End-game LS List (HNM, Dynamis, Sky, et al)Follow

Chib, Lifestream farms directly after Impulse Tuesday Nights. Its been like that for more then a year.

Mar 05, 2006: Added COP LS SeaSeekers..... (Rivendell) ..... http://s15.invisionfree.com/SeaSeekers_CoP_LS/
Updated COP LS Prishe ........ (Oneiros) ....... http://www.prishe.animespirit.org/


I could've sworn there were more, about time someone finally said something ^^

Seems like the nearly three weeks since this incident happened has clouded your memory of how it happened. I will agree yes that the initial reaction of our members wasn't the greatest but what do you expect when people are "yelling" and cursing at you in /tells (which all of your ulli camp members were) but that lasted maybe 2 minutes. If you aren't going to put up with slander and people cursing then care to explain your leaders reaction(and yeah we actually have our stuff frapped). After the initial lash out from your LS was over and after a more then civil conversation with Ladiyuna(thanks again Ladi for being so kind and representing your LS better then your leaders), there was a discussion with Hexfury. Out of this discussion we apologized for not talking to you first, we left Ulli camp because of the confusion and we informed Hex that we needed Zip which he was fine with as long as we left Ulli camp. Also it was clear on both our parts that something was going to have to change so that Saturday would work for both of us.

Hime I don't know who you are, or where you came up with all this BS but obviously you're just trying to stir the pot on something thats weeks old. None of your leaders were cursed out or slandered, no one said they were gonna tell Kupo on you(but thanks for the laugh), the only thing Kupo did was lend us a hand with some mediation at the start. Not sure what you're doing coming here as a "leader" representing your LS in a situation you weren't even involved in(none of our leaders spoke to you), trying to start something up again that is passed, trying to flame my LS, you must be pretty proud.

It's a shame that Hexfury couldn't just stick to what we discussed and stick to being a pretty nice guy like he pretended to be in our conversations. Convenient how the /blist goes up when you break an agreement you made 1 hour previous and you steal an NM from other people who really pose no threat to your "establishment" as we're just trying to have a good time, play by the rules and do what we can in endgame. You speak of respect and you are right you deserve but not because you are an "old, large hnm/skyls". Everyone deserves respect because there's real people behind every character in this game but I think your LS has lost alot of the respect you think it "deserves" because of it's actions. You had one person that day, Ladiyuna, who acted like a real respectful person, who was pleasant to talk to and who represented herself(himself?) better as a leader of a LS then any of the others.

As stated above we'll continue to farm Saturday's and we're more then reasonable people to deal with. Rather then coming and making up stuff to try to make your LS appear better maybe you should put your efforts into working something out that will work for everyone. We have tried on our part to talk this out but you guys chose to ignore everything you said, /blist people and break your agreements. Balls in your court.

Feel free to contact Rzn or Jak ingame if you want to handle this in a respectful manner.

reading back in this thread i see alot of posts by decimationLS arguing with FarBeyondDriven about farm times and sh*t. I also see kupo members stepping in and moderating. But i never once saw a singu member approve of giving either LS a time slot. Im sry but Kupo has no business telling when u can farm.

Being an ex-singu member myself, and a leader there at some point, i can tell u first hand of the hell that is saturday pop farming. JP shells are up there till about 3pmEST taking ur pops then return later in the night to take them some more. When i was in there we never allowed another LS to take part of saturday cause many times it would take 8+ hours to farm a pop set, cause of repops. And that sometimes didnt include ulli.

I know i basically have no business butting into this cause im for the most part not in good graces with singu leadership, nor know any deci leaders. I'm just stating that from the singu point of view ( which i know of first hand) that its really not a good idea to assume cause they start early that u can farm later that night. U need to discuss it with their leaders and not take their frustration so seriously cause u dont know what they have to deal with.

ROFLMAO

Mar 11, 2006: Updated MilkyTaru ..... (Mihoyoshioka) ... http://www.milkytaru.com/ (God DAYS unknown) SKY ONLY
Added Farming Days/Times 0800PST on Friday mornings for MilkyTaru

Just a slight correction , the time agreed to was 11 PM EST or
8 PM PST for Milkytaru , or 20:00 ? pst

Edited, Sat Mar 11 16:25:57 2006 by pauleee

As passed on from Tsujimura on behalf of Miho (i'm assuming):
Mar 16, 2006: Updated MilkyTaru Sky LS Farm/God times (Farming 1700 PST [2000EST] Friday, Gods 0700PST [1000EST] Saturday).

