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#1 Sep 28 2014 at 2:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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TL;DR I lost a ton of weight over two years, and now I get much faster and more attentive shop service, more overall around friendliness from strangers... and men checking me out in public.

Actually that will do, you don't need the long version. Except that given where I live, I actually get a fair few women attracted to me too. It's... it's really good for my self esteem. But I'm kind of angry at how invisible fat people are. How differently we (they?) are treated.
#2 Sep 28 2014 at 4:37 AM Rating: Good
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Go go self esteem!

And people are more likely to pay extra attention to people they think look good, it's not really a conscious thing I think.
#3 Sep 28 2014 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a slender, athletic physique and no obvious disabilities or deformities (aside from the red hair) and am usually out and about on errands with an adorable two year old attached to my hip, so I get all the attention in the world. It must suck for other people.
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I mean, it's just human nature. We are biologically wired to pay more attention to those we find attractive. There are those out there who find the overweight attractive, certainly, but they're a minority.
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#5 Sep 28 2014 at 2:50 PM Rating: Good
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What is "overweight" exactly? Seems anything over size 0 is "fat" anymore. Every day I see ads for these weight loss pills or diet plans with these before and after shots of women who look perfectly fine the way they are in the before picture, but much less attractive after. I will never understand the need, or the pressure, to look malnourished.
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I was leered at most my adult life. The last ten years though, the looks have dropped off considerably. Cutting off my long brown locks earlier this year finished off the few remaining distance glances i may have gotten. I've been considering resorting to make-up to 'look' younger and prettier, but I just can't justify the cost and hassle.

Getting old sucks in many ways. It's ok too though. My bladder is still functions quite well.
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#7 Sep 28 2014 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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What is "overweight" exactly?
BMI over 25.


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#8 Sep 28 2014 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, that reminds me: My old computer that had the forest pix on it died. I can has another set, Ari?

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As to the OP: I can't relate, being an largely unattractive man.Smiley: frown

I mean, when I slash and burn the 'stache and beard on those occasions when they get to scraggly some folk will note that I look younger, but otherwise I'm pretty (heh) invisible.


I can verify that being in the company of an cute baby does attract every female in sight.Smiley: laugh
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Elinda wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
What is "overweight" exactly?
BMI over 25.

25?? I'm probably running about 2.5...shall I go on about the stigma attached to resembling one of those Ethiopian kids in the Sally Struthers commercials as an adolescent?
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BMI is a really stupid measurement, given that it doesn't account for the fat/muscle difference. I'm at 23.7 BMI, but I'm nowhere near overweight, for example. Body Fat percentage is a lot more accurate, but harder to calculate.

I guess BMI is good for a quick and dirty measurement for a person who doesn't exercise regularly.

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Kuwoobie wrote:
What is "overweight" exactly?
BMI over 25.

25?? I'm probably running about 2.5...shall I go on about the stigma attached to resembling one of those Ethiopian kids in the Sally Struthers commercials as an adolescent?


What. 2.5? You would have to weigh 15 pounds at 5'6" to have a BMI that low.

Edited, Sep 28th 2014 5:27pm by IDrownFish
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Debalic is actually an empty shell with no soul, that's why he weighs so little.
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Age 18: 6'2" 128 lbs = BMI 16

Age 48(now): 6'2" 198lbs = BMI 25

...still not fat.

Round in the gut, but not fat - is what I keep telling myself.Smiley: lolSmiley: cry
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My BMI has been a constant 23.5 since I turned 18, I believe, but my weight has gone from muscle to fat over the years. Should probably not eat all that ice cream, but damn it... it's so good! Should probably hit the gym again, but it's boring, and it takes forever.

Being taller than most people, and not too skinny, I've never really been overlooked in my adult life. I'm used to people giving me glances whenever I get on a bus, or get off a train, or walk into a room. I dealt with a bit of paranoia back in the days because of it. It's like being a celebrity, except no one comes over for autographs. Smiley: frown
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IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
What is "overweight" exactly?
BMI over 25.

25?? I'm probably running about 2.5...shall I go on about the stigma attached to resembling one of those Ethiopian kids in the Sally Struthers commercials as an adolescent?

What. 2.5? You would have to weigh 15 pounds at 5'6" to have a BMI that low.

Whoops, I must have meant body fat percentage. Surely I'm exaggerating that too, but not by a whole lot.
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#16 Sep 28 2014 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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But I'm kind of angry at how invisible fat people are. How differently we (they?) are treated.


This is my favorite part. The look of shock when someone walks into me. Really? Didn't see the tall big guy? Smiley: lol
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#17 Sep 29 2014 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
BMI is useful for describing averages over large populations. It's not that great on an individual basis.

It's funny, over the weekend (at an anime convention) I saw some skinny girls that looked fine, and others that looked in serious need of intervention. Body frame and muscle toning have a lot to do with it. A very skinny gal with a decent set of muscles will look totally fine, but a skinny gil with 0 muscle tone looks like she is a day away from death. Then there are the gals who are so skinny they've lost all their curves. Then the ones that might technically be overweight, but the fat is where it belongs - those are the ones most likely to have a passel of drooling guys following behind them.

Fat people get more attention if they are very well dressed. You don't ignore the person in the business suit regardless of BMI.

