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Sukesada
(Great Katana) All Races
DMG:69 DLY:399
Double Attack+1%
Attack+7
Lv.66 SAM/NIN

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with the right gears...
# Aug 20 2009 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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got this a couple years ago when i solo the NM with SMN (kited Shii for about an hour with it's super high regen at night). didn't really use it a lot back then. but recently with pole grib, askar body and head, Byakko pants and swift belt, it's really starting to shine. i would go to campain with SAM/WAR and just smack away. i personally like this one better then Soboro and think it's a pretty nice upgrade at that level ^^

edit: almost forgot, even with /NIN or /RNG, the double attack rate is still pretty decent with the above setup if u care to know.

Edited, Aug 20th 2009 10:11pm by Osakachana
Got it
# Feb 07 2007 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
Yeap.

It's pretty accurate, stat-wise, the double attack activated for me twice within 20swings so i think its a 1% chance that you will double attack + something else, i was /nin on my sam so i didnt have double attack, its basically luck without /war, but with it, its more or less adding 1%

Edited, Feb 7th 2007 10:49am by BooooMan
question..
# Jun 27 2006 at 8:28 AM Rating: Default
why is there 2 mobs that drop this 1 weapon?
tryin
# Mar 09 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Default
i'll try to get it
misconception possibly
# Jul 26 2005 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
the every 100 hits u 1 more is true but in theory its 1% more on each swing so for each of those 100 swings its possible that that 1% percent kicked in each time (keyword possible not probible) which would mean that u could possible hit 100 more times for 100 normal swings. once again very inprobable but just saying that the 1% is present every swing which means if your not subbing it u have chance every swing not just adding 1 out of 100 swings.

If your already subbing war then it just increases the chances.
misconception possibly
# Sep 11 2006 at 11:23 PM Rating: Default
BAH YOUR WRONG!
1% added double doesnt exactly mean every 100th hit you will double attack.
i look at it like this.

1/100 = double attack once.
2/200 = double attack twice.
3/300 = double attack three times?

that would be correct yes.

BUT!

i tested...

it was about this.

1/40ish ... i doubled..
i then doubled AGAIN before i hit 100..
then AGAIN on 120ish.. take note. NIN/THF i didnt have double attack.
so i doubled 3/150 about. thats arot more then 1% if u ask me. thats quite alot more. BUT WAIT!! LIKE ZOMG!!! i thought about it. AGI = Double Attack factor. that adds double attack PERIOD.so it adds 1% AND ON TOP OF THAT!!! AGI so infact u have more then 1%. its about 4-5% 'without' double attack..
RE: misconception possibly
# Aug 19 2005 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
swings its possible that that 1% percent kicked in each time (keyword possible not probible)
It is "possible" to double attack 100% of the time. The correct word IS probable.
double attack without /war
# Apr 13 2005 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
yes it does happen, i have gone sam/rng and used tonosama rice balls and scored a double attack, you just have a 1/99 chanse of getting it with this weapon. (which means you "MIGHT" get a double attack with /rng about once an exp pt)
yes
# Feb 14 2005 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
yeah it does give the effect ive seen it alot
DA+1% yes
# Jan 15 2005 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually Double Attack+1% will give you the effect of Double attack even if you do not have the job trait. When i use Tonosama R.Ball as my SAM/THF i will still on occasion attack twice.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2005 at 2:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let's get this all cleared up~
wtf j/k
# Nov 24 2004 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
i was at a exp pt and we saw this... we kept away from it. lol (saw the NM that drops it)

Edited, Wed Nov 24 03:04:20 2004
RE: wtf j/k
# Apr 26 2006 at 5:15 AM Rating: Decent
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And I didnt think anyone besides BSTs XP'd in the sewers. Probably not a bad place to XP, close to town anyway lol.
RE: wtf j/k
# Feb 10 2007 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Who said he was in the sewers? Ancient Goobue also drops this GK. And as a BST you should be able to solo him if you are lucky and not misscharm once. Done it once with my BST but have also died horribly 3 consecutive times when trying to repeat the feat.
RE: wtf j/k
# Feb 10 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Damn double posts

