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Vana'diel Bestiary: Leaping Lizzy  

Family:Lizard
Found in:South Gustaberg
Found at Location:F - 8
Level:10 - 11
Flags:
  • Notorious Monster
  • Not Aggro
  • Linking
  • Detects by Sound
  • Based on Fire
  • Weak against Ice
  • Weak against Wind
Drops:
Stolen Items:
Updated: Fri Dec 28 16:26:12 2007

Leaping Lizzy Picture

PH Method is



Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Monster
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Rock Lizard (this group of 5 is just to the east of the large rock)
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard <~~~~ PH!
Monster
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Monster
Monster
Rock Lizard (this group of 5 is just to the west of the large rock)
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard <~~~~ PH!
Monster
Monster
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Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard
Rock Lizard


Sometimes the first group and last group of Rock Lizards will not exist on your widescan depending on where you stand and how big your widescan range is...
I don't know exactly how many monsters are in between each group. It is just an estimate.

Respawn time for Rock Lizards is 5 minutes earth time so once you kill a PH, set a 5 min timer.
Then either the PH will spawn again or LL =)

I would recommend that when you are camping LL, go in a party with 2 members, since LL have a chance to spawn either at the upper floor or at the lower one (regardless of which PH was killed...) With two members you can each take a PH to make it easier to keep track of the pop window for each PH.

Happy hunting!

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# Jan 25 2006 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
Still can't believe my luck... I'm 0 for 9 on this guy. These boots shall be mine!!
I really start to hate this Lizard
# Jan 25 2006 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
0/26 Mostly with TH1, 5-6 without TH1 and 5-6 with help with TH2.
Guess it just dont like me ; ;

EDIT.........27.01.2006
1/29 =)
Thank you so much for the help Chioto.
We will get yours soon, im sure of it.

Edited, Fri Jan 27 14:15:11 2006
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# Jan 22 2006 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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hm.. ive got 3 lizard groups on wide scan and there are sometimes groups with 6 lizards... im unable to find the placeholder
The boots are mine
# Jan 02 2006 at 11:25 PM Rating: Decent
I camped lizzy for almost 9 hours one day and I saw her once so I decided to do some rank missions. On my way to one of the rank 2 missions I had to go by the camp so I decided to check it out. I saw lizzy there and I hit my voke macro almost breaking my keyboard. When I claimed it and killed it I got the drop on the boots. I am 1/1 when fighting it and I didn't have thf as main or sub.
Correct Camping Details
# Dec 29 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wow... I am very surprised to see after all this time, that the correct info on LL and VE has not been posted. If it has been, it is lost in one of the several pages on this site, and it is time to put the correct info on top.

#1 Neither LL or VE have multiple placeholders. They have 1, and 1 only, and it is very easy to determine which one.

First off, you need to be camping with widescan, to prove what I am about to tell you.

First we will talk about Leaping Lizzy.

As I mentioned above, there is only 1 PH for leaping lizzy. When you get to the spawn area, activate widescan. If no one is killing lizards, you will notice on the list, a top group of 5 lizards, some mobs in between, and a bottom group of 5 lizards. These are the 10 lizards that you have heard that are ph's. But, the ph for leaping lizzy, is always, always, always, the bottom lizard in the top group of 5, if all 5 are there. You may be asking urself, "well, what if all 5 lizards arent in the top group, what if there is only 3, or 1, or I don't even see a top group?" if this is case, then obviously people are killing lizards, it might take u a few rounds to determine lizard #5 in the top group of 5. What I do, if there is only 4 or so, I will hold the bottom lizard, and keep it held until ive seen all lizards in that group pop, eventually u will figure out which is lizard #5. Once you do, you have the ph, with 100% certainty. The pure and simple fact is, if you held this lizard all day, it doesnt matter what other lizards you kill, LL will never pop, unless this 1 lizard is killed. So this clearly gives you an advantage. How? Ok you found lizard #5 in top group, now what? Kill the lizard, wait 5 seconds and then use a 5 minute ability, like sharpshot. This serves as your timer. The 5 second wait serves to compensate for the widescan lag time. The ability timer is ur ph/nm timer. When the timer hits 0, look visually for LL spawn, if you dont see it, pop widescan and look for LL or lizard#5 in top group on widescan. If others are killing other lizards, the ph will be the bottom lizard in top group no matter what. Just make sure you give enough time for your PH to spawn before you run off and claim wrong lizard. Rinse and repeat. Eventually this 1 lizard will pop LL, it is an universal truth. If LL pops on another lizard, you did something wrong, you got off on a wrong lizard. Several of you will appreciate this, and some of you may never quite get it. If you don't trust this info, or want to test it out first, bring a friend and have him round up the other 9 lizards in the 2 groups, except for lizard #5 in top group. Have him kill the other 9 simulataneously and keep a 5 minute timer on them. however, wait to kill urs until about 2 minutes after the others are dead, and keep a different 5 minute timer on the ph. Widescan when all other 9 lizards in the 2 groups of 5 are at 5 minutes, and you will never find Leaping Lizzy. Eventually on the #5 lizard in top group, that you have been killing at a specifically different time than the others, will spawn LL. Test it out. Hope this helps.

