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#102 Jan 08 2006 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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My total opinion: BR does have very good players, and it is a shame that you take soo much sh*t from the actions of a few. Do I think CP has reformed, my honest opinion...Yes. the Loss of 2 very high char I think would reform anyone. If you really want to stop this sh*t then stop posting and ignore the populace..like what yall told me while in LS..no ones opinions matter about you cept your own.


The problem is, those good ppl sat back and allowed this to happen. And you cant say you didnt know, hacking has been going on for a while in BR. Plus the stuff if posted in their own site, so that makes the situation even worse for them.

Edit: Claimed page 3!

Edited, Sun Jan 8 02:32:43 2006 by xxHiryoxx
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#103 Jan 08 2006 at 4:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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There seems to be a few eyewitness accounts of your PLDs using speedhacks to try and kite Vrtra earlier this evening, with your 80 man army in tow. Any comment, CP?

It's too bad you can't screenshot speed hacking.
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#104 Jan 08 2006 at 4:45 AM Rating: Good
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Wow I leave for 2-3 months and look how much drama increased on the server.
Man I love shows like these
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#105 Jan 08 2006 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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well I throw my 2 cents in and try as be as non-bias as possible.

Im sorry CP that you feel that this apology somwhow makes you feel better about yourself. Fact is you cheated and not just minor cheat you cheated and you continued to do it. I dont feel that you have gained any kind of remorse. Why do i say that YOU BOUGHT A **** CHAR. Im sorry but I have lost all respect I ever had for you and doubt it will return anytime soon. As for the rest of BR No I will not accuse them of cheating when there is no substantial proof, However that being said I do agree that sadly BRs name has been tarnished with a bad label that will not easily be removed.

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Edited, Sun Jan 8 06:47:48 2006 by kamuinoir
#106 Jan 08 2006 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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this should be on one of those jerry springer type shows.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7745/loljerryspringer3rh.jpg
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#107 Jan 08 2006 at 9:02 AM Rating: Default
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ALL IN ALL what a bunch of HORSE CRAP. ^^ CP ****** UP. CP SAID SORRY. PEOPLE GET MAD. PEOPLE GET OVER IT. SO JUST SHUT THE **** UP. AND NOW ITS TIME FOR ME TO GO LISTEN TO MY WILL SMITH CD.

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#108 Jan 08 2006 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Needs more chair throwing.

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There seems to be a few eyewitness accounts of your PLDs using speedhacks to try and kite Vrtra earlier this evening, with your 80 man army in tow. Any comment, CP?


There are also eyewitness account on alien, big foot, and loch ness monster, yet we all know it's all a bunch of **** anyway.

Really, if there are eyewitness account on speedhacking, yet none of the BR tank get ported to jail for the use of 3rd party program...even though there are eyewitness...and the Vrtra battle lasted a few hours...and a GM could've been called and something could've been done...you see where I'm going with this?

Here are the possibilities:

1) Those eyewitness are full of ****.

2) Those eyewitness watches a violation of game's ToS happen in front of them, yet did nothing about it, which does makes them ******** by your guys standard, since that what all the "decent BR members" does.

3) BR didn't speedhack on Vrtra, and you're a ******* for accusing them with no apparent evidence.

Oh wait, you can't screenshot speedhack you say? Get yourself a ******* Fraps and record them cheating bastards in action...if it wasn't just a ******** claim.

Also there is something called "lag" in an environment where an entire shell decided to take down a massive monster, with a bunch of adds around the area, and a number of spectator waiting for their success/failure.

Also, to whoever start mentioning the ******* **** as analogy, you are a ******* ******. Comparing CP/BR to Hitler/**** is really a great comparison...let's compare hacking in a ******* game to one of the greatest crime in humanity history.

Seriously, Godwin's Law, this thread should have been over then, and whoever mentioned **** is a ******* ******, and should go through their history book...maybe then you'll know the difference between "killing jews" and "pwning j00".

Edited, Sun Jan 8 10:43:45 2006 by ArsDraconis
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#109 Jan 08 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
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Why don't those people who think we speedhack examine our armor? Or call a GM on us? Crimson Cuisses FTW.
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#110 Jan 08 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Crimson Cuisses FTW.


