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#77 Jan 06 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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To label an entire LS off the actions of 2-3 people is totaly ignorant no matter what course of action those 2-3 people took. "example" Today a man was brutally slain by 2 black men with close ties to a gang refered to as "The Bloods". By reading that does this mean that all black men are mac10 toating gang banging murderers? Sorry but no, and to label honest members of my linkshell including myself with a title such as Hackroses makes you no better than the local racist screaming out @#%^ everytime he sees a black man.

To be honest, this comment really suprised me coming from Sachmo. I have never been too close to you but we have exchanged a few words in conversation and i do consider you a very intelligent person. I believe that you assume everyone here is stupid and i find your example to be a little condescendent due to it's lack consistency and being so broad.
Everyone freaks out when you mention "race", "oh my god I'm not racist! i love black/white/hispanic/asian/etc people! my best friend is (insert race here)!", maybe thats why you mentioned it, i guess to try to put it on terms everyone could understand... whatever your reason may be, lets think about it for a second.

- 2 Black men commited a murder.
* Does this make all black people murders? No, one chooses to commit murder regardless of color, being born black is not a choice nor its a pre-requisite to commit murder.
- an Elvaan named Crazypluto Hacks
* Does this makes all Elvaans hackers? No, "Elvaans" are a very big group that engage in different activities, they cannot be targeted as cheaters based on race.
CONCLUSION: Race Card, discarded.

- 2 (any race) men commit murder, they are members of "the bloods"
* Does this make "The bloods" murderers? Even if not all of members of this organization are murderes, they are aware of gang activities and know for fact that fund-raising while selling girl-scout cookies is not one of them. Even if they haven't commited murder, they are guilty by association and condone this activity. These people have CHOSEN to join this group.
- a (insert FFXI race here) hacks, he is THE LEADER of the Black Roses.
* Does this make all of BR members hackers? Even if not all members of this organization are hackers, they are aware of their "gang/group/linkshell/team" activities and know for a fact that using 100% honest methods are not one of them. Even if they haven't hacked, they are guilthy by association and condone this activity. These people have CHOSEN to join this group and STAY in it after knowing that their ways aren't honest and violate the rules of the game. Even if these members ignored the videos, photos and possible conversations bragging about certain hacks (Shinyz demeanor on his picture and the description of the photo itself), they couldn't have possible be ignorant of the events that have ocurred in the last week or so.
To put it in words that have becomed familiar to all of us lately: "Not all germans are genocydal racist maniacs, but those that followed Hitler willingly are"

BR HAD a lot of good people, they possibly left the LS already.

I know about loyalty and i think it is admirable, but you guys need to open your eyes and realize that CP failed, YOU!
I was part of BR and i dont remember ever seeing anything saying "we accept hacking", im pretty sure there is a code of conduct and a set of rules and its based on fairness. Your leader violated that and if there is anyone in this whole server who CP screwed by hacking and being dishonest is the BR MEMBERS.
Lets say he used a hack that directly affected me Sidrac and took an NM i was camping and i lost an item. Booohooo! its an item after all, yes im ******* yes im angry... but in the end its an item. In the other hand he betrayed you guys trust, he betrayed your Linkshell's honor and he betrayed the friendship that you guys so boldly come here to defend.

You guys dont need to explain absolutely anything to us, you need to explain YOURSELF, "why do I defend this guy?"
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#78 Jan 06 2006 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Alecia you cant really give Dae **** over anything. You were the one who through a tantrum and left an LS because they didn't allow you to be an officer. You then posted in a public area about ex-members while you still had access to the private area, but you decied to try leave some damage to the LS. Then the next day you were saw in Jeuno with <3Crazypluto<3 in your bazaar comment after how long you had split up with your old b/f(an ex-LoA officer)?

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#79 Jan 06 2006 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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for ppl who know me, they now i am a vry fair and honest person.


Yes I find that most honest and fair people jump to the aid and defense of liars and cheats. It's especialy true of "vry fair and honest" people who are more concerned with their self-centered sense of belief than stark reality.