Now for Valk. Emperor

Another Widescan trick just like leaping lizzy.

When you get to spawn area, throw up widescan.

If no one is killing flies there will be 4 damselflies on the widescan list in between the group of snippers and the group of leeches. If there isn't 4 some are being killed. When all 4 are up between the snippers and thread leeches, the top fly, is always, always, always, always, the ph. This singular fly will spawn VE eventually. It is 100% truth. Just like LL it might take you a few rounds to find the top fly, if others are being killed. Once you do though, i would hold it and keep its death time seperate from the other 3. once you kill it, wait 5 seconds and do a 5 minute ability like sharpshot. when ability timer is up, look visually for VE, if u dont see him, activate widescan. If VE is up, he will always be bottom fly of the 4 between snippers and leeches, on widescan list. If you follow these guides, you will have a greater advantage of knowing the exact second ph will spawn, and eventually the NM.

Like I said, some of you will instantly benefit from this by camping it correctly, others will not believe and not even try this out, and others will try to camp them this way but will still camp them wrong, grabbing the wrong mob.

Which group you fit into above, is all up to you.
This is the correct info. If you find this information useful, please rate up.

Some tips:
Keep track of the mobs.
Don't kill ph at same time another in the group is being killed.
Pop widescan about 10 seconds before the 5 minute ability timer is up, so you know what is there before and after the 5 minute window hits 0.
Make sure you have the ph, remember widescan lags a good 3 or more seconds after the mob actually pops.
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jun 07 2006 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
AH... the notorious DTangel post.

This thing is very helpful... I tested the theory and it never failed. I'm now 0/2 on this guy.

Thanks DTangel
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Feb 14 2006 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
After all of the testimonials I think we have established that that DTAngel has the correct strategy...finally.

Thank you for the strat it has been very useful, even though LL will not give up anything but her tail.

I was camping her tonight as the lone hunter killing only the PH for an hour waiting for the odds to be right, when a lvl 62 BLM/RNG 1 runs up and kills the other nine lizards. I ask him to stop and he asks why, so I tell him about this strategy. Halfway through my explanation my Sharpshot timer hits 0:00 and I reply "one sec" because sure enough there is the old hag on widescan. Apparently the "one sec" tipped him off because he follows me as I run away. I'll be damned, but i flub up my claim macro and guess who gets the claim, but no drop.

I'm only slightly annoyed by this turn of events so I continue to explain the strategy to my new camping friend. About 5 minutes later all of the lizards including the placeholder are back so I say, "ok check your widescan now...see that top group of five? The bottom one is the PH." We run over to it and I kill it. We spend the next five minutes dispelling rumors we had heard about how to camp Lizzy including that she only pops once every two hours because I had seen her pop within and hour once before.

Well thanks to our conversation I let my timer run out too long so I check widescan and I'll be damned, but there she is again 10 minutes and 1 dead placeholding lizard later. Due to my negligence a level 7 BLM passerby had already claimed her and she died right as I came into view. My new friend allowed me to re-claim Lizzy and sure enough I got another lizard tail. I raised that poor taru mage and logged, because that is all of the luck I'm gonna have in one night.

Sorry for the long post but sometimes wierd stuff happens and you just gotta write it. Oh, and it all re-proves this hunting strat. -.O
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Feb 05 2006 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
I just had to say that this is amazing. I just got my boots using your method. I have been camping off and on for about 3 weeks now, and claimed once. Using your method, I got the first pop and boots dropped. Thank you so much!

