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#27 Jan 29 2009 at 5:18 PM Rating: Excellent
PangArt wrote:
Shukapooka wrote:

Seriously, if you reimburse that sh*t because a stranger had a bit of a cry to his friends about a stolen Hagun I will hadouken your face. It's his own problem if he wants to hold an entire linkshell accountable over the actions of one member; more than likely this guy is just a bit butthurt over the situation and has never even encountered any other members.


Ah, now that's the spirit of BG right there. Do you not see why your shell has such a bad rep? Aqaia asked for an example of something done wrong by the BG linkshell, I gave that example.

And no one expects reimbursement for the stolen item. They want the item returned.


Correction, thats the attitude of one person within the LS. You can't judge an entire LS by the actions of one person - If everyone did that, I doubt there woule be one linkshell in the entire game without a bad reputation. Shukapooka is not representative of the attitudes I see within the linkshell on a day to day basis, Aqaia is far closer to the average (although I'm not going to pretend we are all as kind, generous, and generally willing to help as she is - she really does go above and beyond the call of duty) .

Shukapooka is not a name I recognise from within the shell in my time there (apologies if you are posting under a different username than your FFXI character), and I rather resent the fact that you (and many other people) choose to judge us on one persons negative attitude , rather than focusing on the people that are actually attempting to be positive and resolve situations .

Of course, for the person without a Hagun, there is a problem - and a solution has been offered, which, while not ideal (and again, I wasn't a member at the time this whole thing went down) is still a FAIR solution . Yes, members are responsible for presenting the linkshell in a positive light , and I certainly think aqaia does that . Aqaia is a name I recognise, Shukapooka is not .

Either way, you can't judge a whole LS by the actions of one person . If people have been members of the shell, and dislike it, thats one thing . Meeting one person, or hearing tales of one person, and deciding we are all asshats, is quite another .
#28 Jan 29 2009 at 11:01 PM Rating: Default
If there was but one member, one example, I'd see your point; however, there have been numerous instances of BG members being thieving liars. This very forum gives examples of Almantia, Alacard, Tyril, Barik, etc...being total asses to poeple in game.
#29 Jan 29 2009 at 11:43 PM Rating: Excellent
/thread

Edited, Jan 30th 2009 6:08pm by Aqaia
#30 Jan 30 2009 at 1:24 PM Rating: Default
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this thread is now labeled epic

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#31 Jan 30 2009 at 4:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Alright PangArt, or should that be Bummage? You've cast a lot of accusations around and tried to drag this LS and me down into the mud. How about you reveal your ingame name? I'm Almantia, of British Geezers LS, who the **** are you?
#32 Jan 31 2009 at 2:21 AM Rating: Good
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I like how this thread went from "hey, can I get a pearl to <insert linkshelll here>" and derailed to "hagun drama r us"

Anyways, I figured I would put my input into this whole situation to dissolve any miscommunications. The original Hagun owner is a member of my chat linkshell and a very nice and helpful person. A couple weeks before September 2008, he announced that he would be taking a break from FFXI due to the fact that he would be going away for college and wanted to be able to focus and do well there.

Because of this, he said, many times in linkshell chat that, "Barik, Hushigoshi and Gauntlet can all use my Hagun while I'm at school, but I want it back when I come home for winter break". While he is gone to college, not once did Gauntlet or I ever, ever get to use the Hagun; Barik had it the entire time. Of course, funny thing, during this 4 month period, I never see Barik use the Hagun; If he was using SAM, he was subbing /dnc and using Soboro in Campaign. Whether barik used a mule to sell the hagun or what, I cannot say.

But what I can say is the original owner did, in fact return to FFXI during winter break. He constantly sent tells to Barik, asking for his Hagun back. Barik would pretend to be AFK even though he was constantly jumping through different campaign zones. After 2 weeks of ignoring his tells, barik finally responds, saying that "2 different people play Barik's account and I have no idea what Hagun you're talking about". A Couple days later, barik sends another tell saying that "he sent the hagun back, check your deliver box"

It's funny how he was able to send a Hagun he knew nothing about. But, wait! The Hagun was never sent, the original owner repeatedly checked his deliver box for a week and the Hagun never came. It's not like Barik misspelled the person's name. It's only 3 letters; you'd have to be legally retarded to mistype it.

Fed up, the owner sends another tell to Barik, simply stating that if Barik was not going to return the Hagun, then simply give him the monetary value (3 million gil) to the original owner. Barik pulls the "AFK, but zoning a billion times" card. The owner is back in college and there's where we are today.