Edited, Feb 10th 2007 1:30pm by Tjonke
Yummy! ITEMS!
# Nov 13 2004 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
Just a Yummy GK. Now Which SAMURAI wouldn't want this? ^^
Sukesada Got It ^^
# Nov 11 2004 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
Beat Shii the other day for this while we down there for Jelly Ring. It is a Lottery Spawn, took 45 min of killing Garms untill Shii pop. The fight was hard, but maybe cuz we had 2 Garms POP and Add. Party was (66 SAM, 62 PLD, 75 PLD, 75 BLM, 64 NIN, 62 BLM, 64 WHM, 66 DRK). Shii has to have at least 15-20K Health, I did Tachi: Gekko for 576 on him and the dent his Health Bar showed was as if I did a regular Hit to an IT Mob. Fight took bout 20 min in total with the Adds. I would recomend keeping the Tunnel near his room cleared so you can pull him back into it and stay clear of Garm adds.

Also i hear other SAM's on my server say they have either killed with no drop, Died trying, or never got him to pop. Dont give up this GK is def worth it I Double Attack almost 3 times more then I used to now.

Edited, Thu Nov 11 16:52:41 2004
Fastest
# Nov 09 2004 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
This Katana has the fastest Delay of all the GAKs. +7 Attack and 1% to double attack just makes me want it more lol. 399 Delay for 69 Dmg is awesome
101
# Nov 08 2004 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
so it means that instead of hitting 100times ull hit 101 ( and unless have good +acc will miss that hitm)
yay!
ancient goobbue?
# Aug 04 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
only shii drops this, not ancient goobbue.
Someone kinda said it but repeating
# Jun 22 2004 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
This item gives double attack +1%.

It does not say "Multiplies by 1.01."

Therefore it gives you a 1% chance of double attacking.

While those of you taking the 0*1.01= are right about the math, you're wrong about the concept and which equasion to use.


0% + 1% = 1%.

An item that ADDS 1% will give you the effect.
Clarification
# Jun 22 2004 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
For clarification, even if you do NOT have WAR subbed, you will gain 1% Double Attack. Or an average of 1 Double Attack out of 100 swings. This is why Tonosama Rice Balls appeal to most Samurai subbing something else, because even without a WAR sub we can use this food to give us what 8% Double Attack? Not sure.
despawn
# May 17 2004 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
if you see this, be sure to attack it ASAP. A few friends of mine were camping it and it spawned. They weren't ready and after 30 seconds it just despawned. So be quick or you gotta wait all over again.
RE: despawn
# Jul 21 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
Nah... i've seen it sittin around for hours... They must have hallucinated
thwack thwack
# Apr 16 2004 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I know someone asked something similar, but I want to be clear. Will using this katana give occasional double attacks, even without a warrior sub-job?
doi!
# Apr 09 2004 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
It's not adding a % of 0, it's adding 1% of 100%.

Therefore, you are double attacking 1% more OFTEN then you did before.
location?
# Mar 22 2004 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
all the other sites i've looked at list this as Rare/ex and it drops of a NM called Shii (a hound) in Bostinious Oblioutt (sp).
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 17 2004 at 7:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) neat little toy i picked up just the other day anyone happen to know what i should sell it for? lol
double attack +1 % .....
# Feb 12 2004 at 3:51 PM Rating: Default
double attack +1 % means that a samuria/bst, with no double or triple attack, will now do what a war or thf does, hit twice every once in awhile.
RE: double attack +1 % .....
# Mar 26 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
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... right.

because 0 times .01 is a number greater than 0.
RE: double attack +1 % .....
# Jun 06 2004 at 10:06 AM Rating: Default
umm... actually 0 times any number is 0, looks like u need to refresh ur math skills =P
RE: double attack +1 % .....
# Jun 06 2004 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
umm... actually 0 times any number is 0, looks like u need to refresh ur math skills =P
RE: double attack +1 % .....
# Apr 23 2004 at 6:31 AM Rating: Decent
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It says addition... so 0/100+1/100= 1/100
If it were multiplication... 0*1.01= 0

The question is, would they be so literal?
RE: double attack +1 % .....
# Mar 26 2004 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
Much like the Triple Dagger, it's +1%. So if you're at 0% (ie: don't have skill) you get it at 1%.
Sukesada
# Feb 11 2004 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
dont know lol.......



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