BTW, Schmo, *******, or whatever your name is. Nice analogy between BR and a murderous gang. Freudian Slip much?

Edited, Fri Jan 6 10:43:03 2006 by UCLARugby
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#80 Jan 06 2006 at 2:39 PM Rating: Default
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lol lavo, yeah, me power hungry =P no! i did more for loa then the 9 out of the 10 officers, and everyone knows that. i was a officer of loa before u ever came to it, but steped down cause of squeak. why i left is ls got greedy example: for one ls would not give silent and vukan there checks, which is bs as they were both officers and have been in the ls since i was 1 year ago and did hella for the ls, so who is the greedy one? things like is y i left.

lol and how many times did i help u and your gf raven??? pfft i am allways helping others not my self and i know ya know this is the truth.

as for dae hes need to practice what he preaches =P lol y ya standing up for him? i am just sayin it bs to post about the reasen he left is cause some ppl in br used hacks when he does also =P

Oh and about posting in pubic chat well if i didnt i would not see replys to post as they cut access dur =P lol meh well i am have glad to left loa, wasnt were i wanted to be anymore. then well theres me and cp well thats our business, and so what if i had bf in loa hes the one who backed off then i met cp? so stfu
#81 Jan 06 2006 at 2:52 PM Rating: Default
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Haha someone got told on being a gold digger lol. Someone should start a thread on all the gold digging 'girls' in the game.
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#82 Jan 06 2006 at 2:57 PM Rating: Default
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UCLAR btw.

i stick up for my friends as i know that they have good in them and i know cp is truly sry. i have learned to forgive because life is to short to stress and be haten over things like this. i am not self centered. i just think that theres are better things to do then to bash ppl. CP has done alot for the ls and for other ppl, and because of the hack problem no one sees any of the good anymore. so i simply wanted to post some good things about him.

I like to get along with everyone and hate when ppl talk so much ****. I mean ya even have other ldrs of LS's puting ppl down what kind of example does that set for there members? means its ok to talk **** and hurt ppl feelings and start gossip?

I have gotton involed in this thead cause i felt cp and br had enough ppl attacking them, I think he and BR rocks and thats how i feel. but since i say nice things about cp and br i am now a called a self centered and a *****. but thing is ya dont know me, i am a very nice person that cares for there friends, i dont see how that makes me self centered.
#83 Jan 06 2006 at 3:05 PM Rating: Default
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lol oh and btw for the record i am not a gold digger=P me and gydeon kicked it for 6 months and not one time did i ask one thing of him, and since we stoped hanging out and i started hangin out w/cp means i am one? stupid if ya ask me.

Oh and lavo(one who called me one)u know i make my own gill, so wtf lavo? grr and u know i was allways there for u and help u out so many times, well meh i dont care to be your friend if ya put me down =P /blist you can have it.
#84 Jan 06 2006 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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***** THIS im going UP STAIRS and going to listen to my WILL smith CD.
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#85 Jan 06 2006 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, sorry he lost his character. Boo-hoo. He had it coming and I'm glad he got banned.
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#86 Jan 06 2006 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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missAlecia,

It's self-serving because you are a member of the shell. What I can't seem to find here, and maybe I am missing it, is people outside your shell coming to defend it. To me that is far more telling than say someone who is within the shell itself and also hacking coming here to defend it. Using another of your members analogies, it would be like a member of the Bloods coming to the defense of one of its murderers. Doesn't carry a whole lot of weight.

Finally, if CP (and Carver and Shinyz and any other of your hacking brethern) really cared about the people in the shell they would have left, gone into exile, instead of breaking yet another rule and buying an existing account to join right back up with you Den of Thieves. The fact that you all let him right back into the shell with a bought account speaks volumes to the fact that either you all are doing it, condone it, or are spineless. Take your pick. If you haven't figured it out, I am casting the same light on all of BR now. The fact that he is right back in shows what everyone of your members who stays is about. If you don't think what he did is right, then either clean your house or leave. But don't ask anyone in Sylph to show any sort of respect for you or your shell if you don't.

