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#52 Aug 01 2005 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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#53 Aug 01 2005 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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::Personal Opinion:: Mawashi got his/her panties in a wad over some blonde jokes and ran off and made a Holy War. Life sucks dig in and buy a helmet.

"Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."


Is that suppose to be a threat?

More hate, pity.

I said if anyone mentions my character's name I have a right to reply if I so chose. And I just wanted to let you know Reign that I am not bothered by the comment nor offended nor feel threatened in anyway because unlike you my life doesn't suck.


It says in your quote that life sucks. Perhaps you can work on fixing that and have a better day tomorrow.
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#54 Aug 01 2005 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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hmm i sensed alot of sarcasm in some posts must be just me. lol

the point of the thread is Suse wants to start a "Christian" LS.
I say go for it. He wants to be with ppl that share they same types of foundations in thier beliefs. So what. I met Suse when he first started playing in a pt on Qufim. Had fun helped him fix some of his macros lol. Then another time i was pting in the 2nd jungle Yhoathor and some one trained some gobs and i died. I was the whm of my PT and Suse was the WHm of another PT.
needless to say his pt leader said no dont raise him for what ever reason ( maybe figured less competition for mobs, what a jerk). regardless Suse raised me. so i have nothing negative to say about Suse. Just let him form a LS with ppl that he has stuff in common with.

and how do you know reign's life suxz? ppl can go as far to say yours must suck if ur still here ranting on ppl and what they posted >.>

either way go for it Suse.
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#55 Aug 01 2005 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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I understand fully where Mawashi is coming from in her rebuttle against the OP.

Reading the "Blonde Hume" thread, which the OP posted with the intention to see if he could get "rated down" (ie - he was intentionally trying to offend a group of people), I couldn't help but cringe and shake my head. A few days later, the same person posted the intention to create a Christian focused linkshell.

Please, please remember, the OP edited his original post and completely deleted his previous posts to create a message that was much, much nicer than what he had originally intended.

I write this post as a non-Christian, however, I am an ordained member of another religious order and frankly, I found the OP's joke post to be really, really offensive. My religion, Asatru, and Christianity both strictly observe showing respect and decency for another human being. Those represented from either faith, I believe, would not demean another person in such a way as shown by the OP - joke or not.

For those of you who didn't get a chance to read the joke thread, it wasn't so much a string of insults that capitalized on the 'blonde joke genre' but some very serious dives degrading females in a sexual nature. If this person was a member of my faith and I later saw him profess to be a member of my faith I too would like to discuss his reasoning for doing what he did.

As I see it Mawashi has in no way put down the idea of the formation of a Christian Linkshell, but has shown a hesitation to endorse a linkshell being created by a person who has said such demeaning things about other human beings.

I'm really impressed with the way Susejnithaif has edited his post to create a completely different character of his personality that was not scene before the additions and deletions. Please forgive me, I was not raised in a Christian enviroment, but in the tradition I was raised in things like I've seen from the OP were not tolerated even in a joking manner.
#56 Aug 01 2005 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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No Mawashi it was not a threat I don't threaten people in fact I am a very non violent person. As far as saying my life sucks somewhere in a quote I don't know what you mean and even if it was said it is just in jest I am sure.

I understand now after reading again what you meant. And that does not mean my life sucks it means that life can be harsh sometimes so prepare for it. I guess that just supports the fact that you take everything you read literally.

And as far as my life goes I couldn't be more happy and don't need a better day tomorrow because I have great ones everyday. Don't trouble yourself too much over my happiness I have plenty. But thank you for wondering. :)


Edited, Mon Aug 1 23:31:39 2005 by ReignDrkKnight
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#57 Aug 02 2005 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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I'll take "Thread titles that are -asking- for a flamewar" for $500, Alex.
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#58 Aug 02 2005 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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Now I know I said I wasnt going to respond in this forum again unless it actually applied but I can't bite my tongue anymore..first off Jenny I am still male not a female I know "suse" sounds female but spell it out..susejnihtaif...backwards is fiath in Jesus..yes i realize faith is spelled wrong of course it wasnt until after I had already leveled too much to delete my character lol
2nd as far as "changing" my posts that is an out right farce. I never changed anything that I have written on this forum the "edit" at on the first post was an addition only if anybody says otherwise they are sadly mistaken..
3rd on the blonde joke board sigh.... Yes I deleted it completely and to say I did it to "change my character" etc etc is also a farce I stated very clearly why I deleted it, not to say that I didnt write the post. I stated that I realized what I wrote was wrong it was distasteful and disrespectful and I shouldnt have done this. Period. With that said there shouldnt be any other speculation on my motives and I will say one last time A CHRISTIAN LINKSHELL IS NOT ABOUT ME ITS ABOUT OTHERS THAT WANT TO COME TOGETHER IN CHRIST AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO OF THERE OWN FREEWILL NON CHRISTIANS THAT WANT TO BE PART OF A POSITIVE ATMOSPHERE. I actually feel really sad for those that may have looked at the title of this forum and had a genuine interest until they read 50 posts of hate and decided against it. I truly hope that someone else will start a new forum, I wont post a single message in it to leave certain individuals for turning it into another ridiculous drama, and actually try to see if this is something people would be interested in. Take Care all and God Bless.

