lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
You do see the comparison, right?
Okay, and considering how you're adamantly, if not
furiously, against the government infringing on a state's rights to recognize or not a g
ay marriage certificate, then we can infer that you're also against the government's infringement of a state's rights on whether they acknowledge an out of state concealed carry permit, correct? After all, I'd hate for you to appear as though your positions are based purely on ridiculously predictable political bias and your vaunted consistency be questioned.
That applies in the other direction though, right? if you are
furiously in support of the argument that a marriage license granted in State A must be honored in State B, then you should also
furiously support the argument that a concealed carry permit granted in State A also be honored in State B. Right?
For the record though, my positions are based on whether the state is being obligated to do something in response to said legal status, or simply allowing someone to do something because of said legal status. I guess it's yet another case of the positive versus negative rights thing. The right to carry a concealed handgun is a negative right. The state only has to agree to *not* arrest and/or prosecute the person for carrying a concealed handgun. Requiring the state to grant marriage benefits to a group of people is a positive right issue. The state is being obligated to do something *for* that person, not just not do something *to* them. Totally different cases.
For the sake of completeness sake though, I don't think that a concealed weapons permit granted in State A should be honored in any state that does not have any sort of concealed weapons permit process at all. However, a reasonable case could be made that if a state does grant concealed weapon permits, that it ought to honor the same if granted in another state. And this case is strengthened by the very same arguments being used for marriage licenses. That's the point I was making. IMO, the argument for CC is actually stronger than that for GM since the former merely requires that the state allow someone to do something, while the latter requires that the state do something for the person in question.
I'm sure you disagree. Probably for some nutty reason though.