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#402 Sep 01 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Sure it was going to be true, but I didn't expect it to be spot on.


I actually kind of like it. So many flashy pretty abilities, such odd powers from various shikai and bankai.. I find it to actually be kind of interesting to see something that isn't a massive spiked club, a giant sword, a gun, a magical bladestorm of doom, etc, to see something that is just a regularly shaped katana backed with amazing strength and speed is certainly a tad more bad-ass(especially for now without the "Onoz I am scared of my hollow side/scaring my friends/ dying without beating the bad guy") but also kind of interesting and unique.. We can take the pokemon route with everyone elses Zanpakutou, it is interesting to see Ichigo remain relatively to the point.
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So far, it looks like this fight is going to boil down to Ichigo curb-stomping Aizen, all while Aizen is wondering what the **** is going on.

At least, until he stops caring and goes One Winged Angel Butterfly on us.
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#404 Sep 01 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Good
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I want Aizen to use more Kido; that might make it interesting. Anyway, Ichigo is currently too **** for this fight to end in his favor.
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I want Aizen to use more Kido; that might make it interesting. Anyway, Ichigo is currently too **** for this fight to end in his favor.


Agreed, and agreed. A physical fighter vs a mage type (which is what Kido users always struck me as) would be pretty good. Unless it's all "MEGA POWERFUL SPELL CASTING OF DOOMY DARKNE- Did you just break my megaspell with one sword swipe?"
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#406 Sep 01 2010 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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"I'm better than you" is so boring that I want to throw my computer.
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Lolgaxe is right, but I said it better.
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I wouldn't think Ichigo is arrogant. It boils down to facts, and fact is that Ichigo is currently stronger than Aizen. Aizen threatened his friends and Ichigo must now beat his **** He strikes me as rather apathetic as it stands.

Overall this was a rather cool chapter, but it's too easy. If this was all it took to beat the villain that kicked just about every character's ass, yeah, well, we might as well continue reading Bleach with Ichigo as a main character in the position of Captain Commander...
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#409 Sep 02 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't think Ichigo is arrogant. It boils down to facts, and fact is that Ichigo is currently stronger than Aizen. Aizen threatened his friends and Ichigo must now beat his **** He strikes me as rather apathetic as it stands.

Overall this was a rather cool chapter, but it's too easy. If this was all it took to beat the villain that kicked just about every character's ass, yeah, well, we might as well continue reading Bleach with Ichigo as a main character in the position of Captain Commander...


Yes, but...

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#410 Sep 02 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't think Ichigo is arrogant. It boils down to facts, and fact is that Ichigo is currently stronger than Aizen. Aizen threatened his friends and Ichigo must now beat his **** He strikes me as rather apathetic as it stands.


I don't think he is really apathetic. He is just maintaining a relatively emotionless composure, to some extent taking satisfaction in the fact that the person who claimed to control his life is now shocked, scared, confused that things are not going exactly as he had planned. What had before for Aizen was a puppet and at worst an inconvenience is now unexpectedly putting a stop to his entire plan.

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"I'm better than you" is so boring that I want to throw my computer.


It always boils down to something like this in almost everything.
- I am Stronger than you.
- I am faster than you.
- I am smarter than you.
- My powers have a more hax ability than you.
- I have more people on my side than you.

Its boring because you continue to think about this pattern in most serious anime and manga.
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#411 Sep 02 2010 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Its boring because you continue to think about this pattern in most serious anime and manga.


I actually think it's boring specifically because it happens so often with Ichigo and Aizen. =/
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#412 Sep 09 2010 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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All I can really say about this chapter is "Yawn". =/
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#413 Sep 09 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
Aizen looked cool for a minute there >.>
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#414 Sep 09 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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Plot goes so slow that it'll probably start going backwards again.

That's a "cue flashback" prediction, just in case it was too subtle.
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#415 Sep 09 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Well at least Aizen may be shifting away from being a bishonen butterfly now..
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#416 Sep 09 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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You have to admit, that first panel that we see Aizen's skull pushed out of his face was a pretty **** badass One Winged Angel.

It went downhill from there, yeah, but I still liked most of this chapter.

