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#27XellithsucksGALKACOCK, Posted: Jul 27 2005 at 3:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ALLAH OWNS YOU!!!!
#28 Jul 27 2005 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL wow! /clap
#29 Jul 27 2005 at 3:55 PM Rating: Default
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I guess i see your point it just doesnt make sense to me. You mainly want to meet like minded people based on thoughts and ideals that arent a part of the world of FF to join your LS but you'll accept any yadda yadda yadda good person...

All in all i still dont see the point in calling it a Christian LS unless you only want God fearing Christians in there...Like the Mithra only and this only and that only doesnt accept anyone but those races or whatever set specifications.

I dunno...anyways, i still say good luck on starting it! I tried and failed my own. Just remember people may be interested in it...but the chances of them leaving their other LS's to spend the majority of their time in yours...it'll be hard to get solid, constant members.
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#30 Jul 27 2005 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
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will do thanks!
#31 Jul 28 2005 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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nice that forums come with edit feature isn't it Suse

so you can put a whole new spin and breathe a whole new life into this image you paint for yourself on Siren
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and yet again still not happy with that image tweek it some more paint a new "better" picture of your take on things
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Edited, Wed Jul 27 16:23:29 2005 by Susejnithaif


wonder what you changed that edit, don't care to know really, no need to read the new improved version you keep scrambling to project

first thread and the one after it was enough but you go right ahead and keep working that posting karma baby
sorry you have to take the time away from replying to every single thread this morning and come back here where it all started on June 14 two weeks ago
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it is okay Suse, go out there and make new 'friends' in Siren with your edited-self

I only reply here to remind people that you just don't know anyone you meet in the virtual world and you have no clue what they just edited out of themselves

better yet still Suse for yourself and us all life comes with an edit button

just ask the believer that tuff ***** kitty wants to bash skull in and he will tell you that life has an edit button called

"redemption and jesus saves"

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guy who deserves to have his head kicked in holding his huge picket sign dead smack in the middle of Freemont Street screaming about redemption and jesus saves




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#32 Jul 28 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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its so nice to have my own fan on here yay! I haven't quite figured out what your interest in my reputation good or bad on here but to each his own i guess! but i will answer to one thing on your post. I edited my Jokes post because I was wrong period. It didnt need to be on here, meant as a joke or not it was rude and inconsiderate to others. Not to mention it doesnt make me out to be a good witness to start a christian linkshell if I am starting forums such as that one. With that said I do have a question for you. Your issues whatever they are that you OBVIOUSLY have i would like to know if they are with me personally or with the idea of a christian linkshell I still havent figured out where you are coming from? in all honesty i really dont care i would just like to keep this forum about the subject that is BUILDING A CHRISTIAN LINKSHELL FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT. If you have no interest in one than great! dont be a part of it but if thats the case why bother flooding this forum along with forums that i have posted in just for the sake of flaming?? yeah yeah i understand we all have freedom of speech yadayada but its pointless but i will ask you respectfully to express your future flaming of me in pm's because honestly nobody really cares thank you :)
#33 Jul 28 2005 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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No offense Mawashi, but you are coming across as a bit of a prick. Feel free to rate me down for saying it, but holding a grudge on a guy for one bad post? C'mon. Yes I read the blond post before it was deleted, and yes it was in bad taste, but it was ONE POST. Every other post of his has been well thought out and put together. You're posts on the other hand have all been vindictive of him, and its just not very fair.

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just ask the believer that tuff ***** kitty wants to bash skull in and he will tell you that life has an edit button called

"redemption and jesus saves"


its a she actually. And I have no idea what you are even trying to insinuate.

EDIT: Spelling ><

Edited, Thu Jul 28 15:00:38 2005 by BartelX

Edited, Thu Jul 28 14:58:02 2005 by BartelX
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#34 Jul 28 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Default
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I don't think my pointing out a person I feel is a hustler makes me a prick.

No matter how well thought out he makes his posts now on the matter, the point is in the beginning it seemed a ploy to gather friends by in one thread wanting to start a christian linkshell and then 5 seconds later trying to project a different image in another posts trashing women as he was testing the waters of the public forums to see which fish he could reel in with what hustled image he portrayed.

