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#77 Jul 14 2016 at 8:33 PM Rating: Default
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Good times. But hey, lets put equivalency sign between those. Absolutely.
Yes. Given the equivalency made was in reference to the slogan, not unrelated actions.


I can misconstrue your statements myself, thank you very much.

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Good times. But hey, lets put equivalency sign between those. Absolutely.
Yes. Given the equivalency made was in reference to the slogan, not unrelated actions.


I can misconstrue your statements myself, thank you very much.

Edited, Jul 14th 2016 10:27pm by angrymnk
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I was fishing for compliments for a while now. *blush*
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#79 Jul 15 2016 at 6:05 AM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry that you have to work at getting compliments. Then again, it supports how you post and solidifies my assumption on why you post. Man I'm awesome (protip: Give yourself compliments!)
#80 Jul 15 2016 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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Looks like a similar scenario played out in Baltimore. Only the shooter was downed, no civilians or cops or robots.
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Pretty sure this is the place to post this:

Megyn Kelly and D.L. Hughley have a heated discussion on Fox News.

mediamatters.org transcript wrote:
HUGHLEY: We were talking about the young man that just got murdered in Minnesota.
KELLY: And the rush to judgment and the assumption you know something when you don't actually know it.
HUGHLEY: Well first off, what I'll tell you is this. It is not uncommon for you all to see one thing. The only place racism doesn't exist is Fox News and the police department.
KELLY: Come on.
HUGHLEY: That's the only place. That's absolutely true.
KELLY: That's insulting. You just insulted millions of people watching this channel.
HUGHLEY: And you know what? I'm insulted by the things I hear on this network, so we're even. I could care less about insulting people that insult me on a daily basis.
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#82 Jul 15 2016 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks Obama.

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#83 Jul 15 2016 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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That wasn't Obama in that video, it was D.L. Hughley. Jeez, racist much?!?!

Edited, Jul 15th 2016 1:58pm by stupidmonkey
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#84 Jul 15 2016 at 2:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't be, because I watch Fox News. Obama is just that bad.

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Edited, Jul 15th 2016 2:00pm by someproteinguy
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#85 Jul 15 2016 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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I would rate you up, but what is the point?
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#86 Jul 15 2016 at 3:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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It could potentially entertain Xsarus.

Other than that I don't know if there's anyone left who would even notice.
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#87 Jul 15 2016 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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That would be a more meaningful strip if BLM itself wasn't essentially ignoring the burning-out-of-control-house of black on black crime while obsessing over the relatively small brush fire that is police shootings of blacks


You do realize that the expectations in a confrontation between an unarmed black man and a police officer should be held to a certain standard, because it is the police officers job, while two people of any color in a situation that leads to violence don't have that same standard, right?

In one situation, one of the two people involved has a duty to protect and serve.

In the other, it's just two people.

It's just so obvious.

Also, Why didn't I respond sooner? Because I couldn't be ars-ed to respond sooner, that's why!
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
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That would be a more meaningful strip if BLM itself wasn't essentially ignoring the burning-out-of-control-house of black on black crime while obsessing over the relatively small brush fire that is police shootings of blacks


You do realize that the expectations in a confrontation between an unarmed black man and a police officer should be held to a certain standard, because it is the police officers job, while two people of any color in a situation that leads to violence don't have that same standard, right?


Of course I do. But the strip in question raises a completely different issue (focusing fire fighting efforts where this is no fire, rather than where there is). It's fair to point out that by focusing the issue of "Black Lives Matter" almost exclusively on "blacks unfairly treated by cops" while ignoring the far far greater number of black lives lost to other causes, they're doing the exact same thing that strip accuses detractors of doing. This has nothing at all to do with any assessment of the relative treatment of blacks by cops. I'm just looking at the strip.


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In one situation, one of the two people involved has a duty to protect and serve.

In the other, it's just two people.


Sure. Again though, by claiming a label of "Black Lives Matter", the organization makes it appear as though their motivation is based on, you know, Black Lives Mattering. Which, one would think, should involve some kind of assessment of what causes the most loss or harm to black lives, and focusing attention there.

If their group was called "Stop Racist Cops", then they'd at least be more honest about their objectives. But them, they'd have a harder time recruiting people, or gaining positive support in the media and by politicians, for the exact same associative labeling reason I argued earlier. We've seen them repeatedly use the label as a means to attack those who question their actions. So yeah, I think it's fair to point out that the label doesn't match those actions. Someone can disagree with the actions and agenda of the organization called "Black Lives Matter", without disagreeing with the statement "black lives matter". Because the agenda clearly isn't as simple as "black lives matter", right?

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It's just so obvious.