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#417 Sep 15 2010 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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Oh that was pretty hilarious. So little of this makes any internal sense. However since the old laws of the universe has been so thoroughly discarded at this point, it does leave room to take the story in a completely different direction. That'd be nice, even though it won't happen. Ichigo could become a demigod now unable to connect with his previous friends and world--growing as a character for the first time ever--with the story shifting onto new protagonists while he becomes a sort of antihero sideline character. Of course that won't though, because it'd be interesting and clever.

Edited, Sep 15th 2010 7:26pm by Allegory
#418 Sep 15 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Good
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This is why I read Bleach. Not for the plot. Not for the action.

I read for the asspulls.
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#419 Sep 15 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Good
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I find it hilarious and I love it. I think Tite Kubo is just embracing the absurdity now and running with it, which is just fine with me.
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Oh that was pretty hilarious. So little of this makes any internal sense. However since the old laws of the universe has been so thoroughly discarded at this point, it does leave room to take the story in a completely different direction. That'd be nice, even though it won't happen. Ichigo could become a demigod now unable to connect with his previous friends and world--growing as a character for the first time ever--with the story shifting onto new protagonists while he becomes a sort of antihero sideline character. Of course that won't though, because it'd be interesting and clever.
I'd like Ichigo to decide that he doesn't want another Aizen incident, and rationalizes that him becoming a god and policing all sides of the equation is the only way to keep it from happening again. Fast forward several years to an apocalyptic wasteland and a new generation of (Insert new word for Shinigami/Human/Hollow hybrids) try to regain the world from his now iron fist rule. Not turn him into an antihero, or "I was being controlled by Blahblahblee" or anything. I want Ichigo to have a face-turn and be evil.

But what'll really happen is he'll have defeated Aizen, and his powers will "disappear" until the next Big Bad shows up and he has to train to regain his power again, but have some imposed limit to prevent him from using MuGenshou again until the very end, but THIS time it won't work/will work but won't drain him like last time so he'll be open for yet ANOTHER power upgrade when training with Goku.
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#421 Sep 22 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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Hm, did not quite expect that. Rather sick of the spontaneous rescues, but other than that a good chapter. Wonder how Bleach will end...
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#422 Sep 22 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Worst possible ending? Besides the random gotcha conclusion and using Kisuke as a finisher as a form of fan **** since he's so popular, I think Kube did two very awful things. First, he had Aizen sealed, which leaves room for him to return--please no. Second, he seems to have taken a different turn with Ichigo's new power. From the previous ambiguous and terrible explanations it seemed that Ichigo lost his shinigami powers in exchange for this new power, that is that he rose above his old self. Now it seems like he may have lost it all, and we're going to have another eye twitchingly painful regaining-his-power arc.
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Don't worry, he'll just run around the track for a few hours and then a cUntsman will arrow him 2 inches above the heart and he'll get his powers back.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2010 9:54pm by Deadgye
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#424 Sep 22 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, it makes me sad. I don't even know what to say. :(
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My prediction is that the Hogyo-however the **** you spell it abandoned Aizen and allowed him to be sealed because it knew that Ichigo had beaten him. Thus, it'll choose Ichigo as it's new master ("Ichigo! I choose you!") and it's magical ass-pull properties will give him his powers back. Plus, there's no way Kubo's not using the final from of Ichigo's again. He'll find a way to get it back without drawbacks.

Plus, I don't think that Bleach is over yet. It's getting there, for sure, but there's still some stuff left to tie up, like what exactly the Soul King is, with his personal guard being the next chain of villains. Remember when they were talking about a, IIRC, 0th division?

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#426 Sep 23 2010 at 2:51 AM Rating: Good
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So... shouldn't he be all hollow now?
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#428 Oct 01 2010 at 3:26 AM Rating: Good
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My bet: Aizen absorbed Ichigo from the inside.
What probably happened: He's just sleepy and everything is okay until the next Big Bad.
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My bet: Aizen absorbed Ichigo from the inside.
What probably happened: He's just sleepy and everything is okay until the next Big Bad.


Could be hollow Ichigo having a go? Might be time to give Aizen a rest now.
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My bet: Aizen absorbed Ichigo from the inside.
What probably happened: He's just sleepy and everything is okay until the next Big Bad.


