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#52 Nov 08 2016 at 10:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Should be an interesting four years.


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#53 Nov 08 2016 at 11:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, how many of you still want to eliminate the filibuster?
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#54 Nov 08 2016 at 11:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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You just had to have the Cubs win.
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#55 Nov 09 2016 at 1:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is pretty much the end for humanity. In a hundred years this planet won't be habitable.
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#56 Nov 09 2016 at 1:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I may be mistaken, but it looks like Republicans have a majority in both the house and senate now as well. I guess I better find my draft card.
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#57 Nov 09 2016 at 1:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to congratulate Gbaji on having his candidate elected to the Presidency.
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#58 Nov 09 2016 at 7:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow. I have this uneasy feeling. On the one hand, my wish that HRC is not the president came true. On other, DT did. Remind me why do I dislike the current system?

Also, how long till ppl on the hill figure out that he can't be managed and controlled and install Pence instead?

Also#2, WS is in full panic mode.

Should be an interesting ride.

Edited, Nov 9th 2016 8:53am by angrymnk
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#59 Nov 09 2016 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to congratulate Gbaji on having his candidate elected to the Presidency.
At the very least the next four years of conservatives walking back their comments about Trump should be fun to watch.

Also, it's 11/9.

Edited, Nov 9th 2016 9:10am by lolgaxe
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#60 Nov 09 2016 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow. I have this uneasy feeling. On the one hand, my wish that HRC is not the president came true. On other, DT did. Remind me why do I dislike the current system?
You know there are places in the world where people don't get to choose which group of billionaires steal their money. We should all be thankful we live in a place where we do.

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At the very least the next four years of conservatives walking back their comments about Trump should be fun to watch.
This is going to be my favorite part as well, a lot of people were betting on him losing. Didn't turn out that way, now they'll have to work with him.

Smiley: popcorn

Anyway, today is the day I get to try and convince my liberal friends the world isn't going to explode/collapse/etc. Wish me luck. Smiley: rolleyes
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#61 Nov 09 2016 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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The Absolute Madman actually did it! Smiley: yippee
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Do you hear the people sing
Lost in the valley of the night?
It is the music of a people
Who are climbing to the light.

For the wretched of the earth
There is a flame that never dies.
Even the darkest night will end
And the sun will rise.

They will live again in freedom
In the garden of the Lord.
We will walk behind the ploughshare;
We will put away the sword.
The chain will be broken
And all men will have their reward.

Will you join in our crusade?
Who will be strong and stand with me?
Somewhere beyond the barricade
Is there a world you long to see?
Do you hear the people sing?
Say, do you hear the distant drums?
It is the future that they bring
When tomorrow comes!
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So what happens then? Does trump nuke spain?
He had better wait until Amy Schumer moves there. Best not to waste a second nuke. Smiley: tongue

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Trump's going to win.
I'll take 'phrases I didn't think I'd hear 6 months ago' for $200 please.
I tried to tell you. But nooo, "crazy ol' Poldaran doesn't know how elections work" and "there's no way Poldaran's right. Trump will never win". Let's ask Walter. Hey Walt, was I right or was I goddamn right?
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I'm enjoying this.

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#62 Nov 09 2016 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm enjoying this.
I noticed. Smiley: lol

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someproteinguy wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Trump's going to win.
I'll take 'phrases I didn't think I'd hear 6 months ago' for $200 please.
I tried to tell you. But nooo, "crazy ol' Poldaran doesn't know how elections work" and "there's no way Poldaran's right. Trump will never win".
The shift in the polls in the last week or two took a lot of people by surprise I think. Hillary was looking cozy, then you saw a sudden shift in the responses and Trump gained like 5 points overnight. Maybe something to be said for people not speaking out about their support for Trump? Or perhaps the last FBI thing eroded her support finally? Seems like a weird thing to finally break the camel's back though.

I'm sure I'll hear a lot of "racist" and "sexist" and whatnot today from disillusioned Clinton supporters, but I can't help but think they've squandered their opportunities. The world-wide backlash against globalization kind of finally hit home, and it's not surprising to see the forgotten middle class hit back against the establishment.


Edited, Nov 9th 2016 8:13am by someproteinguy
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#63 Nov 09 2016 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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The one I made last night.
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#64 Nov 09 2016 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm sure I'll hear a lot of "racist" and "sexist" and whatnot today from disillusioned Clinton supporters, but I can't help but think they've squandered their opportunities.
They've been using accusations of "racism" and "sexism" in lieu of actual policy arguments for at least much of the year. But they're still trying. Salt is flowing like water on my SJW family's Facebook feeds.

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The shift in the polls in the last week or two took a lot of people by surprise I think. Hillary was looking cozy, then you saw a sudden shift in the responses and Trump gained like 5 points overnight. Maybe something to be said for people not speaking out about their support for Trump? Or perhaps the last FBI thing eroded her support finally? Seems like a weird thing to finally break the camel's back though.

I'm sure I'll hear a lot of "racist" and "sexist" and whatnot today from disillusioned Clinton supporters, but I can't help but think they've squandered their opportunities. The world-wide backlash against globalization kind of finally hit home, and it's not surprising to see the forgotten middle class hit back against the establishment.
I'd seen the backlash coming, and the election was tipped strongly against the Dems the moment they chose the most establishment candidate possible to battle Trump during this year. If he had managed to stay on message and be a little less "spontaneous Trump", she wouldn't have had a chance from day 1. But he was bad at this and still managed to win handily.