It should be. But unfortunately, even in the context of the issue of police interactions with black people, we tend to see less examination of facts, and more recitation of slogans and chants, and angry proclamations that anyone who doesn't side with them doesn't agree that "black lives matter" and should be condemned as a racist hater. Which I find to be a pretty cowardly tactic. Sadly though, it's one that works well in our politically correct obsessed culture.


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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
Pretty sure this is the place to post this:

Megyn Kelly and D.L. Hughley have a heated discussion on Fox News.

mediamatters.org transcript wrote:
HUGHLEY: We were talking about the young man that just got murdered in Minnesota.
KELLY: And the rush to judgment and the assumption you know something when you don't actually know it.
HUGHLEY: Well first off, what I'll tell you is this. It is not uncommon for you all to see one thing. The only place racism doesn't exist is Fox News and the police department.
KELLY: Come on.
HUGHLEY: That's the only place. That's absolutely true.
KELLY: That's insulting. You just insulted millions of people watching this channel.
HUGHLEY: And you know what? I'm insulted by the things I hear on this network, so we're even. I could care less about insulting people that insult me on a daily basis.


Also, 'it is very dangerous when you paint with a broad brush'.
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gbaji wrote:
...even in the context of the issue of police interactions with black people, we tend to see less examination of facts, and more recitation of slogans and chants, and angry proclamations that anyone who doesn't side with them doesn't agree that "black lives matter" and should be condemned as a racist hater. Which I find to be a pretty cowardly tactic.
I'm ok with your statement there.

On you on-board with mine that being a racist hater and refusing to publicly acknowledge that fact is also pretty cowardly?


Put another way: Do you honestly think that of all the people who don't agree that "black lives matter" none of then are racist haters?

Edited, Jul 15th 2016 9:42pm by Bijou
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Do you honestly think that of all the people who don't agree that "black lives matter" none of then are racist haters?
I'm absolutely sure many that disagree with BLM are "racist haters". Hell, I too hate racists, so I disagree with the Black Lives Matter organization. Smiley: tongue


But in seriousness. Apparently Nice was simply done to take attention away from BLM, or at least so sayeth their crazy fringe. Edit: They did the same thing after Paris as well, bee tee dubs.

Edited, Jul 16th 2016 12:59am by Poldaran
#92 Jul 16 2016 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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Of course I do. But the strip in question raises a completely different issue (focusing fire fighting efforts where this is no fire, rather than where there is). It's fair to point out that by focusing the issue of "Black Lives Matter" almost exclusively on "blacks unfairly treated by cops" while ignoring the far far greater number of black lives lost to other causes, they're doing the exact same thing that strip accuses detractors of doing. This has nothing at all to do with any assessment of the relative treatment of blacks by cops. I'm just looking at the strip.
The strip addresses the attack that the label "all lives matter" should be used as opposed to "black lives matter". The counter being that "yes, all lives matter, but right now, we're focusing on black lives". You're going into the argument of the existence of "black lives matter" (the organization/movement). That's not what the strip is addressing.

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Sure. Again though, by claiming a label of "Black Lives Matter", the organization makes it appear as though their motivation is based on, you know, Black Lives Mattering.
Until now, you still don't understand the purpose of the organization. It's about justice. When a black person commits a crime (i.e., attacks a black person), that black person goes to jail for a long time. Justice is done. When a white person kills a black person, it's the black person's fault. In either scenario, the perception is that black lives are disposable.
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Edited, Jul 16th 2016 9:23am by Jophiel
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...you still don't understand the purpose of the organization. It's about justice. When a black person commits a crime (i.e., attacks a black person), that black person goes to jail for a long time. Justice is done. When a white person kills a black person, it's the black person's fault. In either scenario, the perception is that black lives are disposable.


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Gbaji: Earning the GOP that 5% black vote for over fifteen years...

Edited, Jul 16th 2016 9:23am by Jophiel


But hey, Trump is getting a large percentage of those five percents.
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Yes, the fact that I posted a video dumbing it down for Gbaji to the teenager level will give you infinitely more credibility the next time you cite a Tweet from the Whitespiracy-Report saying that BLM protestors hired Zoe Quinn to murder Trump.
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That'll make them less nervous.

Speaking of things calming nervous trigger fingers, police cruiser firebombed near a mosque in Florida and a "Black Lives Matter note" was found, and apparently an Oklahoma bomb squad is on scene near a Tulsa Air National Guard base where a woman is driving around with an "unknown device."

Edited, Jul 18th 2016 2:23pm by lolgaxe
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Yes, the fact that I posted a video dumbing it down for Gbaji to the teenager level will give you infinitely more credibility the next time you cite a Tweet from the Whitespiracy-Report saying that BLM protestors hired Zoe Quinn to murder Trump.
At least I'm not linking the video version of a Chick Tract. Smiley: tongue
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