Could be hollow Ichigo having a go? Might be time to give Aizen a rest now.


I assumed something more along these lines. Afterall, we haven't seen him since the battle with Ulqiorra.
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Well, is Aizen going to break out of his prison early or will we have another villain to take his place? Will Ichigo's powers magically return?

Or is Bleach ending? haha fat chance

tune in next week to find out!

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Well, is Aizen going to break out of his prison early or will we have another villain to take his place? Will Ichigo's powers magically return?

Or is Bleach ending? haha fat chance

tune in next week to find out!

Edited, Oct 7th 2010 6:29am by Vataro


Two week hiatus...

Overall, this sucks. Yamamoto lost his left arm and still is the strongest shinigami...? Good thing he beat Aizen up the way he did or SS would all be doomed! Ukitake is fine after having a big hole in his chest? Gin, one of the coolest and most interesting characters is dead...? Ichigo lost his rather cool looking long hair and didn't even get so much as a THANK YOU for saving all of Soul Society?

I wasn't taking Bleach 'that' seriously, but this is silly.
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They're gonna go MGS and find out that one of Gin's arms is compatible with Yamamoto's body and graft it on as a replacement. Then Aizen's personality, which was implanted in Gin as backup plan #249231, starts to take over Yamamoto ala Liquid Ocelot.
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#434 Oct 07 2010 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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Okay. Thanks, MGS was on my 'to play' list.

That'd be somewhat cool plottwist, though...
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Okay. Thanks, MGS was on my 'to play' list.

That'd be somewhat cool plottwist, though...


Don't worry, I haven't spoiled the storyline for you.
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#436 Oct 07 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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His hair GREW shorter? Really? Okay, he (albeit temporarily) lost his powers. Buy why would it have to go into that? Is it a sly shout out to Goku's hair growing as he got more powerful, and shrinking as he powered down? I'd hate to admit it, but I hope that's what it is.

Also: Every character is alive except the one interesting one? Hiyori was TORN IN HALF and even she managed to survive, yet Gin not? Granted, I bet he'll come back as well, but ... ugh. Also: Hollow #10, who's name escapes me at the moment, wasn't completely obliterated when fighting both Kenpachi and Byakuya?

I hate when chapters end with so many questions, and none of them are actually about the storyline.

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I just hope they give his powers back a more interesting way then Orihime "rejecting" it or his father transferring powers over..
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#438 Oct 08 2010 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe they can kill Ichigo, and then he'll be able to become a full fledged shinigami in a few thousand years.
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Maybe they can kill Ichigo, and then he'll be able to become a full fledged shinigami in a few thousand years.


Nah, Yamamoto knows Ichigo's power and skill which would guarantee him at least a third seat position already and Yoruichi would probably flash train him back up to full strength.
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And, surprise surprise, the new arc starts. It does kind of make sense that Ichigo wasn't the only representative. There wouldn't be badges if there wasn't pre-established reasons, right? Or the Knock Out Glove Rukia used to use. I admit, I am a little interested.
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So, Dad, about that time where you saved me from death, we saved the world and I lost all my powers that you apparantly knew all about.

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Other than that, I'm interested in the new arc, but I just don't entirely get that part of the story.
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Why is it the "Lost" Shinigami Representative Badge arc though? =/
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Why is it the "Lost" Shinigami Representative Badge arc though? =/


Presumably because it was lost before or Ichigo loses it now? It must have some kind of meaning, and since no Shinigami barring Ukitake had ever heard of it before, it must not be all that common either.
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Why is it the "Lost" Shinigami Representative Badge arc though? =/


Presumably because it was lost before or Ichigo loses it now? It must have some kind of meaning, and since no Shinigami barring Ukitake had ever heard of it before, it must not be all that common either.



So, that's why when I read the chapter originally I thought he had taken Ichigo's... especially after the talk about how it was useless to Ichigo now. But I don't know when or how that would have happened.
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Vataro wrote:
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Why is it the "Lost" Shinigami Representative Badge arc though? =/


Presumably because it was lost before or Ichigo loses it now? It must have some kind of meaning, and since no Shinigami barring Ukitake had ever heard of it before, it must not be all that common either.