Edited, Fri Jan 6 15:43:28 2006 by UCLARugby
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#87 Jan 06 2006 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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/em step's over all the dead bodys..

I have a question or two...
Wasnt BlackRoses the once infamous RoseRitten (sp?).
If so how does any honest player belong to that linkshell. It has had the worst reputation since i started playing ffxi. I heard they changed names over and over trying to hide the rep. If it is a reincarnation of that ls why would anyone whos "good" or "nice" be a part of it?
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#88 Jan 06 2006 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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OhOH CP is truly sorry! ;o c'mon let's all give a /cheer on him.
/sarcasm off.
#89 Jan 06 2006 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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I've shared my own opinions with others so no need for me to add them here but I'm still searching for alot of answers. I know that despite alot of mistakes, people place friendships above all other things whether rational or not...that I can understand as we're all human beings here. Not to mention, TeamSpeak (as you guys encourage) has made you feel closer to one another. You guys regard yourself as a close-knit family and will stick together for the most part. That in itself I admire. However, I have these honest questions for BR if I may:


1. Aside from CP's post, I have not seen any other BR member apologize for either hacking themselves or condoning this practice when they know full well that it's been going on within the LS (photos, vids, website, attending events, etc.). Where is the humility or remorse that would've shown much more character than another tedious or "patriotic" rant? I hear "We're gonna be the greatest NA LS on Sylph, who cares what anyone thinks?" Any other fanboy of any LS could've said that. But with the subject at hand, where's the "We're sorry. Even though I didn't hack myself, I still allowed this to happen within my LS" apology? Is there any acknowledgement from BR that this type of behavior is wrong? It seems there was more remorse in the loss of CP's account than the actual wrong-doing.

2. If you guys truly are as close as you say you are, then you know that you can be 100% honest and confident in approaching any other member, whether it be an officer or CP himself, with any sort of problems you might have. If you have any integrity or morals, you probably guessed that hacking would be considered wrong no matter who else does it. Even if CP himself is using one, did any of you have the confidence to approach him and say, "You know, I feel that this is wrong and would hurt our LS's reputation. We should stop this now." Did anyone ever try this or approach another officer? If so, what was the result of that? I'm dying to know this one, personally. If you care about your family, you also care that they're doing the right thing.

3. Gippo said that hackers should be punished. CP was punished by having his account terminated. Why then did a GM punish him rather than BR themselves? Not because he's the leader...that couldn't be it, can it? If he comes back (whether it be Kennif or a new character), what actions do you take to punish him as well as Shinyz, Carver, or whoever? Or is it suffice to say "If they were caught, that's punishment enough."? Judging by the "oops" pic of Shinyz, his only mistake was being caught. Correct me if I'm wrong.

4. Why post those pics of yourselves cheating on your own site? Surely it cannot be so to blackmail each other since you're a family. The only other reasons I can think of are:
1) show "accomplishments"
2) humor
I don't know about you, but both of these reasons suggests that those actions (speed hacking, etc.) are NOT wrong. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

5. Who else cheated? - A longshot, but you never know...


Again, not trying to stir any trouble. I and many others still question these things in our minds. The apology and acknowledgement of condoning these actions would've made long strides in defending BR's reputation imo...just that it may already be too late. An honest answer from an honest member(s) is appreciated.
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#90 Jan 06 2006 at 7:56 PM Rating: Good
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It's pretty easy to answer all those questions with: They don't care.

Hack, steal claim, call for help if you're about to whipe or buy accounts... BR does it all.. and has been doing it for quite a while aparently. Hey... if it gives you the pimp gear who cares right? "I don't have to feel proud, I have an osode n00b."

Again I wanna stress this is not pointed at everyone in BR but the majority is a bunch of gutless spineless stupid morons.