He can go ahead and play at being the greatest christian in Siren. I am not buying it.

I have a problem with Edited Posts and people trying to laugh off their posts as saying it was sarcasm or all in jest when they make rude or offensive remarks or trying to make legitimate posts when three minutes earlier they make outlandishly offensive remarks with so much intolerance it saddens me.

I return to clarify that my intent for posting was that I feel the OP is hustling Siren.
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my own fan

not hardly dear, already told you my view of you

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My personal rate on you is a big phat ZERO

My interest in this thread came solely from the title and the fact I thought it was a good idea but didn't feel it would survive in FFXI so I came to jot down the name of the person that thought it up to befriend in game and try to help him/her advance until I saw the same name on a disgusting thread and it appeared to me you were being a "hustler" trying to get attention either way you could straddling the fence on what image you wanted to project in the FFXI community.

And now two weeks into it with the aid of the marvelous edit feature you step off on the "good" side and frankly I still believe you will edit your views anyway you can for attention going from 10 to 99 posts in 14 days to try to make a better image than the hustler I called your hand on.

How about you go out and help others in game or life and do good deeds. Stop being a poser here on the forum. If you conducted yourself as a christian in game you would find yourself surrounded by players of similiar beliefs. And you would most likely bond together on missions and tasks and naturally a linkshell would form to hold friendships together and there you have it, a christian linkshell made out of actions.

Birds of a feather flock together.

Time will tell as you associate with others in game and react to events as to whether you are a hustler or not. Not what I posted about your flip flop in morales or what you edited away. But who you chose to befriend in game and how you conduct yourself there.

I close in saying this game is full of hustlers.
People will take advantage of the good, the kind, the helpful, the christians.
Each day some scam is brought to light in Siren. A christian linkshell is just a big target for hustlers to worm their way into and loot, use, and abuse kind souls.

I don't trust Suse but that's just my opinion of the unedited version of DJ.

And as for the tuff ***** kitty remarks Bartelx doesn't understand, read up on her post above where her view on christians witnessing show her hateful side again towards tolerance for others. So I couldn't resist when I was viewing new posts for the day to see if I could be of aid and she ponders if she jinxed herself...looks purrrrrty jinxful to me.
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I agree with religion has no place in video games but people are going to do it anyway and it really doesnt effect me as long as they're not standing on the steps of Bastok AH spamming psalms and prayers and what not like some guy who deserves to have his head kicked in holding his huge picket sign dead smack in the middle of Freemont Street screaming about redemption and jesus saves.
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#35 Jul 28 2005 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
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#36 Jul 28 2005 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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So no one is allowed to make a mistake? Some of the jokes in that thread were quite funny, and were not aimed against women. I'm guessing he just copied and pasted the entire thing from somewhere else and thought it would be funny in the forum. Why he thought that, I really don't know. It was, at best, an inappropiate thing, but I don't think it was meant maliciously or to purposely put down women or anyone. As he already stated, was it the christian thing to do? No. But he apologized, and agrees that it was wrong to post it, so in my eyes, no harm no foul.

On the other hand, if he had said ********** you, I'll post what I want" I could understand your disgust with him. But I really think you are judging someone far too quickly. I admit, I myself do it to. ****, I said you were acting like a prick, which is a judgement in itself, and i apologize. But just because I called you that, it doesn't mean I'm going to hate on you and go to all your threads and try and turn people against you, which is what you are trying to do to him. I urge you to consider what you are doing, and think it through before you go around calling someone a hustler that you don't even really know. Just my advice, you can choose to listen or not, but its out there for you.