Take it as you will, I have nothing against BritishGeezers LS, but this whole controversy proves my opinion that I've had on Barik since 2004, when he was cybering with a RL friend of mine, who he thought was a girl. That's another story for another day my friends!
#33 Jan 31 2009 at 5:27 AM Rating: Good
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vassarAK wrote:
he was cybering with a RL friend of mine, who he thought was a girl.


You know, that doesn't say much about Barik, but it certainly doesn't say much about your anonymous friend.
#34 Jan 31 2009 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
vassarAK wrote:

Take it as you will, I have nothing against BritishGeezers LS, but this whole controversy proves my opinion that I've had on Barik since 2004, when he was cybering with a RL friend of mine, who he thought was a girl. That's another story for another day my friends!


Thats not fair, you can't make a perfectly reasonable post and then tease us with snippets of sexual scandal at the end ! Inquiring minds want to know!
#35 Jan 31 2009 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
"I am sliding my ***** into your.." "hey wait... I thought you were a girl" "oh.. umm.. teehee teehee, I mean, sliding YOUR ***** >.>"
#36 Jan 31 2009 at 7:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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To be fair, he did always tell BG he shared his account wih some spanish guy, Now if this is true or not idk.
#37 Feb 01 2009 at 12:19 AM Rating: Default
Almantia wrote:

Alright PangArt, or should that be Bummage? You've cast a lot of accusations around and tried to drag this LS and me down into the mud. How about you reveal your ingame name? I'm Almantia, of British Geezers LS, who the @#%^ are you?


Oh look, the Almantia speaks! So now that I have your attention, do you still feel remorseful for stealing that aquarius? You did at one point, or has that changed?

I'm not getting that "Bummage" reference. Is it supposed to mean something? You're the 2nd person to mention that person, but I don't play as Bummage in game, never have.

The BG linkshell is far from the possibility of redemption. Perhaps you should make like a chocobogordo and run away. Well, not even that worked for them, lol.
#38 Feb 01 2009 at 12:23 AM Rating: Default
RampagingAnts wrote:


To be fair, he did always tell BG he shared his account wih some spanish guy, Now if this is true or not idk.


"To be fair" lol

Sorry, but no. Are you Barik? The "I share an account with another" was but a lame attempt at trying to keep an item that didn't belong to them. You're transparent.
#39 Feb 01 2009 at 2:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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So, who is PangArt?
#40 Feb 01 2009 at 3:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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PangArt wrote:
RampagingAnts wrote:


To be fair, he did always tell BG he shared his account wih some spanish guy, Now if this is true or not idk.


"To be fair" lol

Sorry, but no. Are you Barik? The "I share an account with another" was but a lame attempt at trying to keep an item that didn't belong to them. You're transparent.


Urban Dictionary wrote:
To Be Fair

form of starting an explanation.
another term generally used around the music btec regions of stratford.
'To be fair your mom is quite fit, she'd get it



common phrase thrown around from where I live, which, unfortuantly for your detective skills, doesnt make me Barik, nor would I wanna.
#41 Feb 01 2009 at 5:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Almantia wrote:
So, who is PangArt?


Someone without enough faith in his statements to reveal his name , and who thinks one or two people doing one or two stupid things mean everyone in the linkshell is just as bad .

Jeez, if everyone took that attitude, I'd have to say that everyone who plays FFXI was a cheating ******* who took advantage of the duping, just because a few did! In fact, I'm so ashamed of everyone who plays this game, I'm quitting and going to HK online!

As I've said, I wasn't in the LS at the time of the Barik thing, so I don't know anything either way on that . I also don't recall ever seeing any mob stealing in my time in the LS. What I do know is since being in the LS,I've found members helpful, friendly , and knowledgable about the game .

Apart from Alma - he called me a scary man beast and chickened out of coming for a beer :P
#43 Feb 04 2009 at 10:56 AM Rating: Default
fungusface wrote:

So.. only a few days later, I sold the hagun in a bazaar overnight. Then I here about all this sh*t going on, well, from BG's point of view, you can all go @#%^ yourselves if you think im repaying anything for the Hagun, I split the money between BG members and we all laughed when we saw this post. So, from BG ... go @#%^ yourselves.

BRITISH GEEZERS FTW

BRITIANS NO.1 ANTI AMERICAN LS!


I appreciate your honesty Joe, at least the matter can rest now.