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#59 Aug 02 2005 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry about that Suse, it is a feminine sounding name. Woops.
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#60 Aug 03 2005 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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Wow..

Aside from the entire "Blonde Jokes" thread, which I read before it was deleted, who are any of you on this forum to say whether or not the OP is a good enough Christian to start a linkshell in a virtual game? It's a novel idea, and apparently people expressed interest in it. Whether the creator of the LS is the "best" Christian doesn't matter.. it's a place for all Christians in the LS to hang out. They're not making the OP their new God or anything..

As for the people spouting crap about keeping religion out of FFXI.. or that the OP is being prejudice against other religions.. Do you guys actually read what you're typing? This game is full of diversity, and it's also full or LSs pertaining to certain people. There are Mithra LSs, Taru LSs, White Mage LSs, Crafting LSs, German LSs, Japanese LSs, NA LSs, EU LSs, Swedish LSs, Spanish LSs... A linkshell is not a **** Army ready to persecute all those opposed. It's simply a way to chat with people of similar interests. If they want to chat about God and church and Christian holidays and events, then let them. IT'S NOT HARMING YOU OR ANYONE ELSE IN THE SLIGHTEST LITTLE BIT. Now if they were shouting their beliefs in Jeuno, that would be a different story. But having a Christian LS is no different than having a Crafting LS or a Taru LS. Anyone saying otherwise is being outright prejudice against the OP and anyone interested in joining the Christian LS.

The first LS I was ever in got a new member. He seemed like a nice guy. But he mentioned one thing about God, got flamed for it, and when he defended himself (not preaching, just defending from the flames), he got booted from the LS. Was it fair to him? Not at all. Maybe he'll read this post and join a LS where little comments like he made won't result in him being degraded, booted, and made to feel like an outsider.

Side note: I spent the first 13 years of my life attending both Catholic church and the United Church of Christ, twice a week. (Weird, I know. I blame my mother and paternal grandmother. -.-) For the past 10 years, I've attended none, nor do I worship anything at all. I've sat on both sides of the fence. Being Christian does not mean you are perfect. Flaming someone because they want to start a Christian LS is being ignorant and prejudice. I'm fairly sure at any given moment there will NOT be someone spouting Bible verses or singing hymns. Does an all-Crafting LS talk about ONLY Crafting? No, they chat about "normal" stuff just like the rest of us. On the flip side, I wouldn't want to join the Christian LS. :X

But you know what.. If I don't want to join, I won't. I won't flame the OP or his idea just because it's not something I'd be interested in. Some people would do better just to ignore posts that don't pertain to them.
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#61 Aug 17 2005 at 11:42 AM Rating: Default
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Good morning and God Bless all! I know some of you have tried contacting me in game and I am sorry I didn't post earlier but I am no longer on Siren. I was really serious about being a part of a christian linkshell and unfortunately it just wasn't happening here. So I sacrified my Susejnihtaif (cries) and went to Ragnarok where there has been a long standing christian LS if any of you would like to come over the LS website is [link=null]http://divineinterventionffxi.net [/link] The website will explain exactly what its purpose is so I hope to see you come over soon if you need a world pass just let me know and I will see what I can do. Have a wonderful day all I will miss siren greatly.

God Bless

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#62 Aug 18 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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While we are on the subject of religion, what about a Buddhist LS, or a Hindu LS, or an atheist LS? Actually there can be sprituality which comes out of this game..respect for others, helping those in need, balancing nature, and of course the elemental forces of life itself. If a group of people start a LS because of some commonality, whether it's religion, or music, or even bowling... there should be no problem in that. Go for it. But please be open to other people's view's and chill...this is still a game!
#63 Aug 18 2005 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
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Susejnithaif wrote:
...I was really serious about being a part of a christian linkshell and unfortunately it just wasn't happening here...


Maybe it just wasn't meant to be....

...But then again, no one ever said starting a LS was going to be easy. Even Non-Christian LS's are nearly impossible to start.