EDIT: BTW I was lucky enough that none of the other people camping were killing the first group of 5 when I arrived, so all 5 lizards were up. Plus, instead of using an ability for the 5 minute timer, I had the clock on my laptop up and just used that. I also suspect that the five minutes might start from the time the dead lizard despawns (vanishes). I'm headed to the dunes to try this out on Emperor, I don't expect a drop on first try, since I don't have any TH for this mob, but I'm pretty confident about the claim. Thanks again for sharing the awesome info!

Edited, Sun Feb 5 03:14:09 2006
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 25 2006 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
I just have to say this... if you are the only one hunting LL. and you kill all the lizards except for the 5th one in the top group. Leaping Lizzy would still spawn


I went out to test this theory a little today. I killed the 5th Lizard in the top group at least 5 times. Leaping Lizzy didn't pop until the sixth time. It popped with 2min 27 seconds left on my sharpshot counter


Edited, Wed Feb 1 01:05:23 2006
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 28 2006 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
I'm having an issue understanding where the second list is (I know I'm dumb; please forgive me). When you widescreen, for me there are three groups of lizards. Where the group of five is changes constantly, and I'm half convinced all three are a group of five. The first group always seems to be a bit too far East, but the bottom of the list is consistantly in the middle of the square LL pops. But sometimes they're all just too far west, and the second blob has all its lizards in the square LL spawns. But sometimes it only has 3 lizards, and after five minutes, no one killing, the lizards don't respawn. It stays three. I can't really tell if they're all just moving around and there really are just two groups of five, or if I'm just reading this thing wrong. Do the two groups move around on the widescan list?
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 27 2006 at 7:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is absolutely not true. There is already enough positive feedback from this guide with people getting claims and no mention of LL popping at any other time other than the exact second PH is supposed to. If you ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED otherwise, you are doing something wrong, and I hope you figure it out soon. Best of luck.
^^
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 27 2006 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
It's hard to say one way or another, since it will probably never be tested (and if you do test it by holding the bottom one indefinitely, shame on you!!)

I was the only camper a couple times, killed only the bottom one, and the strategy seemed to work for me. Also, LL never seemed to spawn less than 5 minutes (or close to it) after ToD of bottom lizard when people were killing all the lizards. If you're going to camp LL, I'd highly suggest using this strategy.
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 24 2006 at 8:12 AM Rating: Default
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Lol.. in order to test the "ZOMG ONRY 1 PLACEHOLDER!!!one!" theory, you would have to camp the mob for several pops, spamming widescan every few secs. You would have to kill every lizard in the spawn area, and made sure they formed the same pattern on your widescan when they respawned. You would have to claim her and hold her for a few mins and do a widescan to ensure all the other lizards respawned and reformed the same widescan pattern. If she does indeed pop in place of the same lizard on your widescan pattern every time, congratulations! ^^ You've proven your theory.

Now that you've established that, WHO F-ING CARES which lizard is the placeholder?! 90% of the time people will be killing lizards either to camp Lizzy or to EXP. Knowing the placeholder doesn't help too much except to give you an exact time to Flee, because she spawns pretty randomly in the spawn area. She won't pop in the same location as the placeholder you've killed.

As to the person that posted ZOMG Lizzy popped 5 times in 90 minutes thanks to your info! Hmm.. When she was still dropping a sellable item and people were camping around the clock, and the average lifespan of a lizard in her spawn area was < 3 seconds, why wasn't she popping that frequently then? ^^

Now, if you would like "correct" information about her spawn habits, scroll down and catch my older post, I give some pretty good tips. Disregard all the grammar lecturing though, I was ticked when I made that post. ^^

Edited, Tue Jan 24 07:22:11 2006
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RE: Correct Camping Details
# Feb 04 2006 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I thought long and hard about whether I should even reply to this post.... but... are you serious??

Your guide came out 1 week before mine did, and it has had 1 reply to it, and it was a negative one. No one will vouch for your information that you posted, and for the most part it is utterly ignored.

I dont claim to know everything about this NM, just which 1 lizard will spawn her. And maybe you are on to something with her being more favored to spawn in the morning hours, I would be very interested in adding more strategy to what I know, and several people are replying that already works. But if you don't kill the ph 5 minutes before this magical time that you flee at 7:00 game time, LL won't be there.