And seriously... to have your online g/f come defend you in horrible english is not a sign of remorse.
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#91 Jan 06 2006 at 9:14 PM Rating: Default
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meh... ty for puting my grammer down, oh ya got me good on that one =P. also no one asked me to stick up for BR or CP that was my choice =P
#92 Jan 07 2006 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
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unfortunately, i believe that bit about your grammar was the least important thing he said in that post. Also the other part about it being your own decision or whatever doesnt change things either. The fact that you had to post at all was what he meant. And yeah, this discussion is pretty much over, br is here to stay, and just have to learn to deal with it, like you try to do with rmt.
#93 Jan 07 2006 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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Alecia,

Let's get some facts straight. You left the LS once when we did not make you an officer which you stated in a post on our forums. Please don;t pretend otherwise. After it was rumored that Gydeon would leave the LS if you weren't made an officer, a poll was put up in the officer section on whether or not you should be made an officer and suddenly you were back on shell. Coincidence, I hardly think so. Also, I find it more than funny how you were so concerned about Silent's and Vukan's paycheck when I don;t remember hearing a word from you about the paychecks of other people that had left the LS.

As far as doing more for the LS than 9 of the 10 officers, please get real. How many events did you plan, organize and lead? I don't recall any because I don't think you have the ability. 9 times out of 10 you could not make it through Sky without getting magic aggro. Simply showing up to events doesn't mean you did more for the LS.

As far as your attacks on Dae and Lavo, you are going down the wrong path when you will attack them. These attacks are especially pityful when you defend someone that has repeatedly lied about hacking, gets caught and attempts the ultimate mea culpa while failing to disclose that he happened to BUY an account. Traits I look for in my friends include honour, integrity, and honesty. I can personally say that both Dae and Lavo possess these qualities. Can you say that about your friends? I hardly think so.
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#94 Jan 07 2006 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
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I'm seeing alota BR members replyin to this BS. Sure CP started the thread in hopes to end some of the Flaming, and explain to tho's who have massive hardon's for CP the situation he was going though. I suggest we let the same 13 people continue flaming BR and stay outa the way. It's pretty clear at this point nothing said by BR will do anything but add to the fire.

P.S Daemonxel u were in the LS for what 2 days? No1 gives a flyin F½ck why you left. I'm alittle confused why u even took the time to post?
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Daemonxel u were in the LS for what 2 days? No1 gives a flyin F½ck why you left. I'm alittle confused why u even took the time to post?


it was little over a week..at least chk your facts. The only reason I posted was I was kinda ****** off about how certain members kept posting **** about how everyone is saying crap cause they are just Jealous.

Do I care what you think of me? no. I cared what my long time friends think of me and how I kept getting /tells about how could I be in that LS? Why did I join that LS? And you can ask CP yourself I defended my point f'n time, supported you guys. And when I brought up the point about reputation you all said it doesn't matter what others think only about what the LS thinks (which is a honorable setiment) but it did not do it for me. **** I was even told that if I care about my reputation from outside LS members so much then I should leave. You want to flame me for posting my honest opinion? go right ahead...the only opinion that concerns me is that of the friends I made during the time I have been here on the server.

My total opinion: BR does have very good players, and it is a shame that you take soo much **** from the actions of a few. Do I think CP has reformed, my honest opinion...Yes. the Loss of 2 very high char I think would reform anyone. If you really want to stop this **** then stop posting and ignore the populace..like what yall told me while in LS..no ones opinions matter about you cept your own.

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To express my opinion...like all of you are doing.
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#98 Jan 07 2006 at 10:28 PM Rating: Default
Alkahazam Posters,

I am sorry to hijack this thread from it primary intended purpose, CP's appology and admission of guilt and claim of reform. I normally do not get involved on Allakhazam posts, and this is the first time I felt the need to interject. I say this to let you know this is NOT a fake account. I am a player on Sylph named Gydeon. I am a former officer of LoA and LoAII (reformed after Squeak's temp. departure from the game).

I also would like to appologize to you for taking something that is personal in nature and bearing it to the public. This post is a reply to the following 2 people (Lavo & Areck).