Mar 23, 2006: Added HNM LS FrozenSoul .... (Caio) ........... link to frozensouls website (it's long) (HNM only at this time)

Mar 24, 2006: Updated Dynamis LS Multiplicity Name to Divergence ... (Hexfury) ........ http://www.singularity-ls.com/ FRI 1700PST, (Sponsored Runs On TUE)
Updated NinthCircle ... (Caine) .......... http://ninthcircle.bluedragyn.net/forums/ (God DAYS unknown)

heh, just realized i had the days/times for gods in there, but i had forgotten to remove that from by the LS name. Thanks for noticing that (it's a big post) ww
Mar 25, 2006: Updated NinthCircle ... (Caine) .......... http://ninthcircle.bluedragyn.net/forums/ ~~ Added God DAYS/Times

Fixed, sorry, it seems i had an extra 3 at the end on the forums link.
That was just one of my proofreading mistakes ^^

Apr 22, 2006: First update in a long time. Removed Decimation from Saturday b/c there's been no attempt to
finalize their Saturday farming time. They already have Tuesday. Requested by some Decimation
members to "fix" my list. So I did.
Post an update to this list once you get times sorted out. Tuesday or Saturday for farming? Which is it?

Regarding farming times, I wasn't even AWARE that Decimation
DOES NOT farm Tuesday nights. Everyone with the exception of
a few people in the know THOUGHT that Decimation and FBD had come
to an agreement whereby Decimation would use Tuesdays.
(See Page 5 of this thread: Wed, Feb 8th 4:48 PM 2006 EST posted by DecimationLS).
Apparently there was some confusion regarding that post.

I believe the problem arose when this agreement came about without
knowledge of this by Singularity Leaders. Since this time it seems
that the leaders have been informed of this, but are having some
difficulty coming to some form of agreement on how to proceed.

I will inform my leaders of the information you posted here.

I appreciate you bringing the Tuesday issue to my attention so I
can keep my post up to date. I'm sure we can find some way to
work this out. I would like to see a conclusion to this. My
suggestion is to inform Hexfury in order to open a dialogue or
for Hexfury to try to do the same.

Removing the update from the post from earlier, I'll change it
to reflect the information given here.


Edited, Sun Apr 23 00:05:14 2006 by Yekyaa

Yekyaa please remove Decimation from our God Pop Day until they have come to an agreement with the actual leaders of Singularity which is Hexfury, Himesama, Ghostkiller or Valandil. Decimation has been told numerous times that those are the leaders. Also, "NO" none of the leaders of Singularity have approved Decimation farming on our day. Like the rest of the big SKY/HNM LSs Singularity couldn't care a less if other little SKY/HNM LS’s farm pop items after we are finished in sky but to compete with Singularity to claim pops means you are not respecting our farm day and you should not even be considered part of the sky alliance pact if they choose to continue on like this.

So the rest of the sky alliance understands where we of Singularity are coming from and what Singularity has been dealing with when it comes to Decimation. This is what has been happening for the past 3 months with them: Lately Decimation has been camping sky against Singularity... Yesterday 2006-04-22 Decimation camped against Singularity on Ulli. Singularity got claim and took him back to the teleporter room to kill him. The next thing Singularity realized was the whole Decimation LS was crowded into the little teleporter room blocking Singularity’s kiting path and trying to get Singularity killed while we were killing Ulli. Then Decimation informs Singularity that the stone should be theirs and that they will be back next week to camp against Singularity again... hmmm this is a "blatant disregard for the North American Sky Alliance Pact"!!! As for Singularity LS people that Decimation claims they made agreements with, they are not the leaders, which Decimation are fully aware of, so regardless if they did or did not make such an agreement it would not be official so stop playing stupid... it is very unbefitting for an adult or the spoke person for Decimation... Now instead of camping against us, Decimation could have been getting zip, despot, Faust, Steam Cleaner, etc... That would have been popping soon if they were looking to farm God Pops, (Morphus’s claim to Valandil that all they needed was Mother Globe and Ulli was a lie because the re-spawn times of the ones we had killed were not even close to be being ready to be up, hmm...) Instead Decimation was up camping against Singularity. What did it achieve?!? “Nothing”, because Singularity got claim and Decimation wasted hours that could of been more productive!!!