Next time, try to be more constructive, and don't take things so personal. Take what you think is good info, add it to what alot of people are saying that is working (my post) and try to come up with a more comprehensive guide, rather than just bashing anything that opposes what you wrote.
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Feb 10 2006 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps I was a bit abrasive, I'm just that kind of player. ^^ Instead I could have simply said, "If, with all the mad lizard tail farmers out there claiming to be Lizzy campers, you manage to keep track of the placeholder, what good does it do you? Use its ToD, you can exhaustively Flee whenever the timer reaches zero and maybe luck out?" I didn't quite understand how knowing the placeholder makes her pop more frequently? However, using the method as I posted it, she was popping every hour consistently. On the dot at the exact same time. And yes, I did receive a surprising lack of responses, one of which was a grammar correction to my grammar rant ^^ But, compare our ratings on the posts. Very very similar. Even though people didn't respond to the post, they found the information helpful. I will apologize for the abrasiveness. Perhaps we could share information and post a collaboration of our results. ^^ Thank you for your thoughts on it.

Edited, Fri Feb 10 14:32:53 2006
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RE: Correct Camping Details
# Feb 11 2006 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you candor! ^^

Anyways, from my experience with LL, there is usually 1 player rounding up the lizards and everyone else just lets that player do his thing and wait on him so they dont miss claim. You would be surprised how many times, lizards are missed, and the ph lizard is skipped over because it popped in an obscure place. The best example of this is the little rift valley directly south of the quadav camp. Ive seen the ph pop behind there and just chill in that area for quite some time, you can not see it from path because it is kinda behind a little cliff. You may or may not know of which area im talking about. In any case, the player rounding up lizards usually takes a while to get all of them, and usually pulls lizards that aren't even in the normal 10 lizard groups, i.e. lizards near the fumaroles, those lizards in the fumaroles kinda mingle with the lizards that are normally considered the 10 placeholders. So sometimes this player gathers up 10 lizards and doensn't even pull the ph. This is especially true on VE, I have seen the ph up for an hour plus, because it popped way way on the west side behind a rock, and all the campers just stayed at the trees and killed the flys repop at the beach and trees. Needless to say, it was a long VE spawn. If the ph is in the group that this player rounds up, it still usually is not a kill every 5 minutes. The point is, I like to be certain, that the ph is dead, that I did not miss a LL spawn, and I know when the spawn could be coming so that I am ready. As far as flee is concerned, if you hit widescan when timer hits 0, the ph or LL will be on that list, you track and get quickly to it. I have beaten many on claims because you are hitting widescan at the perfect time, they are hitting it randomly, and even if its closer to them, by the time their widelist scan shows LL, you are already fleeing in that direction. Its a huge advantage. It allows you to get claims that you normally wouldn't. And yes, you will not get every claim using this method, some will get lucky and it will pop right in front of them. But, if you know when its coming, you have such a huge advantage by being ready, and IMO nothing can substitute for a definite plan of action and knowledge of the time to be ready for that plan of action. Thanks for your imput, I hope to see more info discovered on this lizard.

^^
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 23 2006 at 12:26 AM Rating: Good
First all I want to thank DTangel for spending a time for a complete camping lizzy guild. I was trying this strategy today, but I have encouter a problem....I have no idea which is top group of lizzy and which is bottom. Is the huge stone in the middle to boundary of top and down?

I would be most thankful if someone clue me in on this.
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 27 2006 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
I ran into the same problem.. when you stand near that small hill/mountain in the center of what I thought was the spawn area (east of the little pond, up the hill), I saw 3 different groups of lizards. It seems it is actually the 2nd group of 5 lizards on widescan.. the top group seems to spawn only east of the hill, the 2nd group (LL's group) spawns on both sides, but mostly even with, or west of the hill. The last group of 5 is well west of the hill, near the pond.

I did use this strategy to get my boots, but even as the only LL camper, I found it very hard to determine when LL might pop. It didn't seem to be as precise as a VE spawn is..