Bernie was the right candidate for this election. He lacked her baggage, he was seen as anti-establishment and he had a lot of ideas progressives could really get behind. But they screwed him and elected Trump. ****, that third guy might have even have had a shot, since no one remembered enough about him to call him "establishment". Biden lacked the baggage and certainly couldn't be called nearly as "establishment" as Hillary, though I think "focused Donald" could have beaten either of the latter two.

Love it. Smiley: laugh
#65 Nov 09 2016 at 10:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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If he had managed to stay on message and be a little less "spontaneous Trump", she wouldn't have had a chance from day 1.
Yeah I think so too. He's had the unfortunate ability to put his foot in his mouth a little too much. I get the whole "spontaneous" thing helps you appear less establishment, and that's a good contrast to have, but it wasn't his strong point, especially when trying to sell himself in the general election.
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#67 Nov 09 2016 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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He almost looks darker than Obama in that picture. I guess it shouldn't be too much of a surprise, he's all fake-tanned and Obama is only half-black.
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#68 Nov 09 2016 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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#69 Nov 09 2016 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah that's one of the bigger divides in our country. Rural and Urban people just don't mix much, and there's not a lot of understanding about the realities of living in the different locations. It's not too surprising how one side could be pretty much blind to the problems faced by the other. That's another thing you can't really explain to people until they experience it for themselves.

One more thing you want to roll your eyes at in the whole "I don't understand why do they vote that way!" rhetoric. I mean, of course you don't, you're a well-educated person doing research at a hospital in a major metropolitan area. You've benefited from Obamacare, and increased funding for the sciences. Globalization is helping your collaborations with people around the world. None of those opportunities are available in a town of 500 people. Now that the lumber mill laid off most of its staff your best hope is to slowly work your way up to night manager at the hotel along the freeway. Etc, etc..

The decent jobs you could get without an education, and without moving to a major metropolitan area are largely gone. Ignore that problem long enough and things so sour for you politically.

Edited, Nov 9th 2016 12:48pm by someproteinguy
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#70 Nov 09 2016 at 3:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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#71 Nov 09 2016 at 5:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Welp, that was no fun. I don't feel bad about being wrong because all you have to go on are the signs and the signs looked like a Clinton win and the metrics like crowd size, etc never held up in the last couple previous cycles. Hell, the RNC was convinced that Trump was going to lose going into last night. [Edit: According to reports from inside the campaign today, Trump's own campaign thought was was going to lose going into last night] I hope Nate Silver's gig predicting baseball scores pays well.

Smash was wrong about Clinton not running/being nominated but right about her failing to be electable. I don't think Sanders was remotely electable either and while some people are on a "This is the DNC's fault" tear, the fact is that Sanders ran a half-assed vanity campaign until it looked like he might be actually getting traction and tried to turn it into a real campaign far too late. DWS wasn't the reason that Clinton got an extra couple million votes. Sanders would have been murdered in the general after getting virtually no negative campaigning against him in the primary. I don't know who might have won. O'Malley? Biden? Beats me.

Well, here's hoping that most of the insane shit Trump came up with was election rhetoric and he does a half decent job.

Edited, Nov 9th 2016 5:53pm by Jophiel
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#72 Nov 09 2016 at 5:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've been arguing your Sanders point all day. If he couldn't handle being the underdog, what more the front runner? He would have lost also.
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I don't think Sanders was remotely electable either and while some people are on a "This is the DNC's fault" tear, the fact is that Sanders ran a half-assed vanity campaign until it looked like he might be actually getting traction and tried to turn it into a real campaign far too late. DWS wasn't the reason that Clinton got an extra couple million votes. Sanders would have been murdered in the general after getting virtually no negative campaigning against him in the primary.


I think Daily Show had a very short, well made point, about the perception of Sanders. They played a few clips of him doing the usual politics, anti-immigrant comments, etc. And that the only reason he was looking so "good" was because no one was treating him like a serious candidate and actually looking at past statements that could be harmful or negative.

Not saying that he is a bad person by any means. Just that he knew how to play politics over his career and say what the electorate wanted to hear just like the rest of them. His outsider status wouldn't hold up to any serious scrutiny. He just played on the millennial vote during the primaries with cries for "Free College".
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#74 Nov 09 2016 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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[Edit: According to reports from inside the campaign today, Trump's own campaign thought was was going to lose going into last night]
Yeah, that's what I had heard as well. Even Trump himself was convinced he was going to lose up until the point where the numbers were coming back from places like NC/FL that showed him with lead that was larger than what the democratic candidate usually makes up with later returns. Remember seeing one reporter tweet that he had stepped away from everyone into a back room for a bit, and was trying to take it all in. Reality hitting home and all. Must have been quite the moment for him.
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Reality hitting home and all. Must have been quite the moment for him.


Part of me wonders if Trump was panicking like Garrison in the recent South Park episodes. Full on "OMG I'm actually going to win? WTF am I going to do now?"
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Reality hitting home and all. Must have been quite the moment for him.

"Oh fuck, what do I do? What do I do? It wasn't supposed to end like this, fuck what do I do?" Smiley: grin
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