There's nothing to "infer" as he says it directly. You can say that you'll argue semantics over an ill defined topic, sure. But pointing out a direct quote doesn't lend itself to playing the "semantics!" game unless the author is just exceptionally shitty and inarticulate.
Which, you know, you might be right after all.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Elinda wrote:
Take sides all you want, but realize that you're sympathizing with and/or making excuses for really bad anti-social behavior. It doesn't matter that Zoe slept around on her boyfriend. It doesn't matter that another girl gamer 'poked' a website. It dosen't matter that Anita publishes her questionable research in video format.
The news here is people making death threats on women in the gaming industry. That's the news. That's what you're siding with. That's what keeps this going.
So what you are saying is... anyone who isn't with me is a woman hating ****?
Because that is all it really boils down to. Everyone who DARES to disagree is a major male misogynistic ****. That is not a good start for any kind of conversation.
Do you even begin to see a problem?
I had a mean thing to say, but you may misconstrue my suggestion as a veiled threat or something.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
This whole ethics in gaming journalism bit. wtf? What is gaming journalism? Game reviews? Who gives a ****? I assume all reviewers are basically paid off. Are you telling me they aren't always?
Edited, Oct 14th 2014 5:15pm by Xsarus
Edited, Oct 14th 2014 5:15pm by Xsarus
I am a sad panda, because this is considered a given. Zero punctuation seems even handed in distributing hate.
But you are, naturally, correct. Game reviews have little to do with journalism. Maybe they should. But they don't.
Come to think of it... how did restaurants manage to keep non-professional reviewers from ruining reputations of established restaurants? Didn't hotels in NY start suing individual yelp posters?
Maybe I am asking for too much, but if all I am getting is advertising, maybe I should:
a) know it is advertising
b) have some basic rules about what cannot be done ( blatant lies )
c) get all the info about the included drms and whether the game is mostly multiplayer
What I am getting at is that we kinda let it happen. Few industries could have gotten away with the **** gaming industry does on a regular basis.
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Jophiel wrote:
At this point, listening to Gawker Media about Gamergate is like listening Fox News about Democrats. They know where their paychecks are coming from and they know the best way to stay in the money is a 24/7 stream of things to get outraged about.
Rumors & outrage porn are a winning combo.
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 12:17am by Timelordwho
Just as Planned.
Jophiel wrote:
Omegavegeta wrote:
As I said, I disagree & here we are arguing about semantics as the article predicted.
I don't think you understand what "semantics" means. In any event, saying "Semantics!" is a Gbaji-level cop out.
Also, Heh.
Edited, Oct 14th 2014 6:02pm by Jophiel
I got tired of Gbaji whiping out that argument so I just replaced the a with another i.
It made the cranky old man rants somewhat more intelligible.
Just as Planned.
Another threat against Anita. Okay, so against a university because Anita was holding a talk, if we want to be technical. This one sounds like an Elliot Rodger wannabe. I had to look up who the hell Marc Lepine was.
MundaneMatt more or less says what I would want to say.
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 12:06am by Poldaran
MundaneMatt more or less says what I would want to say.
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 12:06am by Poldaran
Yeah, I'm with him on that. This is the problem I have with ratcheting up the discourse on any topic - it releases the kraaken crazy.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Another threat against Anita. Okay, so against a university because Anita was holding a talk, if we want to be technical.
The sad thing here is the threats were successful in keeping Anita from giving her talk.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I bet a manifesto written in Sarkeesian's spilled blood would be sticky and unpleasant to read.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I bet a manifesto written in Sarkeesian's spilled blood would be sticky and unpleasant to read.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Elinda wrote:
The sad thing here is the threats were successful in keeping Anita from giving her talk.
She says she canceled because Utah's concealed carry laws would have let anyone come into the event with a gun on them and campus police refused to do gun searches. Can we mix the firearm debate into this now? Because that would be good times.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Can we mix the firearm debate into this now?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I'm kinda curious if she's still gonna get paid for her talk.
lolgaxe wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Can we mix the firearm debate into this now?
Well, "I want the police to stop people from shooting me" probably moved up on the priority list after someone said they were going to come and shoot her.
I couldn't tell you the concealed carry laws for pretty much anywhere (much less for individual properties) but I'd likely be inspired to find out if someone was threatening to murder me and write manifestos with my blood (the cholesterol makes the pen tip just glide over the parchment)
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
lolgaxe wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Can we mix the firearm debate into this now?
She agreed to talk at a university. Threats were made. When the decision to talk or not needed to be made in light of the death threats, the conceal carry law made a difference in the determination.
Gees, you really want to demonize this woman.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Jophiel wrote:
Well, "I want the police to stop people from shooting me" probably moved up on the priority list after someone said they were going to come and shoot her.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Elinda wrote:
Gees, you really want to demonize this woman.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
But, according to her at least, she's been getting these kinds of threats pretty much her entire career. I guess what I'm curious about is what's different about this one over all the others in the past.
*Shrug* Maybe other places were more accommodating on the security front when asked or when threats were made. Maybe she doesn't travel to Utah much and was unaware of the differences there and that the police would flatly refuse to search people for guns. Beats me. I don't think it's especially incriminating in of itself.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I don't think it's especially incriminating in of itself.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Gees, you really want to demonize this woman.
I'm not a misogynist. If you're going to sink to name-calling at least get your terminology straight.
The obvious thing here is that the University was threatened because she was speaking. You can find a conspiracy in there if you'd like, but that's this is the story I'm going with. Occam's razor and all that.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
Occam's razor and all that.
Look, again I get that the only reason you feel the need to defend her is because she is, in fact, a her, but some of us are more interested in the whole truth thing and less on someone's reproductive organs.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Occam's razor and all that.
Look, again I get that the only reason you feel the need to defend her is because she is, in fact, a her, but some of us are more interested in the whole truth thing and less on someone's reproductive organs.
The truth is she's getting threatened.
You can't handle the truth?
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
The truth is she's getting threatened.
Elinda wrote:
You can't handle the truth?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Elinda wrote:
The truth is she's getting threatened.
Elinda wrote:
You can't handle the truth?
I can't handle you when you use your dong to type.
Conflicting evidence...Lol.
This woman could get shot dead and you'll convince yourself she was lying about it.
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 4:53pm by Elinda
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