After I killed LL a couple times, it seemed that the placeholder spawned almost immediately after LL was dead. Perhaps this is the way it always goes, and I just didn't realize it. For what it's worth, I found the original posters tips very helpful :)

LL 1/6
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 27 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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You brought up a good point that I may not have considered. When I wrote the guide I was using sub ranger level 1, hence my widescan list was very small. When I stood in the same place as you described, my widescan only picked up 2 groups of 5 lizards. It looked something like this.


lizard
lizard
mob
mob
mob
mob
lizard
lizard
lizard
lizard
lizard <----- PH
mob
mob
mob
mob
mob
lizard
lizard
lizard
lizard
lizard

Thats just an estimate. If you were camping with a larger widescan area, you might be right that there are 3 more lizards in that very top group that I only see 2 in, since i was only interested in the 2 groups of 5. Thank you very much for bringing this point up, I will have to make an exact widescan list, study it, and post every mob, so that it will be more clear. One thing I will say though, If you do see 3 groups of 5 on your widescan, im pretty sure you will notice that those other lizards arent anywhere near the pop zone and far east of the quadav camp well before you get to the pop area. I think for the most part people figured this out, but I will update with an exact widescan list soon. Thank you for the catch.

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# Jan 17 2006 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
Omg....i read this today and me and two friends immediatly went to try it out since i really need leaping boots. Anyway using this technique w/o any interferance we got liz to pop 4 times in 1hr 1/2. 0/4 so far but who cares when you can pop it this often now.. shouldnt take long major rate up^^
RE: Correct Camping Details
# Jan 11 2006 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for the right info...

  • This seems to have more back bone and stadegy then what ive heard before from others.

  • GOOD JOB!
    RE: Correct Camping Details
    # Jan 10 2006 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
    was on last night running around killing lizzies. eventaully spawned and someone beat me to it. Just used this method and got him straight off, no boots though >.<

    rate up

    [edit] just got a double pop using this method....still no boots

    Edited, Tue Jan 10 09:30:45 2006
    RE: Correct Camping Details
    # Jan 09 2006 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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    Rate up for you, i can confirm that the instructions on camping VE is correct. Im camping Lizzy atm and i hope that the info hold true too. :)
    RE: Correct Camping Details
    # Jan 06 2006 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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    I can testify that from my experience, this theory is true. Just finished testing it twice. Each LL spawn was 5 minutes after killing the suspected placeholder. I know 2 spawns isn't much to base assumptions on, but I intend to try this out more.

    As far as I'm concerned its fact unless I can prove it otherwise.
    RE: Correct Camping Details
    # Jan 03 2006 at 6:57 AM Rating: Decent
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    Heh, at first I thought I was going to read another nub post about LL, and how they think they know how to pwn her. What I just read was pretty interesting, and I will definatly have to try that out now that you brought that into light. I used to camp her constantly, 13/150ish pre-patch, 0/9 afterwards, and I had all ToD's, area it was at, day, and moonphase all documented, and thus proving to myself that all other's theories were incorrect. Not once did it cross my mind that she had only one PH, since she popped all over the block, including the outer skirts of the neighboring ones. Couple of things I would like to include that I personally experienced were: LL can drop boots at least 3x in consecutive pops, she pops more frequently at night time then she did during the day, I've had pops anywheres from 10mins-6hrs, and it always seemed to me that she wouldn't pop when the majority of the mobs in the F8 block were killed, and there was only one page on my WS. I went as thf/bst, so my ws would equate to that of a lvl 1 rng's. A definate rate up for the post. d(^-^)d

    Edited, Tue Jan 3 06:15:46 2006
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    # Jan 01 2006 at 11:25 PM Rating: Decent
    I just killed Lizzy twice using your strategy, and the Rock Lizard at the bottom of the first group of 5 has definatly been the place holder both times. From what I've experienced, your Lizzy strategy is correct^^
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    # Dec 31 2005 at 10:04 PM Rating: Good
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    DTangel u rock man I got 4 claims on VE today and finally got my pin! Leaping Lizzy is next thanks for the info!
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    # Dec 31 2005 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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    DT angel no offesne but I think that is totally wrong, I have heard this theory by other peeps as well...I personally think that it is all random. You are saying...that all you ahve to do is kill one certain lizard....I find that hard to believe.
    RE: Correct Camping Details
    # Dec 31 2005 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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    I take no offense in your comment. I did not post the information to bash anyone, or be offended if someone thinks this is wrong. It is not my personality or way. But I ask you this, did you try camping it the way I specified? Also, why does the idea of a singular place holder seem weird to you? If you camp several major NMs that have been thought to have multiple placeholders, you will find that they have singular placeholders. Take for example, Mee Deggi the Punisher and Quu Domi the Gallant. At first everyone thought these NMs spawned from any yagudo at the camp site. But as I'm sure you know, this is absolutely false. It is very common knowledge that they spawn from the 1 yagudo that has free movement in the camp area, the 1 yagudo that can walk wherever he wants (in the main moat of water, up the wall onto the center platform, crossing over water divisions to other land masses). But if you look up the official info on these 2 NM, you will see that they still spawn "from various yagudo". It is true the placeholder changes name from time to time, but thast because if you kill an interrogater it can turn into a drummer, if u kill an oracle it can turn into a herald, but its still 1 yag that occupies that placeholder spot, and you can keep a timer on its death and eventually determine the time of spawn of NM. If you were new to this NM, and only read the official info published on various sites, it would look completely random to you. Take for example Megalobugard, (which also has a widescan trick by the way), sites say it has multiple placeholders, but it is common knowledge that there is only 1 giganto bugard that spawns megalo. Many people will confirm VE spawn. So you see the idea of one placeholder holds true in many, many, if not all NM spawns. Plus, after confirmation of 100% test results (on all NMs mentioned above), time after time, after time, after time, I find it hard to believe that any NM in this game has multiple placeholders. Im not saying there isnt an example, because i havent camped every NM in the game, but i am saying the ones I know. Please, dig deeper, and experiment for yourselves.