Why do I make this information public? Well, since this post was hijacked already and became a venue for these members to bash Alecia's character, I feel as her friend I must defend her and let you know that Alecia is an amazing and wonderful player, one who would take time out to help a complete stranger (I know this because there have been times when she's dragged me along with her lol), asking nothing in return other than a simple {Thank you}. She is one of the few people I know in this game and also in real life that has the strength and courage to forgive people their mistakes and give them another chance. And I believe that this was the reason for her post, to let CP and fellow ffxi players know that she (along with other BR members) are willing to give CP another chance. She never defended the use of a hack or a third party program. Simply that she accepted CP's appology (the original post).

So to allakhazam, I appologize for the hijack and thank you for your understanding and patience (though 'Understanding' and 'Patience' are two very rare NM's on allakhazam lol ^^).


Lavo,

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You were the one who through a tantrum and left an LS because they didn't allow you to be an officer. You then posted in a public area about ex-members while you still had access to the private area, but you decied to try leave some damage to the LS. Then the next day you were saw in Jeuno with <3Crazypluto<3 in your bazaar comment after how long you had split up with your old b/f (an ex-LoA officer)?
Power-hungry Gold-Digging ***** {You can have this}



Maybe you didn't know this Lavo, but before you were even in LoAII, Alecia was a great and extremely productive and helpful OFFICER of LoA (the first). She originally resigned her officership in LoAI because of personal conflicts with Squeak (the details of which only she and Squeak know). When Squeak left FFXI, I spoke to her and asked her to return to LoAII because we could use a her skills and talent as a very good RDM. After 3 months of working extremely hard to help the LS ... attending almost EVERY event - (for which she was never the beneficiary) she accumulated the MOST points out of ANYONE else in the Linkshell ... even more than all the officers. That was during the first month we instituted the point system, the ONLY other person that came even close to her point total was me (short by couple of points). There were talks amongst officers (myself, vukan, silentmagi, djzombie, and daemonxel) already at that point to re-instate her officership - something of which she had no prior knowledge. We discussed this because 3 officers during this time period were absent from the game, we thought they had quit ffxi and wanted to fill the open spots and reward members who had shown initiative, leadership, skill (qualities which she demonstrated extremely well). So when you say she threw a tantrum because nobody made her an officer - you are wrong. As Kamuinoir can confirm after he spoke with her, she had no knowledge that she was being considered for a re-instatment of her officership. She took a break from LoAII because when certain officers returned from their hiatus, they took control of every event - bossing people around like subordinates and showing now respect for the member's playtime and RL life situations. This lack of respect for normal members and lack of recognition became a growing trend when events were lead by these officers (I will not name them all in a public forum at this time - though one will be named shortly). This is why she took her 1 week break from LoAII, keep in mind, she didn't join another LS ... she just un-equipped her pearl. She came back after Kam spoke with her and after I spoke with her asking her to return and give LoAII another chance. I am still sore over this topic because my fellow officers of LoA failed to see what an amazing asset Alecia is (as a skilled player and an amazing person) to any linkshell that is lucky enough to have her as their member.

Next you mention that she posted her 'farewell loa' post in the public section of the forums instead of the private sections. You know as well as I, that the moment a member announces that (s)he is leaving LoA, their access to the forum is immediately reduced to only the public area. So if she was to post in the private (member's only) section, how would she see the replies to her post?

You continue to say that the next day you see her in Jeuno with a bazaar comment of <3Crazypluto<3. This is where I have to tell you that it is absolutely none of your business what happened between Alecia and myself and consequently between Alecia and Crazypluto. The events that happened are extremely personal and I wish to keep them as such. I can only tell you that Alecia is still a dear friend of mine, perhaps more dear to me now than ever and she already knows this. So to hear you calling her a 'Power-hungry Gold-Digging *****', hurts me and has put an end to whatever little friendship you and I shared. She means more to me than any of you will ever understand and once again, I am astounded at the blind ignorance of LoA officers and how they fail to realize their loss when Alecia left the linkshell. Perhaps this blind ignorance and inability to recognize the individual members is the reason why LoAII has become just a chat LS and not the Endgame LS we aspired to be when it began.