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#18 Sep 29 2014 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good
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Perception: Skinny women are 'unhealthy', skinny men simply have a high metabolism.
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Kuwoobie wrote:
What is "overweight" exactly? Seems anything over size 0 is "fat" anymore.

On the other end of the spectrum, we have obviously obese people who are supposedly "perfect just the way they are". Maybe aspire to somewhere in the middle ground.
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Jophiel wrote:
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What is "overweight" exactly? Seems anything over size 0 is "fat" anymore.

On the other end of the spectrum, we have obviously obese people who are supposedly "perfect just the way they are". Maybe aspire to somewhere in the middle ground.

I do feel society is too accepting of obesity. The stigma of being obese should not be diminished. Should be increased.

That's not to say that fat people should be belittled and second class by any means. But that their obvious health issues should not be ignored or accepted. Sometimes they are even held up be popular media as going against the unattainable images in media and promoted.

I used to weigh 270 lbs. Now I'm down around 190-195. I'm still working on being more active and eating better. But I spent 15-20 years of my life board line obese because everyone around me accepted it and never tried to change me or help the issue. Everyone pushed the "Don't care what others think" attitude about weight. It wasn't until one day I just decided to do something that I changed it myself.

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#21 Sep 29 2014 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
Perception: Skinny women are 'unhealthy', skinny men simply have a high metabolism.
The skinny men aren't in danger of being crushed by their persecution complexes.
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But I spent 15-20 years of my life board line obese because everyone around me accepted it and never tried to change me or help the issue.

Did you not know you were overweight?

Accepting that society has an obesity problem and attempting to deal with it is one thing, but treating individual's as less than equal because they have a problem that happens to be visually obvious is just wrong.



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Elinda wrote:
Did you not know you were overweight?


I was a kid for the most part. A few bullies picked on me for it but beyond the usual bullying and responses nothing major. I knew I was big but friends and family did nothing to indicate it being an issue. And in highschool I played football as a lineman and was expected to be big and slow.

As I got older and understood things better the bad habits that lead to me being overweight were the norm for me. I accepted the fact that I was overweight. That it was normal. No reason to try and change it. Mostly because of the accepting nature of friends and family when dealing with childhood obesity.

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Accepting that society has an obesity problem and attempting to deal with it is one thing, but treating individual's as less than equal because they have a problem that happens to be visually obvious is just wrong.

Which I already addressed in my post. Hate the sin not the sinner, so to speak. You can disaprove of the person being fat while still treating them as humans. I just don't feel that we should be so accepting of the life styles that lead to people being fat and shouldn't celebrate those that are as being "natural" or in some way good because they don't accept the unrealistic body images portrayed by the evil media. And you see that all the time in current PC movements.
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I've always been attracted to curvy-- what many would consider "chubby" women so I might be a bit biased, but being obese, to me, is a bit different. The problem here is; there does not seem to be a clear line between being a little overweight and being "obese." It's almost like it's left entirely to the eye of the beholder.

How can someone judge a person's weight just by looking at them without knowing what factors contribute to their appearance? I doubt any person who is overweight to an extent that it makes them uncomfortable in some way wants to be overweight. It could be associated with some form of mental illness, or a physical condition that makes it extremely difficult for them to maintain what most would consider normal weight. The same can be said for people who are extremely skinny.

Then there are things to consider like a person's social status. A family that cannot afford to eat healthy "real" food will resort to eating whatever mass produced junk food they can get a hold of. This has become another one of those "you aren't poor if you own a television" sort of things where if you're fat you obvious are doing well hurr hurr ****** logic.
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Perception: Skinny women are 'unhealthy', skinny men simply have a high metabolism.
The skinny men aren't in danger of being crushed by their persecution complexes.

I was in danger of being crushed by my wife while she still had her baby weight...
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I've always been attracted to curvy-- what many would consider "chubby" women so I might be a bit biased, but being obese, to me, is a bit different. The problem here is; there does not seem to be a clear line between being a little overweight and being "obese." It's almost like it's left entirely to the eye of the beholder.

How can someone judge a person's weight just by looking at them without knowing what factors contribute to their appearance? I doubt any person who is overweight to an extent that it makes them uncomfortable in some way wants to be overweight. It could be associated with some form of mental illness, or a physical condition that makes it extremely difficult for them to maintain what most would consider normal weight. The same can be said for people who are extremely skinny.

Then there are things to consider like a person's social status. A family that cannot afford to eat healthy "real" food will resort to eating whatever mass produced junk food they can get a hold of. This has become another one of those "you aren't poor if you own a television" sort of things where if you're fat you obvious are doing well hurr hurr **** logic.


The money issue certainly is valid. In the US, "healthy" food is usually more expensive than, say, a McDouble. Calorie per dollar, the junk food is going to go farther than fruits and veggies will. I'm not sure I buy into the mental illness / physical condition argument though. There are certainly those who exist who are overweight/underweight because of some condition outside of their control, but I don't think they are the majority. I'm of the opinion that the majority of the obese are so because they don't try to be otherwise or don't know how to be otherwise; I think those who are running into brick wall limitations because of their body/mental state are a small minority.

I'd love to see data on this, though, I haven't been able to find much myself (though it's been a really quick google, not very in depth, I'll admit).
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