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    RE: Correct Camping Details
    # Jan 13 2006 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
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    one huge flaw in your strategy tho. the time you waste finding out if the liz your holding is the 5th or the 1st on the list will probably cause you to loose a claim if you dont have the correct one. and after every kill you have to confirm that the next pop is the 5th on the list again? its rediculous to even attempt this. theres no way to keep tabs on the whole pop area, and if someone by chance kills another liz at the same time you decide to dispose of the one your holding, 2 will pop at once and your back at square one. from my experience the problem is never in getting the claim, which is easy enough if you just use a bit of intelligence and A: are high enough lvl to kill everything in 1-2 ranged shots, and B: never engage a mob that isnt the nm. as long as you can RA the rock liz easily and still be visually scanning the area, any of this voodoo magic placeholder mumbo-jumbo is basically useless. good job i guess in figuring out that theres only 1 ph, but its still of no use to campers unless theres no competetion, and how often is that? NEVER.
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    # Jan 13 2006 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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    No, sorry Elamille, you are mistaken and took pieces of my post completely out of context. You are right, holding a lizard to comfirm its #5 after every pop would be rediculous. But obviously this is not the strategy my post entailed. You only have to comfirm lizard #5 in the top group of 5 ONCE when u get to the pop area. At most this will take 1 or 2 pop cycles to decipher which is #5 which is only 5-10 minutes, not really that much time. Once you find this ph, if you follow the guide above and use the job ability timer about 5 seconds after its death, when the timer runs out and you pop WS, the ph will be the bottom lizard on the list in the top group no matter what even if someone is killing the other lizards. It doesn't matter if someone kills another lizard at the same time, the ph will be the lowest one in that group, AS LONG AS you found lizard #5 that very first time. You track it and kill it, its very fast, efficient and correct. There is no holding lizards and waiting for all 5 to pop every time, that would be impossible since the area is usually camped. But only the 1 time do you need to do this when you get there, and with deductive reasoning, even with people wildly killing all lizards, this at most takes an extra 10 minutes, period, one time only. After that, what you fail to realize, is that camping the ph is a constant kill every 5 minutes until LL pops. There is obviously advantage in knowing the exact second leaping lizzy could pop, i mean you could flee, you could be more alert visually, not stuck in tells or linkshell chat, and also not stuck in a widescan that hasnt been updated with the NM on the list. Also your method of just waiting until NM pops and not killing anything else would take alot more time that killing the ph every 5 minutes. What if a beastmaster had the ph, or what if it was only being killed every 10 minutes, or if somone higher level was being a jerk and holding it red for hours, obviously it would be a long LL pop. The short of all of this is, when you use the original strategy, you are killing the PH with 100% certainty every 5 minutes, it doesnt matter what other lizards are being killed, it doesnt matter how many campers there are, it pops LL much faster than just waiting, and you know exactly the second it could pop, giving you a clear advantage over all other campers camping it. This guide works, just look at the posts above yours.