As for Jenny, her personal views are her own. Quite frankly, I hate the type of people who try and convert you to their religion and preach about going to **** without repentance, because it is my life and if I choose not to believe in one of the 50 billion religions, thats my choice. Once again, Jenny did make a rather bold and borderline hurtful comment, but that is Jenny. You can choose to ignore it, or you can start a whole new flame war on it (theres already been several). One thing I've learned in this forum is, don't judge people too harshly for what they say. You don't know what they are thinking or why they think the way they do. Until you do, it is unfair to pass judgement on others.
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#37 Jul 28 2005 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh man, must there always be Idiots who flat out dont wanna understand something... they'll just throw out some ****-a-mamie non-sense like mrs sparx here...jeeze man, how many times does he have to say his reasons for starting one? dude forget all these morons here who are just bumping gums just because they dont wanna get it... its like...well u know what nvm there has alwayys been people like that...and you know what...sadly there always will be. /sigh yes even louts like me who suck at english and friggin spelling
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#38 Jul 28 2005 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Maw,

Climb off your high horse there killer. People are allowed to make mistakes. You bad mouth her because of a post of jokes in poor taste. I wouldnt expect anything less from you cause you take everything so literally.

Just because she said some naughty jokes and doesnt act proper all the time doesnt make her not a christian. I dont see anything wrong with anything she has done so far. It sounds more like you're insulted that a not good enough Christian in your eyes wants to form this kind of LS.

And wow, i'm truely sorry i didnt say "I would politely ask the loud and obnoxious wannabe preacher to stop spamming my ears with his noise." To me, that doest show to what extent i am against sidewalk preeching.

Freedom of religion is all well and good. Freedom of speech and expression, even better. But those people are so annoying. I dont even hate them until they try to get in my face, or talk to me like i should care about what they have to say. I better join them in their crusade because me and my non-believer buddies will go to **** if we dont! *gasp*

I'd stand next to him with a picket sign against whatever he/she is preeching but i think being a walking talking commercial for your religion is a waiste of time.

I had a group of Jehova's Witnesses knock on my door once a week for 4 months. No matter how many times i asked them to please stop disturbing my home, i'm not interesting in what you're preeching...They still came back.

But anyways, the point being Form whatever kinda LS you want, just dont be those annoying preachy people. And the other point is, that i'm pretty sure i made once before....Reading Comprehension....learn it. Life isnt black and white like you seem to think it is.
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#39 Jul 28 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I think he just stated that about 3 different times miss
sparx...

but...well I suppose you're right...but not a person in the post said anything about tryin to convert anybody...and yet u keep going on about we should not do this that and the other....

and as far as reading comprehension( hope I spelled it right)

i'll work on it ^^.

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#40 Jul 28 2005 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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/em sings "Why cant we be friends"

/em dodges the tomatoes ^^; >.<
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#41 Jul 28 2005 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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oh Gawd.... ya know what >.<...i'mma shut up...umm..

rate me down...plz...just rate me down.... >< i'm idiot ><

miss sparx...uhh sorry bout the post. ><.

/em is embarrased as ****. >.<
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#42 Jul 29 2005 at 4:56 PM Rating: Good
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I am not sure if i should laugh or cry at this point lol. Actually for the record I am done even posting in this forum unless there are questions DIRECTLY related to the SUBJECT. There are going to be 500 posts on this forum by the end of next month and 3 will be about a christian linkshell 400 will be about my bad sense of judgement on a different post and the rest will be about Jennys posts lol gotta love the internet :P also for the record I am pretty sure I am not a female LOL. Anyways have a wonderful day all and I will be looking forward to reading 2 out of the next 1000 posts on this forum lol cya! :D
#43 Jul 30 2005 at 2:49 AM Rating: Good
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just ask the believer that tuff ***** kitty wants to bash skull in and he will tell you that life has an edit button called

"redemption and jesus saves"



its a she actually. And I have no idea what you are even trying to insinuate.


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:P also for the record I am pretty sure I am not a female LOL


Mawashi was referring to Jenny here, not you, hence why I said Jenny's a she.
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#44 Jul 30 2005 at 4:37 AM Rating: Good
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lol... after reading this...