So, that's why when I read the chapter originally I thought he had taken Ichigo's... especially after the talk about how it was useless to Ichigo now. But I don't know when or how that would have happened.


They're not the same, Ichigo's shows signs of cracking, new guy's doesn't. Unless Kubo isn't that careful with details, but I doubt that.

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Seems like a fillerish arc to buy time for planning the next big villain. There's a good chance the most development we'll see here is Ichigo regaining powers.
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I'm hoping we get some much needed character development here and maybe some explanations from Hecto mundo that they never really delved into. Why are Chads powers similar to a hollows, why did he get them? Orahime also. Why do Ichigos dad and Ishada's Dad know each other. Why is his dad in our world, ETC.

Honestly I'm sort of happy Kubo reset Ichigo, none of the other characters were relevant anymore. I don't think Ichigo is going to get back his full powers this time, I think hes gonna be stronger/ as strong as Tier 0 but everyone else will be right behind him in power. Maybe.

I think i read an interview that there was 2 more arcs before Bleach would end, I might be off though.
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I'm hoping we get some much needed character development here and maybe some explanations from Hecto mundo that they never really delved into. Why are Chads powers similar to a hollows, why did he get them? Orahime also. Why do Ichigos dad and Ishada's Dad know each other. Why is his dad in our world, ETC.


Chad's grandfather is probably the same as Isshin Kurosaki: came to the world of the living, fell in love with a human woman, got help/gigai from Kisuke Urahara, fathered children, etc. Chad is essentially Ichigo, but from the other end of the spirit power spectrum.

Ichigo and Uryu's fathers probably met the same way as their kids did, they seem to have the same type of relationship. Orihime is probably the descendant of one of the Soul Society's royal family, hence the ability to alter reality.

That's my view on their origins.

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I'm hoping we get some much needed character development here and maybe some explanations from Hecto mundo that they never really delved into. Why are Chads powers similar to a hollows, why did he get them? Orahime also. Why do Ichigos dad and Ishada's Dad know each other. Why is his dad in our world, ETC.


Chad's grandfather is probably the same as Isshin Kurosaki: came to the world of the living, fell in love with a human woman, got help/gigai from Kisuke Urahara, fathered children, etc. Chad is essentially Ichigo, but from the other end of the spirit power spectrum.

Ichigo and Uryu's fathers probably met the same way as their kids did, they seem to have the same type of relationship. Orihime is probably the descendant of one of the Soul Society's royal family, hence the ability to alter reality.

That's my view on their origins.

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I sincerely doubt we'll ever find out or if we do, if it's been something like that. Keep in mind their powers were already explained by Aizen. They've been around the Hougyoku and Ichigo's massive reiatsu for a longer period of time. If Kubo would add specific reasons, every character with some amount of spiritual pressure would need a remotely interesting backstory, it's not happening.

Something that hit me this morning, one of the very early aspects of shinigami was their cleansing/purifying human or hollow souls. Okay, makes sense. Quincy, however, just killed any hollow and therefore had no chance to cleanse their spirits. This has now been shoved aside because the Shinigami in Karakura is unreliable and an idiot, which means any hollow loses his chance at a second attempt in Soul Society... That doesn't sound like something that should just go down very well with the cast.
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I sincerely doubt we'll ever find out or if we do, if it's been something like that. Keep in mind their powers were already explained by Aizen. They've been around the Hougyoku and Ichigo's massive reiatsu for a longer period of time. If Kubo would add specific reasons, every character with some amount of spiritual pressure would need a remotely interesting backstory, it's not happening.


Wouldn't necessarily need an interesting back-story. Others from soul society and elsewhere throughout the ages have occasionally fallen in love with humans and produced offspring, resulting in their bloodline(albeit diluted) passing on through their descendant, awakened by the unnatural amount of reiatsu radiating from Ichigo.

Done.
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I'm pretty sure Kubo just forgot about the purification aspect.

I just want a story arc, even if its part of a subplot, about Kenpachi and his sword. A little more on Chad's and Orihime's powers would be interesting as well.
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