She never 'demanded' an officership nor did she throw a 'tantrum', she just wanted recognition for her efforts and a chance to make the linkshell better and to help LoA realize its full potential (which will never happen now, as LoA has become a Chat LS). She was never a Gold-Digger, and I am insulted at your accusations on her character. She never asked me for gil, and I never gave her anything more than a flower or a 2K gemstone from the AH. All she ever asked of me was a /kiss and a /smile ... something which was gladly returned to me twofold.

Speaking of throwing 'tantrums' ... between Alecia and You, it was you that threw a tantrum - asking all Linkshell Thieves to boycott Sky farming sessions, simply because an event started late and that during the first couple of god fights that LoA did, the thieves only joined the main alliance new the last 5% of the fight. So please, don't get me started about throwing 'tantrums.'

So in conclusion I say to you Lavo, whatever little respect and friendship I had for you ... is no more. You have come on here on this extremely public forum and insulted the one person dearest to me in the game, this I cannot forgive nor forget. So to you I say, {Goodbye!}




Areck,

You said in your post and I quote:

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Let's get some facts straight. You left the LS once when we did not make you an officer which you stated in a post on our forums. Please don;t pretend otherwise. After it was rumored that Gydeon would leave the LS if you weren't made an officer, a poll was put up in the officer section on whether or not you should be made an officer and suddenly you were back on shell. Coincidence, I hardly think so. Also, I find it more than funny how you were so concerned about Silent's and Vukan's paycheck when I don;t remember hearing a word from you about the paychecks of other people that had left the LS.

As far as doing more for the LS than 9 of the 10 officers, please get real. How many events did you plan, organize and lead? I don't recall any because I don't think you have the ability. 9 times out of 10 you could not make it through Sky without getting magic aggro. Simply showing up to events doesn't mean you did more for the LS.

As far as your attacks on Dae and Lavo, you are going down the wrong path when you will attack them. These attacks are especially pityful when you defend someone that has repeatedly lied about hacking, gets caught and attempts the ultimate mea culpa while failing to disclose that he happened to BUY an account. Traits I look for in my friends include honour, integrity, and honesty. I can personally say that both Dae and Lavo possess these qualities. Can you say that about your friends? I hardly think so.



Alright Areck ... It is with you that I have the greatest issues. Don't presume to know everything that happened and please, if you bring details to the public forum, provide the full story. Alecia didn't take a break from the LS because she wasn't made an officer. I find it very strange that the POLL for her officership was put up AFTER she left? Don't you think that the poll would have been put up BEFORE she left and the vote would have been to deny her officership PRIOR to her leaving, if in fact the reason for her departure was the denial of her officership? I find your story to be flawed. So read my reply to Lavo for her reasons of taking the break. And in case you can't figure it out ... her reason for leaving ... and this is also the reason for many others who left LoA is ... YOU! ... You are the reason why many people ... alot of people left LoA, I can name 4 because I know they are ok with their names being put in a public forum (Gydeon(me), Alecia, Loryne, Vukan). While you were on your 2-3 month break from FFXI, it was Alecia that helped lead the sky sessions, the OP Hat runs, CoP and ZM missions for members who were left behind. When you returned, you refused to let non-officer members take a lead role, how do you expect people to demonstrate leadership if you do not give them a chance.

So you say the poll was put up after rumors were started that I would leave if Alecia wasn't made an officer. Do you know who started there rumors? Your good friend - Daemonxel. Do you know who put up the POLL? Kalahn was kind enough to put up a half-hearted post after Daemon pretty much forced it from her. And something I noticed and mentioned - the POLL was NEVER VOTED ON while I was an officer in LoA. It was put on the 'back-burner' to be discussed at officer meetings over Teamspeak. Did this vote ever take place? No, TWO meetings occurred and it was never brought up, even though it was listed in the agenda.

She returned at least 1-2 weeks BEFORE the poll was posted by Kalahn. She returned when Kamuinoir spoke to her in private. And despite all your allegations that I was 'secretly' telling her about her possible officership, Kam confirmed that when he mentioned it to her, it was the first she heard of it.