Edited, Feb 4th 2009 2:06pm by PangArt
#44 Feb 04 2009 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
Almantia wrote:


So, who is PangArt?


Why can't you answer the question I asked? I'll post it for you again...don't ignore it! :)

PangArt wrote:

Oh look, the Almantia speaks! So now that I have your attention, do you still feel remorseful for stealing that aquarius? You did at one point, or has that changed?
#45 Feb 04 2009 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
fungusface wrote:
Hello! This is Barik posting here, I just thought I would come clear up this mess as I don't want my fellow Brits getting a bad name because of some silly misunderstanding. So let me begin.... When returning on winter break, i offered to send the Hagun back, 3,4,5 or more times, each time you said to me, dont worry Bazza!! Its cool Bazza!!! And then before you took a break again I recieved a PoL msg from you saying the following "Hey B, just to let you know i'm off again... Will be back in a few months, can keep the Hagun as a Christmas present"

So.. only a few days later, I sold the hagun in a bazaar overnight. Then I here about all this sh*t going on, well, from BG's point of view, you can all go @#%^ yourselves if you think im repaying anything for the Hagun, I split the money between BG members and we all laughed when we saw this post. So, from BG ... go @#%^ yourselves.

BRITISH GEEZERS FTW

BRITIANS NO.1 ANTI AMERICAN LS!


Hate to say it, but since Barik isn't actually a Brit, I call shenanigans .
#46 Feb 04 2009 at 2:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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fungusface wrote:
Hello! This is Barik posting here, I just thought I would come clear up this mess as I don't want my fellow Brits getting a bad name because of some silly misunderstanding. So let me begin.... When returning on winter break, i offered to send the Hagun back, 3,4,5 or more times, each time you said to me, dont worry Bazza!! Its cool Bazza!!! And then before you took a break again I recieved a PoL msg from you saying the following "Hey B, just to let you know i'm off again... Will be back in a few months, can keep the Hagun as a Christmas present"

So.. only a few days later, I sold the hagun in a bazaar overnight. Then I here about all this sh*t going on, well, from BG's point of view, you can all go @#%^ yourselves if you think im repaying anything for the Hagun, I split the money between BG members and we all laughed when we saw this post. So, from BG ... go @#%^ yourselves.

BRITISH GEEZERS FTW

BRITIANS NO.1 ANTI AMERICAN LS!


What's this? A new challenger appears!

(Inc Wall.Of.Text. separated blissfully into paragraphs)

Sparknotes Version : I never got my Hagun back for a whole month, damnit.










Hello, "Barik". This is the person who lent Barik the Hagun. Now, I just thought I'd post here because I thought I can helpfully clear this crap up (or just make it worse, woo!) as I don't want my friends getting all the fun. That, and drama llamas are amusing.

Like my friend said, before I left for college in August of 08, I had decided to let 2 of my LS mates and a supposed friend borrow my Hagun, since I was a nice guy and all, and really, why would I need a Hagun at college? I had gotten confirmation that I'd get it back when I returned for a break.

-Insert fun times at college here-

I came back for winter break (full 1 month, yah!) on Dec. 19 or so and after reactivating my account, I promptly sent Barik a tell inquiring how he was doing and to send me my Hagun back. Know what I got back? Silence.

Silence for a good few days - a week. Everytime I sent a tell, Barik was either afk, absent, or just ignoring me. I knew he was there too, I sent the tells when I saw him changing zones or when I logged on and off. So he must've been ignoring me right? Wonder why. After awhile, "Barik" finally sent back a tell, stating that "Barik" wasn't actually "Barik." Someone else was playing. I just told him to contact him as soon as possible (and since this guy apparently has Barik's number since he's a "RL friend"... it should be quick and painless, right?) so that I can get my Hagun back.

Friend takes forever. Actually, friend never really does try to contact Barik for a couple of weeks, even though he would "see him at christmas."

********* I kept on messaging and texting to see if the guy had gotten into contact with Barik. Nope.

About three weeks after I sent the initial tell to Barik when I got back from college, I finally got a reply, saying that Barik had just been busy and that he would send the Hagun as soon as possible. Much joy and merriment was had by me. I would finally get back my Hagun!


Wait, I never actually got my Hagun back?


That's right, I never got it back. Even though Barik said in a POL message that he had sent it to me one day before logging off, I never received a Hagun in my d.box. Unless an imaginary, fantasized Hagun counts. So, quite perplexed, I kept on messaging Barik. Barik replied he sent it and that he'd investigate with his friend to see if his friend took it back out... but Barik never came back after logging off one night.