Yes please examine beforehand next time...I went down to watch the fight on Thurs. tanks had Crimson gear, so please do not try spreading false rumors.
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#111 Jan 08 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
My name is Angelofdeath i am a PROUD member of the black roses linkshell. I don't normally respond to these posts ( this happens to be my second post ever) but after what was posted by Ashion i feel i must respond to this thread. To say we speed hacked at vrtra is complete and total BS and ashion i don't recall seeing you there at vrtra to witness any of this. There were plenty of people ( about 20 people) watching us take vrtra down to 9% if we were speedhacking i think one of them would have called a GM on us. who knows maybe they did and if they did the gm would have done nothing because we were not hacking. What i find even funnier is our main tank who was accused of speed hacking plays on a playstation 2 which to my knowledge is not even possible to hack on. Yeah our tanks move a little faster than normal but the only reason for that is because every one of our tanks has crimson legs. oh and ashion we had 35-40 people from our linkshell there not 80. Next time come out there and see it with your own eyes rather than make a false post about our linkshell it makes you look ignorant. If you honestly think we are hacking then go ahead call a gm and tell them to watch us. i would rather you do that then accuse us of something we didn't do in an attempt to tarnish what our linkshell has accomplished. People just can't accept as much as you hate us all we are a very powerful linkshell. Our linkshell doesn't ask people from outside our linkshell for help on wyrms we prefer to do it on our own rather than some linkshells on our server. If people would spend as much time and effort as they do fabricating storys making up lies and putting down our linkshell into trying to get along with us giving us a chance things would be alot better i think. We aint bad people we don't hack or cheat at our linkshell events who knows if you tried maybe you might get along with some of us. Like i said if you think we hack or cheat go ahead and call a gm to watch us while we fight HNMS. i would rather you do that than make up lies about us. (yeah my post if full of grammar errors sorry i try my best)
#112 Jan 08 2006 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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There are also eyewitness account on alien, big foot, and loch ness monster, yet we all know it's all a bunch of sh*t anyway.


With the slight little tiny difference that this alien, big foot, and loch ness monster was proven beyond reasonable doubt, and Big foot actually came on the forum to make somewhat of an apology. ^^

But I'm sure you didn't speedhack on Vrtra, don't worry :)
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#113 Jan 08 2006 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
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I happen to be one of the few pld's in BR. Really not hard to miss me, i the only hume thats not a Galka PLD. So all in all it cant be that hard to miss me in the crowd. If you think i was hacking or any of the others please feel free to make a fool of yourself by calling a GM. What good would speedhacking even accomplish in vrta fight? What would you plan on doing running so fast you end up behind him and spike flail your LS.. lol? Or maybe running so quick you lose target on him and lose hate. Both, last i checked probably arent the best of things to do. Anyways, GJ to BR, we know what needs to be done 100% now to take him out. So in the future look for us with new spiffy titles on.
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#114 Jan 08 2006 at 1:32 PM Rating: Default
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watching us take vrtra down to 9%


Wow, 9%? Congrats. I guess it started to feel bad for you and the other 85 people that were gang raping it. If that isn't Zerg rush, then I don't know what is.

Edited, Sun Jan 8 13:38:43 2006 by buddweiser
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#115 Jan 08 2006 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Except Orli, I was talking about the accusation of speedhacking PLD at Vrtra, of which that your dear LS member ashion seem to put his faith upon...

Obviously now we know that ashion have buncha retards for eyewitness, that can't ******* check for a crimson cuisses.

There were 80 people in the KRT, almost half of them are spectator. If they're really speedhacking and nobody bother to submit a GM call over the few hours of the battle...then I'm willing to say that those spectators are ******.

Ashion, open mouth, insert foot, have a nice day.
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#116 Jan 08 2006 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont think BR hacked at the vrta fight, BUT there were 96 people in the zone last night. and you dont count the people from God ls who were healing you, or else you would have wiped earlier as help from other linkshells?

gg

you tried to zerg it and failed. you got close, and if you take 80 people instead of 75 next time you'll win. go open recruitment


oh and half of those 96 people spectators?