Guys, this is sad... you are bringing prejudice hatred and suppression into a VIDEO GAME GATHERING... chill out... dude all i have to tell u is if u wanna be unique more power to you... and MAWASHI it was you who once told me "Don't sweat the small stuff"... so why are u? its not worth it... Live life to its fullest you only get 1... and its retarded to down someone on there ideas and there originality... If he wants to make a christain LS let him... i mean ****... and you already put in ur 2 cents now let it slide... Maw u are better than that..
well im done it just bothers me how some of you let this game get to you so much...
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#45 Jul 30 2005 at 10:56 AM Rating: Default
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For the record, having a mere 30 posts in a year and a half here and only 3 pertaining to either suse or jenny do not make me trolling after either of them with a vindictive nature.

I merely pointed out what at the time struck me as hypocrisy with suse and the timing of his two threads and racism and intolerance with jenny on another thread but the two views got linked together here when jenny made another blurp of insensitivity and intolerance about kicking in the head of a christian witnessing.

Sorry you think that is retarded thinking there Art to speak out against someone that holds intolerance for others, but to me it wasn't a small thing for it to appear on a thread that brought up christianity. And that is the only reason I posted here.

Editing a thread to make your views seems more acceptable was the reason for the followup posts.
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#46 Jul 30 2005 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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For the record, having a mere 30 posts in a year and a half here and only 3 pertaining to either suse or jenny do not make me trolling after either of them with a vindictive nature.


Doesn't really matter. Going into someone else's positive thread and trashing them for something they said on another thread is considered trolling. It might not have bee intentional, and you might have had good reason for doing it, but the point is still that you willingly tried to hijack someone's thread and make them look bad from something they said in a different thread. You've done that twice. Once in this thread to Suse, and once in Jenny's thread.

Now, I'm not going to judge you and say that you are a troll and start bombing your karma, because I really don't know you. But so far the image you've given me is someone who holds grudges and can't allow people to make mistakes, as well as someone with some aspects of trolling. Is this the image you want portrayed? If not, I urge you to stop this. It will make me think much more of you to be the bigger person and let it go. I hope you are able to.
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#47 Jul 30 2005 at 3:29 PM Rating: Default
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You are right on one thing Bartelx it doesn't matter. Your view on what and where and how I can voice a thought here doesn't matter at all.

Doesn't matter one bit as to whether a christian linkshell would survive on Siren.

I was done with the whole matter until jen blurted out in this thread about how that christian witness should have his head kicked in. To me, in my opinion, that shows a violent intolerant nature much like her statement about wishing that japanese player's grandfather had been at Hiroshima. A pattern of hate on her part and I was hoping to point it out to her so she could work on it.

I would like to see more tolerance in the world. And I have every right to speak up when I see or hear things that promote hate. Sure people speak out of turn sometimes out of frustration and things get said they wished they could take back. But those remarks were way over the line.

That is just my opinion, if you don't want to hear, don't read it. And by all means stop mentioning me here and hijacking the thread yourself for your vendetta against me because I embarassed your friend jen by making a point of her hateful remarks. You claim to have returned to forum posting after a 3 month absence and you make that return to defend jen with 4 posts on the "HNMs and whatnot" thread where her racist image was brought to light. And once again it is but my opinion that you yourself seem to hold a grudge against me for doing that by coming in here and telling me how to post.

If you don't want my opinion, then don't read it. Please stop giving me your opinion on where I can give mine.

I popped by alla today because I am leveling goldsmithing and I am referencing the guild info. And as long as someone keeps referencing me in a post on this thread I have a right to respond if I so chose.

Much like I am not concerned with your opinion on where I can post, I am sure you are not interested in my view of you as a "troll" and "stalker" wandering in behind me to do damage control for your gal pal jen by trying to discredit my point of view in saying I posted it in the wrong spot.

Your calling me a troll or thread hijacker is what you are doing yourself by jumping in behind me once again on a thread to attempt to tell me the proper way to voice my opinion and where to voice it and your opinion on where I did chose to post and I really don't care but I do care about the intolerance.

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I know that what I don't come here for is to be told how to think and that my opinions are wrong.


They are just opinions. I am not concerned with whether they are right or wrong as you seem to be. I am more concerned with the matter I voiced my opinion on as to whether that is right or wrong. Kicking the head in on a christian witness because you don't want to hear his opinion is one step away from kicking mine in I suppose because you don't want to hear my opinion either.