So, for the last two weeks of my vacation, I sent at least a message a day to Barik, (I really want my Hagun) saying "Please send it back when you log on"



You really can't miss 40 messages in your mailbox.

But apparently, Barik did. I still don't have my Hagun.

Keep it as a Christmas present, my ***. (I know that probably isn't the real Barik.)

/endhagun drama llama.

Edited, Feb 4th 2009 5:17pm by XiuLunato

Edited, Feb 4th 2009 5:17pm by XiuLunato
#47 Feb 04 2009 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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XiuLunato wrote:
-Insert fun times at college here-

#48 Feb 04 2009 at 2:48 PM Rating: Default
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fungusface wrote:
Hello! This is Barik posting here, I just thought I would come clear up this mess as I don't want my fellow Brits getting a bad name because of some silly misunderstanding. So let me begin.... When returning on winter break, i offered to send the Hagun back, 3,4,5 or more times, each time you said to me, dont worry Bazza!! Its cool Bazza!!! And then before you took a break again I recieved a PoL msg from you saying the following "Hey B, just to let you know i'm off again... Will be back in a few months, can keep the Hagun as a Christmas present"

So.. only a few days later, I sold the hagun in a bazaar overnight. Then I here about all this sh*t going on, well, from BG's point of view, you can all go @#%^ yourselves if you think im repaying anything for the Hagun, I split the money between BG members and we all laughed when we saw this post. So, from BG ... go @#%^ yourselves.

BRITISH GEEZERS FTW

BRITIANS NO.1 ANTI AMERICAN LS!


wheater this is the real Barik or not, thats shady.

Edited, Feb 4th 2009 5:51pm by Grandier
#49 Feb 04 2009 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Grandier wrote:
fungusface wrote:
Hello! This is Barik posting here, I just thought I would come clear up this mess as I don't want my fellow Brits getting a bad name because of some silly misunderstanding. So let me begin.... When returning on winter break, i offered to send the Hagun back, 3,4,5 or more times, each time you said to me, dont worry Bazza!! Its cool Bazza!!! And then before you took a break again I recieved a PoL msg from you saying the following "Hey B, just to let you know i'm off again... Will be back in a few months, can keep the Hagun as a Christmas present"

So.. only a few days later, I sold the hagun in a bazaar overnight. Then I here about all this sh*t going on, well, from BG's point of view, you can all go @#%^ yourselves if you think im repaying anything for the Hagun, I split the money between BG members and we all laughed when we saw this post. So, from BG ... go @#%^ yourselves.

BRITISH GEEZERS FTW

BRITIANS NO.1 ANTI AMERICAN LS!


wheater this is the real Barik or not, thats shady.


Its definately not . While I didn't know Barik at the time this hagun stuff was going on , I know him a little - enough to know he's not bloody British, and that that non-britishness is precisely why he stands out in the LS . I know where he's from, he's proud as **** of that (and why not!), so I highly doubt that poster is him .

#50 Feb 05 2009 at 1:54 AM Rating: Default
Barik is who Barik is...a proud member of the BG linkshell and quality representative of the British community.

And also the proud owner of a shiny Hagun.

Grats Barik, you win.

#51 Feb 05 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm just not on Alla enough, I miss all these classic threads!

The only thing that surprises me about someone posting on a thread with a racist slur against my mixed British/African background ("mulatto" sounds like an ice cream to me - yum yum) is that the anonymous half-wit redneck took enough time from inbreeding with his repulsive, web-toed siblings to take the white sheet off his head, jump in his pick-up, sling the burning cross in the back and get down to the nearest internet cafe to give everyone in my linkshell a damn good laugh not once but several times! Cheers for that mate. Trust me, I've had much worse insults from much better people than you and I laughed them off just as hard.

As I've said so many times on here before, I couldn't care less about what cretins like MangFart or whatever his name is think of our linkshell. We're a chat LS who have taken down all of the Sky Gods without losing on many an occasion, trounced Limbus, Dynamis, Salvage and had a bloody good time doing it. Are we arrogant? I bloody well am. We've earned the right to be. My LS members seem happy enough with their Homam et al, so that'll do for me.

Barik is a big lad, he can take care of himself in the face of all accusations, fabricated or not. As for your problems with race, whatever that big black guy did to you in the prison showers, a feeble little waste of blood and organs like you no doubt asked for it.
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