Edited, Thu Aug 18 21:18:37 2005 by ShaidenKP
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#64 Aug 19 2005 at 5:25 AM Rating: Good
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Nice to know Siren is full of happy people who are thoughtful of other people's beliefs and opinions. {/sarcasm}

Anyway, im not a very spiritual person so it isn't the sort of thing that I would personally be interested in. That said I am appalled by some of the posts here simply because of the attitudes of the poster's. If you are not interested, don't post. Simple as that. If you are interested, post a message and maybe you'll find yourself with an extra linkpearl / pearlsack in your inventory. No point in this futile arguing over nothing.
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#65 Aug 20 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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#66 Aug 24 2005 at 2:21 AM Rating: Default
Hey its darrick i would love to join your LS
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#67 Aug 24 2005 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default
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hiya Darrick how are ya! I actually moved to Ragnarok server where they have had a succesful christian LS for a long time now called Divine Intervention. So alas Susejnihtaif is no longer :( but i love it on Ragnarok I love the LS everybody is so respectful and outgoing people actually help out the other LS members with quests/missions/gear etc. If you are feeling bold and want to make a switch let me know and i will get you a world pass that goes for anybody else thats interested as well Take Care and God Bless you all!

btw this is the link...
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=53&mid=1124301402627687976&num=19

Edited, Wed Aug 24 11:54:54 2005 by Susejnithaif
#68 Aug 25 2005 at 1:37 AM Rating: Default
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First off rate me down to Zero if you feel like you need it!

Sec. I am Roman-Catholic, therefore I was taught the most
fanatic Christian rituals,viewpoints etc.

Third I am and have always been a Gamer , i enjoy a killtacular
as much as anyone...

How does it work???

LEAVE religion OUT of video GAMES!!!

Religion is not something to be played with...
(see umm...Crusades,Jihad,Mass murder all in the name of one
God or another)

Susejnthaif , I actually laughed at your jokes but if you want
Friends that share your religious views...
GO TO CHURCH! etc.

Yes a Linkshell is meant for talking to your Friends w/o using say, BUT what will you talk about??? It either has relevance to the game and not Christianity or it could be done in a Chatroom
on some website...

just my 2cents

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#69 Oct 10 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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I think its a great idea. I would be willing to join, but i am already part of a ls ive been with forever. But its a GREAT idea. I would like to see one a chiristian ls running around Jeuno ^_^
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#70 Oct 11 2005 at 5:11 AM Rating: Default
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A Christian LS that both Christians and non-Christians can join...or...any other LS in the game that both Christians and non-Christians can join.

What's the difference?
#71 Oct 11 2005 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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What's the difference?


I think it's obvious to me...but since you asked. There's tons of "specific" LSes out there. I've seen ones for Mithra, Paladins, Sky, German, French, Dynamis, "social", and then there's all the less non-specific ones. The answer to your question is, they're more likely to talk about God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost and various scriptures and theologies relating to them, whereas the the Mithra orientated LS probably wouldn't cover those topics (mine never did).
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#72 Oct 11 2005 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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1: the intention of a Christian LS is not to preach any religious views on any other person christian or otherwise.

2: the intention of a Christian LS is not to Spam any religious views in any way size shape or form on any other person christian or otherwise.

3: the intention of a Christian LS is not a way to add to the bigotry through race *** or religion or any other size shape or form.

4: a christian LS doesnt have prerequisites to join other than being respectful of the beliefs of the other members of the LS.
This being said christians and non christians alike are more than welcome to join in fact it is encouraged.
Ok... what the **** is the point then?
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This being said words of intolerance words of hate towards Christians wont be tolerated.
Funny... Christians have been doing this to other beliefs for almost 2000 years now. People would become judged by others because of what religious linkshell they belong to. It's a really ****** idea. And I'm even saying this coming from a Christian family XD

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HI DARRICK! I remember you well! You're the reason I left Strikeforce! /wave lol

Ok. I don't actually care if someone makes a Christian LS. I just needed something to vent on because all of the pressure my parents and my peers from Indiana gave me for the past five years for being athiest.

Edited, Wed Oct 12 17:04:54 2005 by Caiphus
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#73 Oct 11 2005 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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judged by others because of what religious linkshell


I've seen this happen to non-religious linkshells not only once but twice ...so whats your point?

I think it all depends on the type of person you're dealing with, not their religious affiliation...
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#74 Oct 12 2005 at 10:40 AM Rating: Default
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Funny... Christians have been doing this to other beliefs for almost 2000 years now.


Through my extensive experiences with Christians, not one has ever researched or understood the history of their own religion.

Not an attack - purely an observation.



Edited, Wed Oct 12 11:54:32 2005 by Jow
#75 Oct 18 2005 at 12:19 AM Rating: Default
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I'll take "Thread titles that are -asking- for a flamewar" for $500, Alex.


Honestly, this thread was originally posted in July.
Can it just die yet, please?
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