Hate, I can do without it. Can you?
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#48 Jul 30 2005 at 9:34 PM Rating: Good
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wow dude, you need to chill out. I have no vendetta against you, I merely said that its not cool to go into a thread that has a positive meaning and bring in quotes from another thread. Whether or not you agree, that is considered trolling. Go to the admin forum, there's a bunch of threads about the exact same situation, people not letting one thing go.

Lol, and me and Jenny are buddies? Though I don't hate on her like everyone else, I in no way agree with her on a lot of things nor do I think a lot of what she says is right. I merely defend her from the people who scream at her for an opinion, instead of asking her nicely to stop because she is being offensive. Ask her yourself, we aren't friends. I talk to her occasionally, and I think she's a good person at heart. I think most of the people here simply misunderstand her, and therefore jump on her case.

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Much like I am not concerned with your opinion on where I can post, I am sure you are not interested in my view of you as a "troll" and "stalker" wandering in behind me to do damage control for your gal pal jen by trying to discredit my point of view in saying I posted it in the wrong spot.


Let's see, I've never rated you down, never followed you anywhere, and never done anything to you besides give you some advice which you've thrown in my face. How am I a troll or a stalker?

I've never told you what to do, simply said that people might label you a certain way based on your actions. Honestly, I've only been trying to help you out here, hoping that maybe you could let things go and move on. Clearly you cannot, and will hold a grudge against jenny and suse for all of eternity. That's ok, I'm still not going to hold it against you, because I respect the fact that you are at least strong in your convictions, even if I disagree with them.

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and I really don't care but I do care about the intolerance.


You speak of intolerance, but I wonder if you understand what it means?

DEFINITION: impatience with annoyances; "his intolerance of interruptions" 2: unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs

I am completely able to tolerate your opinions, because I respect them even if I disagree with them. Can you honestly say you do the same of Jenny, Suse, and myself? I'm not trying to start a feud here, I'm just trying to help you see a different side of things. If you choose to disagree, that's fine, and I promise I won't post in this thread again. BTW, if you would like to respond in a PM, feel free, as I feel we've kinda destroyed the meaning of this thread ><

EDIT: Spelling ><

Edited, Sat Jul 30 22:34:54 2005 by BartelX
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#49 Jul 31 2005 at 3:09 AM Rating: Default
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A Christian ls lol. Funny idea. I think religon needs to be keep of the game. I rather be worring about how I am gonna make gil in stead of how I am good Christian.
#50 Aug 01 2005 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
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Like i said in the other thread to further my point of Mawashi not being able to read between the lines....

I could say my dog has been acting like a terror for a week straight and i want to kill her. And he would think i would actually kill my dog.

This is why you shed light on nothing Maw. And this is why you get so angry that someone doesnt hang on my every word like you. Me and Bartel dont talk much at all, nor do we come on to Alla in cahoots to tag-team anyone who challenges me.

The fact that you imply that we run around every thread together backing eachother up basically makes you look even more ridiculous, just scheming up ways to put yourself above 2 more posters on a message board. Especially with him being gone for months and i continued "terrorizing" the board.

I'm surprised you didnt ask where my other big tuff male guardian Wargod is. I have to hide behind them for fear of persecution from you and those like-minded to you. (lol)

You're just another person who cant read a post or cant understand its meaning unless they use simple words and dont use any of those fancy tactics like sarcasm and what not.

I dont even want to trash your name. And i dont care if you continue to trash mine. But the simple fact is...Since your cowardly post about me on another board, i havent gone to that board since to bother any of you. Yet here you are...Firing shots at people for nothing...just coming here to cry wolf.

Some people on this thread got all up in arms about how a bunch of people are against the idea of a christian ls. maybe 2 or 3 were and didnt offer up any kind of intelligent information as to why...I'm not even one of those people.

I didnt appose the idea i simply said i didnt understand why it was to be labeled what Suse was labeling it.Suse even calmly and informatively responded to me with an answer. But Captain Christian (that would be you) comes flying in and accusing people of stuff. I'm sorry Suse isnt good enough Christian for you and you feel you have to cut her to **** for it. But shes no less a christian then you.

