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#1 May 23 2010 at 6:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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You killed the thread!
#2 May 23 2010 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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Pud wrote:
You killed the thread!

What is the meaning of this... wounder who reported us...
#3 May 23 2010 at 9:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow. I'm absolutely awestruck right now.
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Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#4 May 23 2010 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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...wow.



....crap, now I lost the game too.
#5 May 23 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lame!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#6 May 23 2010 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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I PM'd Kao, asking for an unlock if we (Chew) behave ourselves. He said we "could start a new thread if there is no spamming" but he won't unlock the old one..

So, over 30 pages down the drain.. At least it wasn't over 9000.
#7 May 23 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Restarting the 10k pages... lets leave it at 1k pages.. would be more reasonable...
#8 May 23 2010 at 2:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kinda lost it's charm now. I'm a bit disgusted. I would explain why but I'm just posting from my phone during break.
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Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#9 May 23 2010 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
You are disgusted couse you used the thread as lolblog?
#10 May 23 2010 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
That's just plain stupid, honestly, considering we were allowed to a hundred pages of the same thing in the Garuda forums. Double Standard less, lock the Asylum, etc.
#11 May 23 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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That's just plain stupid, honestly, considering we were allowed to a hundred pages of the same thing in the Garuda forums. Double Standard less, lock the Asylum, etc.


Well, to be completely fair, our server isn't on the verge of closing. That aside, it's a shame it's locked. Quite liked the way it looked and went on.
#12 May 23 2010 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are personal journals moderator free? We could potentially have a thread in someones journal, which should technically be safe from any moderation.

Not sure if rate-ups work though, not that anyone would be rampantly rating everything up Smiley: sly
#13 May 23 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Excellent
Journals are exempt from karma, so I would assume a thread started in there would be relatively safe.
#14 May 23 2010 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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I am shocked and disgusted. 10k pages was an awesome thread. It's the most active that I've ever been on these forums, plus it's given me a chance to meet a bunch of fellow Lakshmi players.

/fume.
#15 May 23 2010 at 4:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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meriston wrote:
You are disgusted couse you used the thread as lolblog?

That's not quite fair. That last page was first time I had made a string of back-to-back posts, except when replying to multiple posts/authors previously. Also, I had hardly even posted for the last few days.
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Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#16 May 23 2010 at 5:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was planning on getting a premium account just to post pictures (for teh lulz) in the thread despite people trying to talk me out of it.

:|
#17 May 23 2010 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not really disgusted anymore, more just facepalming at the situation.

I've grown tired of =10 and the same new posts being made every week. I check it on Happy Fridays for the comic now (you rock, Thayos). The job forums pertaining to me have 1-2 new threads every week, sometimes less, and it's always a short discussion about whether +1 This is better than -1 That while fighting Whatever.

10K was a fun thread, everybody posting and reading it was having a good time. It gave me reason to check Alla multiple times a day, instead of once a morning. We're off in a little tiny corner of Zam in a rarely-visited server forum. In the past, Lakshmi boards have gone days or weeks without even a post. Before the Valdan thread and since it's demise, Lakshmi board has been a deserted wasteland.

Finally a fun thread comes along, craving an unobtainable 10K pages. "Is it possible?" it asked.

"No! But let's have fun trying!"

We agreed to do some massive spamming while trying to behave. We were cheered on by one admin(my signature is totally relevant here Smiley: tongue), and accompanied by another. We told some jokes, shared some ASCII, got fat on cookies, watched RDD get stoned and drunk, shared snippets of RL, complained about work, bragged about conquests, and had a lot of contributors. Because of 10K I have /befriended 4 native Garudians and 2 native Lashmians that I never would have met otherwise, and I now proudly display them in my in-game Friends List. There's even a few more I've been meaning to add.

There wasn't a single case of flaming, nor a single troll. There was no speak of third-party tools or other illegal in-game activities. We were out of everyone's way, not causing a bit of harm. I even agreed with Fynlar once.

Did the thread need a bit of moderation? Perhaps.

Did the thread need to be killed? Absolutely not.

We made no attempt to hide our +1ing, and even cheered each other on. Hell, it was practically the theme of the thread since the first few pages. But why the lock? A simple "C'mon guys. This is getting out of hand. Cut it out." would have worked just fine. But in 32 pages we never received a warning, even with admins contributing to the thread. Instead, it gets locked.

Over-moderation has been a massive source of complaints in Alla forums (ZAM, whatever) for a long time now. I don't really think the term fits; I would call it overly-aggressive moderation. I've only been a regular poster on Alla for 12-18 months or so, but I'm quite sure I've seen hundreds of posters complaining about it. Threads get locked or nuked because of a single poster or even a single post. Often times it's a completely innocent situation, but the admin doesn't play that specific game and therefore doesn't fully understand it; so apparently the solution is to just kill it instead of passing it on to someone who does understand.

/rant off

tl;dr version: Everybody's fun didn't have to be ruined because a couple of us were naughty.

Edit: took a testy part out lol

Edited, May 23rd 2010 9:59pm by chewzer
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Fynlar wrote:
Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#18 May 23 2010 at 6:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Funny how our threads are always locked by a global admin instead of the FFXI admins...
#19 May 23 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Good
Obviously the mod didn't read the last 32 pages of blatant +1 spamming. Or the fact that there's 3 mods that regularly visit our forums since they're on our server. ZAM is getting more and more ridiculous as each day passes, it's like I'm living under a communist regime.

First it was getting muted for +1'ing. OK fine I probably had it coming. Then adblock discussion is banned. Now 10k thread is locked at the whim of a random mod. Next thing you're going to tell me is criticism against SE is banned since they occasionally read these forums.
#20 May 23 2010 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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The adblock discussion thing was repealed, as I strongly suspected it would be -- there was just no way something like that would stand with the userbase.

Simply bringing up the rule sparked up way more adblock discussion than there's ever been on the entire history of this site, I'd bet.
#21 May 23 2010 at 7:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fynlar wrote:
The adblock discussion thing was repealed

Oh, nice! I never spoke up about it (no urge to post in =10 recently), I felt it was a move that wasn't thought out very well. In very poor taste, as well.
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Fynlar wrote:
Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#22 May 24 2010 at 6:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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We could also just turn this topic into a 10k pages thread...

Think about it, a 10k page thread named "Damn you Chew!". You'll be famous for all of eternity, Chew!
#23 May 24 2010 at 10:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I would be honored to be cussed at in the topic of such a thread.
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Fynlar wrote:
Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#24 May 24 2010 at 11:52 AM Rating: Excellent
Sad tofu is sad.
#25 May 24 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
Sad tofu is sad.

We all know what can make tofu happy again...
#26 May 24 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent
Szabo wrote:
The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
Sad tofu is sad.

We all know what can make tofu happy again...

I'm game... Smiley: sly
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