As for her being concerned about Silent and Vukan's paychecks and not every other member that left LoA, I feel the same way. Silent and Vukan devoted 2 years to the LS, they were officers who spent almost every minute they were in the game to help LoA grow and advance. Unlike some of the other members who joined for 2 weeks - 1 month and left. And when we did make a poll about giving EVERY member that left LoA their paychecks, that was even voted down by the majority of officers. Do I think Silent and Vukan deserved their paychecks more than other members, YES. Is it because they were officers and the others were just members... NO. It is because the effort put in by member X (who was only there for 2wks - 1mth) compared to the effort put in by Silent and Vukan is negligible. But I find myself repeated what I said over Teamspeak and it will probably fall on deaf ears again.

I find your next comment laughable at best. You question Alecia's ability to lead, asking how many events she planned, organized, and lead. As I have mentioned to you already, during your absence, when she was given a chance - she was the lead for all my sky runs. It was to her that I turned for guidance in Sky as she had done countless God fights and Kirin fights before LoAII made it first sky run. She was the one who guided me and our group during our trigger farming. The OP hat runs we had went extremely well when she was there as co-leader. I know when you returned, we also had an OP Hat run, I found that run pathetic as everyone was spread out across the temple and dying - and wait, wasn't it you and another officer that lead that run? {sarcasm}wow ... you truly are a great leader Areck, Thank you.{/sarcasm}

So you say she is a bad player because she can't get through sky without getting agro 9 out of 10 times? Well, I was there with her every sky run we had, she only died once by Faust because she accidentally ran out the door. Everyone has done that once. As for her skill in getting around without getting agro? She was in my CoP ENM static and every time we went across Uleguerand Range to the "Brothers" Arena, she never got agro (except that one time she accidentally fell down the hole because of RL distractions). So in the politest way possible, I highly recommend seeing a professional proctologist to help you get your highly-inflated-ego-filled-head out of your @$$ … oh and STFU.

"Simply showing up on events doesn't mean you did more for the LS." ... that may be true, but when someone says in LS chat "can someone help me with ________?" and officers like you say, "we'll put that on the calendar for next week", it was members like her that said, "sure, I'll help and so will Gydeon" (lol @ Ali ^^) Countless spontaneous events were done because she took the initiative to get people together to help members. But once again, your blind arrogance prevents you from seeing these contributions.

As for your last comment about the validity of her 'attacks' on Daemon and Lavo, by questioning her judgement of character by supporting CP, let me just say that her comments about Daemon and Lavo are valid nonetheless. Her comments to Lavo where in self defense, and her response to Daemon was truthfull in the face of Daemon's hippocracy. To say that your honor and reputation is of the utmost importance when you 'magically' teleport to the clif and receive your 'Chamnaet Ice' while everyone else is going the long way around 'Uleguerand Range' is hypocritical and best and laughable at worst.

I have one piece of advice for you Areck, the traits you seek in your friends; Honor, Integrity, and Honesty - find them in yourself first because I surely cannot see them in you. I was there for most of the officer canditate votes for LoAI and was been there for all officer votes for LoAII, and I can say that all the officers for whom I voted have proven me right in my judgement of thier character and potentional. The few candidates that became officers without my support (majority always rules) have still proven me right by showing time and time again that they do not deserve to be an officer. For what its worth, I think I'd already made it obviously known to you during my last 3 months in LoA that I never supported your officership and I hope that no other linkshell trusts you with the responsiblity and honor of being an officer.

-Gydeon
#99 Jan 07 2006 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll give 10 gil to the first person who reads ALL of that last post. Ready? GO!
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#100 Jan 07 2006 at 11:15 PM Rating: Good
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Sorry Gydeon, but obviously time has skewed your recollection of events and facts. I will not take up reader's time with pointing out the numerous errors you have made. Have a nice day.
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#101 Jan 08 2006 at 12:37 AM Rating: Default
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WOw XD
..and i read all of that.
Anyways No comment.

P.S. Please make my 10 gil payable to Mr. GoodGuy.
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