The reason Singularity has all day Saturday is because as numerous posts have mentioned Singularity camps against the whole JP server’s HNM/LS’s on Saturday >.< Singularity doesn’t need to be camping against people in the North American Sky Alliance Pact also!!!

Thank you all for enduring this childish farce on the behalf of Decimation... As I read back on the forums, Singularity is not the only ones that have had to deal with them… Now if Decimation wishes to speak and work out something then fine but until that time Singularity is formally requesting that Decimation be removed from the North American Sky Alliance Pact and from the God Pop time schedule… I will not address this issue again with Decimation on the forums. If they wish to work something out then they can message any of the aforementioned leaders on the game… Hexfury, Hime-sama, Valandil & Ghostkiller

With all due respect to every member of every Shell on Pandemonium,
I have always based my information on posts from the community, but
additions and removals of specific shells are typically by request
of that particular shell (check the backlog, I've done it before,
had their leader of that shell post here or tell me in-game to get
it edited/modified). Unless it seems unreasonable, ie 2-3 days
per shell just seems to make no sense (except in Deskjet's case b/c
they have EU players and NA players as explained in previous posts),
I have been more than willing to modify the post.

New shells will continue to pop up and unless everyone stops acting
like children and handles their drama in-game or somewhere else,
things will never change.

If everyone continues to be stubborn regarding any issue, no progress
is made. Decimation stays until something comes about. This is not
intended to make Singularity jump every time Decimation says to.
This is not intended to "empower" any particular shell over another.
That's just the way this list has been maintained for the past year.

My post, my rules. I should probably expect some backlashing from
my own shell for what seems to be "support" of Decimation's
position, but everyone believes what they want to, and that is NOT
what I'm doing. I don't think either shell has been too mature
regarding this issue as of recent.

In short:
My suggestion, fix it, or just ignore the REFERENCE list and do
your own thing. I'll continue to keep updates as information is
provided to me by the community. Ignore it, and I'll just remove
start times because they'll no longer be applicable. That in turn
may also alienate future members from your shells, not that too
many of the older shells care about that, seeing as how you're
all almost completely full and half of the shells here have
changed so many things around that my times may not be accurate.

GO GO GADGET WALL O' TEXT!!!

Oh and dont call me a fking liar either Hime. What Valandil said was to go get the other pop items. My response to that was that we have the other pop items and what we needed was MG, Faust and Ulli but MG and Faust werent up or recently killed before we got up to those spots(and not killed by our ls). So whats left? Ulli !!

Also that was ME who said to you guys that we will be back next weekend for all the drama to start over again. This isnt a disregard for the sky pact. You guys want ALL of saturday for yourself. Sorry its not gonna happen. What I said was "This drama isnt gonna end when both of our ls's need this drop. You dont need all of Saturday and if so we'll see you next week to do this all over again since we need this drop also". This isnt saying we dont care about sky pact its saying that there are 2 ls's that need this drop and my solution was to just "out claim us" and I even called Valandil and bada$$ claimer/voker !!

Dont go tellin us how and where to spend our time in sky. We have the other drops and if we camp something for a couple of hours and lose claim then we try again. Quit trying to bring us down Hime...

Dont go and call me a liar. Once again your stating that one sided views that you always like to do. God you really fking bug me............

Edited, Mon Apr 24 18:27:22 2006 by XmorpheussX

what u guy need to do is what 9thC and infidels do on wednesdays. A while back our 2 ls's got into a fight over ulli and when it actually popped and was killed. I was most likely popped on their time but was kill technically starting on our time. After a forum bitchfest for a few hours we came to an agreement. Each wednesday we alternate who gets ulli. After their farm time is over if they havent tagged ulli then they can farm that until it pops. And the following week we can farm ulli starting on their time and begin our regular pops at the regular time.