You want to preach to me and others reading about the evil Jennysparks (and Suse for that matter) spreading her hatred and intolerance and wonk wonk wonk. What are you doing here? Gods good will exposing your targets to a bunch of people who read these boards...Many of who dont even post and could care less about what you, i , or anyone has to say. They probably just come here to be amused.

I have never logged onto FF and gotten tells or anything going OMG, its Jenny! i hate her, shes evil! Even Barber...one of the posters here that i would think hated me the most didnt even leave a PT he got invited to that i was in. Truth be told, i dont think people very much care enough to carry the crap from these boards over into the game.

The only thing i think that makes you more pathetic then anyone else on this board is that you're flying around acting better then people. You're attempting to destroy someone for some tasteless blonde jokes.

See me, i understand why people go after me. Because i am so outspoken and tactless with my words. But you're going to the throat of a christian that would dare crack blonde jokes...blonde jokes...actual jokes. jokes heard many times and are hardly the opinion of the joke teller(except maybe the joke creator). they're spoken to be funny.

You may not be the type of crowd those jokes were intented to make laugh but you're acting like Al Quida casting Jihads on people. Blonde jokes...Educate yourself, and i dont mean sit on your *** and read more books. Y'know, street smarts...the ability to read people and the situation...and other such talents you dont posess.
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#51 Aug 01 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
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{Hmmm.} Imposing your views on others, kill kill kill for monetary gain, and to posses things that make others jealous.
Recruitment of people to become mindless followers. Introduction to a group of people who you will be brainwashed into becoming another numbered clone.

{Ummm.} We still talking about FFXI and a Christian LS or have we moved on the the American Government. These things sound awfully familiar to the way our government and military conduct business.

And the last time I checked before the U.S. run's off and police's the world by force or otherwise we always say something that has to do with guess who - God.

So to those who say God has no place in a video game with the fore mentioned actions, I say to you how can we perform these actions in our everyday "REAL" life and do it all as "One nation under God."

My point being if these actions are not only accepted but condoned by so many citizens of our great country every day how can we say that they do not belong in a psuedo-reality that has far fewer consequences than the actions we take in real life.

::Clarification:: I am in no way bashing the U.S. I love this country and would not leave if you tried to make me. But to say that it is hypocritical to play a game with the above listed past-times and continue to believe in God, then to turn around and do the same in a foreign country and do it all in the name of what is right and the name of God, what are we being?

I am also a christian but a very laid back one to say the least. I do not attend church regularly but I have been baptized, yes I curse, I drink beer, enjoy botanical recreation, have tattoos, and have pre-marital *** with my g/f.

I am tired of seeing people ridicule others without taking a look at yourself deep and hard before you let any words pass over your lips.

You bash this guy for having an idea for a christian LS but also telling dirty jokes. I pose this question to you sepecifically MAWASHI, what in the wide wide world of sports makes you think you are enough of a model human being to point at others and tell them how strong their beliefs are? And what makes you think that if I enjoy a dirty joke once in awhile that my christianity is at stake.

The people who realize you can be a christian and still have human shortcomings are the ones who are closest to correct in my eyes.

And in my opinion people who think that christians believe themsleves to be closer to perfection than all other people and preach to the masses so that they finally realize their transgressions and run to the church to be saved, are the furthest from right.

Anyone who has paid even a remote bit of attention in church can tell you the reason God gave his only Son was to cleanse us of our sins until the rapture. Any sin can be forgiven if asked no matter how hanus, if a person is truly remorseful it will be forgiven. This is the purest form of unconditional love.

If the people who sin are doomed to **** no matter what why would a Father give his only Son to cleanse and forgive them?

::Personal Opinion:: Mawashi got his/her panties in a wad over some blonde jokes and ran off and made a Holy War. Life sucks dig in and buy a helmet.

"Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

::Edited spelling corrections::

Edited, Mon Aug 1 13:14:02 2005 by ReignDrkKnight
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