 6:18 AM Rating: Decent
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As I suspected it would be, it was rather one sided and at points actually dishonest.


What sides you talking about?

There are people being total death-threatening, hating jerks on the internet. Are they a side ...'your' side?



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#356 Oct 14 2014 at 6:27 AM Rating: Good
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As I suspected it would be, it was rather one sided and at points actually dishonest.
What sides you talking about?

There are people being total death-threatening, hating jerks on the internet. Are they a side ...'your' side?
I take it you didn't watch the video, did you? Because they're saying all of #Gamergate is misogynistic.

Or are you that ideologically driven that you'll take any opportunity to also misrepresent the other side?
#357 Oct 14 2014 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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As I suspected it would be, it was rather one sided and at points actually dishonest.


What sides you talking about?

There are people being total death-threatening, hating jerks on the internet. Are they a side ...'your' side?



The side raising concerns about gaming journalism and development?

Same thing with the NPR piece on Zoe, when it talked about the GamersGate it mentioned only the hateful attacks and threats against the female developer and journalists and not anything about why the controversy existed from the viewpoint of the other side.

They focus on treating the entire side at the same level as the bad eggs, same as people like you and omega here, ignoring the repeated times those threats are denounced.

Edited, Oct 14th 2014 8:35am by TirithRR
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#358 Oct 14 2014 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
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As I suspected it would be, it was rather one sided and at points actually dishonest.
What sides you talking about?

There are people being total death-threatening, hating jerks on the internet. Are they a side ...'your' side?
I take it you didn't watch the video, did you? Because they're saying all of #Gamergate is misogynistic.

Or are you that ideologically driven that you'll take any opportunity to also misrepresent the other side?

Ideologically driven?

Um, you're the one who's keeping this little girl v boy battle going.
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#359 Oct 14 2014 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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The side raising concerns about online journalism?
When are things going to get to this part?

I keep seeing people say that this is the 'bigger' issue. Apparently the littler issue about the butt-hurt guy making bad on the girl that hurt his feeling is still muddying the water.

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Same thing with the NPR piece on Zoe, when it talked about the GamersGate it mentioned only the hateful attacks and threats against the female developer and journalists and not anything about why the controversy existed from the viewpoint of the other side.
Because that is the news. That is the news. That is the news.





Edited, Oct 14th 2014 2:40pm by Elinda
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#360 Oct 14 2014 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
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The side raising concerns about online journalism?
When are things going to get to this part?

I keep seeing people say that this is the 'bigger' issue. Apparently the littler issue about the ****-hurt guy making bad on the girl that hurt his feeling is still muddying the water.

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Same thing with the NPR piece on Zoe, when it talked about the GamersGate it mentioned only the hateful attacks and threats against the female developer and journalists and not anything about why the controversy existed from the viewpoint of the other side.
Because that is the news. That is the news. That is the news.





Edited, Oct 14th 2014 2:40pm by Elinda

Did you even listen to the NPR piece? The story was supposedly about GamersGate, even said so at the beginning. Then they got Zoe on and all she talked about was the attacks and how Anita was threatened all the time. Then some random guy dev got on and talked about the attacks, not once do I recall the issues being discussed prior or during the attack discussion. The one guy did say they the attackers were a small portion of the people, but beyond that nothing.

The anti side has no reason to bring up the issues, by focusing on the attacks they can ignore and discredit any concerns.
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#361 Oct 14 2014 at 6:55 AM Rating: Default
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TirithRR wrote:
Elinda wrote:
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The side raising concerns about online journalism?
When are things going to get to this part?

I keep seeing people say that this is the 'bigger' issue. Apparently the littler issue about the ****-hurt guy making bad on the girl that hurt his feeling is still muddying the water.

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Same thing with the NPR piece on Zoe, when it talked about the GamersGate it mentioned only the hateful attacks and threats against the female developer and journalists and not anything about why the controversy existed from the viewpoint of the other side.
Because that is the news. That is the news. That is the news.