This to me would benifet both LS, especially if its only the 2 of u guys fighting for claim. This way everyone get what they want, and its taken care of in a civilized manor instead of requesting a shell being taken down from the sky pact list cause u think u can. Farming saturdays is tough with all the jp but if done right, ur LS's can both benifit with minimal drama.

I think that last post about sums up the whole problem where Singularity is completely unflexible, is greedy and refuses to share and thinks only of themselves and doesn't care if other people suffer because of it.

Personally I think its a great idea and i think our LS would be more then happy to fight 2 byakkos a month. BE thankful Mallyk that your LS has the opportunity to share a day with people who are willing to work with you rather then ignore you and claim ignorance.

Thanks for the input ^^

Look, I couldnt care one bit if I never fight another god again. Frankly I have had my fill of sky and it hasnt been fun for a long time. HOWEVER, I am still there every week for my LS because I know that they still need gear. I am not about to screw over my own LS by cutting down on the amount of pops we do, delaying the time it takes for them to get the gear they want even more. I get nothing for myself from fighting them so you really need to think about that greedy comment. I am one of the most ungreedy people you will ever meet so maybe think a bit before you make accusations about people you dont know.

If you really want to settle this then talk to me in game.

Edited, Tue Apr 25 18:37:03 2006 by usernamealreadyexists

I know we talked already..but i would really prefer if you did not farm during our time on sunday..because even though you say you only do genbu pop items i know it wont always be that way and you will be looking for more pop items.

However if you really cannot find an open slot we can work around sorting something out with zip. But try to find an open slot first although i know pickings are slim...

May 09, 2006: Epidemic ..... (Mallyk) ......... http://www.epidemic-ls.com/ TUE 1830PST

Btw, Could I get some form of update on what the word is on
the Ultimate Paradise god/pop farming time/days. I'm not sure what
GMT+2 translates to when compared to PST time.
I'll add to the list, but until I know what time that is here
it makes it slightly difficult to figure out where I should fit
that in.

Im looking to find a farming day for my linkshells soon to open SKY LS ive spent most of the evening / early hours of the morning (im in the UK) tracking down various LS leaders to try and resolve a farming day but at present the only people happy to allow us to farm is before impulse anytime upto 6pm EST (but this causes issues with a: being way to early and b: causing issues with the JP players)

What we are hoping for is to try and resolve a wednesday farm time, it seem that on most days more then 3 or 4 LS share farm days but only 2 share a wednesday one of them being 9th Circle, who farm from 3pm PST onwards.

My complaint is if other LS can share 4 slots in one farm day why can't 9th circle share wednesday night after them? surely if other LS can have 2-3 hr farm times then 9thC dont need from 3pm > rest of the day?

If 9th circle are willing to come to some agreement about a farm time after them that follows the rules of the pact then my ls's new sky shell will be happy to abide by that.

If not we are highly highly pushed for a farm day and i can see it stepping on someone else's toes somewhere along the way.

I would love to resolve this amicably as my LS do not want to start a war in sky we just want to benifit our members and abide by the pact. So if someone from 9th circle can get intouch with me ingame about this please do. Or if any other LS has an opening one night to farm they would be willing to let us share.
I've managed to organise a god day with another LS all that reamains now is to organise a farm day.

~ Snowfox

Edited, Tue May 16 00:52:58 2006 by MasterSnowfox

Beni, before i start this dont take any of this the wrong way i am not trying to start a fight with you i just want to claify the reasons for the post i made so they can be understood better.

The inital post i made was to research possible available farm times, to be considered by myself and the other leaders of my LS with the possibility of taking a free slot for the higher lever members of the shell to do sky, god activitys .etc
My LS shell holder is well aware im making enquirys about possible free times on behalf of the shell, and as far as we are concerned at present it is only a hypothetical idea to see what slots might be available and if they fit with the excisting LS timetable for us to work with them. We may decide that the available times dont suit us and decided not to branch out into sky just yet. We are simply throwing around ideas and suggestion because we have had the interest from our members about sky.

Its not for me personally you are right in the fact i havent completed the relevent ZM missions or of a high enough lv to participate. But you are wrong in believing that i simply lead promy missions.

Mallyk,

Thank for getting intouch in reply to my PM im glad we sorted the misunderstanding out ^^.




Edited, Wed May 17 12:14:57 2006 by MasterSnowfox