***** please

Edited, Sun Jan 8 13:40:51 2006 by Lavaroach
#117 Jan 08 2006 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, 9%? Congrats. I guess it started to feel bad for you and the other 85 people that were gang raping it. If that isn't Zerg rush, then I don't know what is.

kinda funny we only had 40 people , learn to count budd
#118 Jan 08 2006 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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See what i mean Bud? We do something positive, and all you have to say is ****. That's really all i ever see out of you. To get it straight, we had 40-45 people btw. The standard is one vrtra alliance, one summon alliance, and 1-2 melee parties for the room mobs. That totals to 42-48 people - zerg? The BG posts about him recommend at least 10-12 blm, we had 8.
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#119 Jan 08 2006 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
budd you were not there so how can you even assume or tell anyone how many people we had attend. like i said before we had about 40 people not the 80-85 people you all seem to claim we had. Next time come out and count them yourself instead of posting on behalf of what you didn't even witness making yourself look ingorant as usual.( i might add i was suprised he didn't show since he always seems to follow us around since he obviously has no life or anything better to do) Anyone who says we had more than 40 people needs to #1 Actually witness it #2 learn how to count. Also to lavaroach to say anyone helped us is a load of BS. The only thing people who came out did was get in our way and cause alot of lag problems . Also people were rude when we asked them to show respect and stand back a little.( alot of spectators died serves you right for being that close to us) Next time for those who want to make false allegations get the facts.
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Haha, don't worry guys, it's not like I expect a straight answer from BR on the subject of hacking, nor will I ever. I just felt like seeing a few of you get your panties in a knot. I realize now that I mistook Crimson cuisses as a speedhack, because I forgot that they give people 3x movement rate. I'm so silly lol!

Here's another question: Do any of you BR members know exactly why CP, aka the new owner of Fobschoolgirl and Kennif, wanted to do Vrtra on Saturday?

ArsDraconis, you sure have a lot of faith in GMs. You're quite the holy man, aside from being a compulsive, vulgarity spewing fiend, of course. :) What would your mother say?


Edit: Look below this post for a well placed ice burn.



Edited, Sun Jan 8 15:42:07 2006 by AshionSylph
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#121 Jan 08 2006 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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"ArsDraconis, you sure have a lot of faith in GMs. You're quite the holy man, aside from being a compulsive, vulgarity spewing fiend, of course. :) What would your mother say?"

And what else is Arsdraconis that you aren't? mature
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#122 Jan 08 2006 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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you had 8 blms, next time you'll have 9. >< I was at work. Awesome job guys!!

and dont worry about buddwieser, it doesnt matter what the event happens to be, if its about one of us(BR), he finds any excuse he can to be a jerk.
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#123 Jan 08 2006 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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Do any of you BR members know exactly why CP, aka the new owner of Fobschoolgirl and Kennif, wanted to do Vrtra on Saturday?


lol, because we got our asses handed to us on Wednesday and wanted to try again. 89% on wed. night, 10% last night, im sure we'll do it again. (bastards better let me help this time) >.>
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#124 Jan 08 2006 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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ArsDraconis, you sure have a lot of faith in GMs. You're quite the holy man, aside from being a compulsive, vulgarity spewing fiend, of course. :) What would your mother say?


They caught CP didn't they?

Like I said, there were like 90 people in the zone, half of them aren't even BR. The Vrtra battle lasted few hours. On the chance that BR speedhack it, there are enough processing that can be done to at least summon 1 GM, which is more than enough SE official eyewitness to start sending the speedhackers to Mordion Gaol.

I know SE's GM isn't exactly the best and brightest, nor do they function in a time efficient manner on the most part. But hey...there were few hours window during which Vrtra was fought, and many eyewitness that can easily ask for investigation...

Like I said, either your witness is full of ****, or everyone on KRT decides that they'll let BR off by hacking that entire time and did not file a report.

I'm sorry that my logic escapes you, but obviously this is what I manage to draw by using my brain instead of my ***.
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#125 Jan 08 2006 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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Using /sea all linkshell

These were the linkshell members that took part in the fight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/attending1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/attending2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/attending3.jpg

And these are the all of the people that were in that area.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Einario/everyone7.jpg


92 of everyone there minus the 49 of our members there, point to us who out of those 43 people of exp pts, spectators, etc. that helped us out? Cause I dont belive that I or the LS asked for any of their help.
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#126 Jan 08 2006 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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As someone who was there for the entire fight, I can say Einari's screens are pretty accurate. BR had around 50 people, 45-50 for sure. Hacking? Who knows. It was laggy, and PLDs had crimson legs. Lilkillaz (shown in the screens posted by Einari) was raising and curing BR members, whether it was asked for or not. Finally, I was in a spectator pt consisting of Chrisby (who left pretty early) Clandestine, Airshort, and Vardis. We stood on a large rock slightly less than half-way into the room for the entire fight, with the exception of Airshort. If there was a problem with this then perhaps saying something prior to the 1.5hr mark of your fight would've been a good idea.
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