Edited, Oct 14th 2014 2:40pm by Elinda

Did you even listen to the NPR piece? The story was supposedly about GamersGate, even said so at the beginning. Then they got Zoe on and all she talked about was the attacks and how Anita was threatened all the time. Then some random guy dev got on and talked about the attacks, not once do I recall the issues being discussed prior or during the attack discussion. The one guy did say they the attackers were a small portion of the people, but beyond that nothing.

The anti side has no reason to bring up the issues, by focusing on the attacks they can ignore and discredit any concerns.
Gamer's gate isn't about ethics in journalism - never was. That's bs. It's about people in the gaming industry, specifically female people, getting death threats. That's what it's been about from the beginning. That's why it made news. That's why it continues to make news.

Take sides all you want, but realize that you're sympathizing with and/or making excuses for really bad anti-social behavior. It doesn't matter that Zoe slept around on her boyfriend. It doesn't matter that another girl gamer 'poked' a website. It dosen't matter that Anita publishes her questionable research in video format.

The news here is people making death threats on women in the gaming industry. That's the news. That's what you're siding with. That's what keeps this going.


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#362 Oct 14 2014 at 7:01 AM Rating: Good
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Ideologically driven?

Um, you're the one who's keeping this little girl v boy battle going.
Ah, I see. You're going to keep doing that. Got it.
#363 Oct 14 2014 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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It's easier to say everyone's a sexist pig that supports death threats because some people are.

I'm not sympathizing with the people making the threats nor making excuses for them. I'm looking at people who are on that side not making the threats yet are continually lumped in with them and discredited and ignored. Like I don't think Pold here supports or makes the threats himself but you guys treat him like he is and does.
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#364 Oct 14 2014 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good
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It's easier to say everyone's a sexist pig that supports death threats because some people are.

Who said that?
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#365 Oct 14 2014 at 7:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I did. Elinda is a sexist pig.
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#366 Oct 14 2014 at 7:24 AM Rating: Good
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I did. Elinda is a sexist pig.

Sexist Sow.
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#369 Oct 14 2014 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
The news here is people making death threats on women in the gaming industry.
I don't remember you going to these lengths when Robert Bowling was getting death threats.
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#371 Oct 14 2014 at 7:38 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
The news here is people making death threats on women in the gaming industry.
I don't remember you going to these lengths when Robert Bowling was getting death threats.

I didn't go to any lengths. I don't know who that is.

I've simply commented on the links that have been posted and the responses that they've elicited.

If there is a boy getting death threats I don't see how that changes anything. It still makes this a story about butt-hurt people acting badly.
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Elinda wrote:
The news here is people making death threats on women in the gaming industry.
I don't remember you going to these lengths when Robert Bowling was getting death threats.

John Smedley's (CEO Sony Online Entertainment) plane had to be diverted due to a bomb threat (targeted at him) and the group involved actually directly compared themselves to ISIS.


Edited, Oct 14th 2014 8:39am by Jophiel
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I don't remember you going to these lengths when Robert Bowling was getting death threats.
I didn't go to any lengths. I don't know who that is.

I'm guessing you didn't know who Zoe Quinn was either until she received death threats. Her's just got more media because of the feminism angle.

This article on Bowling makes mention of the fact that such threats are "routine" for game developers who mainly brush them off as the insane ramblings of idiots that they are.

Edited, Oct 14th 2014 8:45am by Jophiel
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#375 Oct 14 2014 at 7:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
I didn't go to any lengths.
Kind of the point. Why does Anita get special treatment when people like Robert have been dealing with this very behavior for far longer than her?
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I didn't go to any lengths.
Kind of the point. Why does Anita get special treatment when people like Robert have been dealing with this very behavior for far longer than her?

What special treatment?

Honestly, I don't understand your point. Are you too now butthurt because someone else before got a death threat on the internet and didn't get the recognition they deserved?

Do you think Anita wanted the death threats? Is she acting all girlish and demanding unwarranted attention?

What is it that has you guys so butt-hurt about this?!

Edited, Oct 14th 2014 3:46pm by Elinda
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