    ^^
    Some tips
    # Dec 22 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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    I have camped this NM to exhaustion. After finally getting the drop, I'll share some things I've learned about her. I've gotten quite good at camping her, but that's not something to brag about. Nobody should HAVE to be 'good' at camping this mob, it's a sign of her craptastic drop rate if you are. >< Please don't rate me down or post unintelligent responses until you've had the chance to test any of this. ^^

    1) She usually won't pop from 23:00-4:00 Vanadiel. (In 80 something camps I've only seen her pop at night a few times.

    2) She likes to pop around 7am Vanadiel. I would Flee at 6:57 and snag her quite often.

    3) Her chance of popping seems to greatly increase NOT by killing all the Lizards in the zone in a frenzy, but by letting the placeholder stay ALIVE a certain amount of time. When I was the only camper, I was getting her to pop once every hour (Almost right on the dot at 7am Vanadiel ^^)

    4) If the placeholder has been alive for an hour and you train them all and kill them all at about 4:30am Vanadiel, she stands a VERY good chance of popping @ 7am Vanadiel.

    5) Methods and macros. Instant job abilities and fast claiming methods are your friends! Rng main/sub is of great help but not necessary. If you ARE using widescan though, change your claiming macros from <t> to <scan>. This way you won't have to actually tab to target the mob.
    IE /ja "Provoke" <scan> for War/Rng or Rng/War
    Shadowbind <scan> is also a godsend.
    Flee isn't necessary unless you are unlucky enough to be a bajillion miles away from her when she pops. If you are Thf/Rng or Rng/Thf too low for Shadowbind, your fastest claiming technique is to Flee up to her and Steal. This is faster than most ranged attacks, as it is a close range instant ability. Darts are slightly slower for claiming but have greater distance. If you are a WHM, go with Flash. /ma "Flash" <scan> w/ Rng sub.

    When there are other campers it's hard to convince them to NOT kill lizards. What I often ask them is, "Are you farming lizard tails, or camping Lizzy?" I'm not putting down people that farm lizard tails. SGusta is a wonderful place to farm them and they net a whopping 1k per stack on my server with a decent drop rate. ^^ But Lizzy prefers if her cousins live a fulfilling 1hour+ lifespan, and will come to visit her relatives more often if they stay alive longer (kinda makes sense in that light, doesn't it?).

    Try it before you rate me down or post OMGWTFBBQ LIZZY TAILS CAMPING 1337 RE-ELECT BUSH! crap please.

    Also when responding, here are some grammar tips:
    "pls" "plz" "u" and "alot" are not words. If you mean "a lot", please say "a lot".
    Then and Than:
    Then deals with chronology of a statement, or follows an IF clause. "We went to Bastok and THEN we camped Lizzy." "IF we go camp Lizzy and some tails drop, THEN we can go to Bastok and sell them."
    Than is a comparison. "My Lizzy camping skills are greater THAN yours."
    Its/It's:
    It's is a contraction of "it is". "IT'S nice to see you here camping Lizzy again."
    Its is a possessive reference to the subject of the sentence. "The Lizzy drop was difficult to obtain due to ITS poor drop rate."

    Nobody is expected to have perfect grammar but for the love of all that is <|Holy|>, please make a half-assed effort people! Typos happen, but for those of you that aren't planning on living on fast-food wages the rest of your lives, don't make poor grammar a habit.

    *Some remarks edited out for general dumb-assery*

    Edited, Mar 26th 2007 5:33pm by Chocotaku
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    RE: Some tips
    # Dec 23 2005 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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    I can confirm that he does indeed spawn between 23:00 and 4:00. I watched him spawn in front of me at 1:13.
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    RE: Some tips
    # Jan 22 2006 at 1:19 AM Rating: Default
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    *edited for general dumb-assery*

    Edited, Mar 26th 2007 5:46pm by Chocotaku
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    RE: Some tips
    # May 06 2006 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
    Wow dude..

    Someone makes a correction on info you posted, and you dismiss it as a freak occurence simply because it doesnt pop at that time for you?

    Even after you tell us your method of camping is to keep all lizzys alive, until around 7:00, then kill them?

    Are you being serious here? Or just trying to be a know it all who really knows nothing...?

    I read your post, and theory, ok, cool, I disagree, but wasnt even going to post that. What got me is you shurugging off someones correction, like its not true. Now your not trying to help people, your trying to help your Alla ego.

    FYI, I have seen LL pop 3 times in the course of 25 minutes, Then not pop for 3 hours. This was with an entire linkshell camping every lizzy spawn point there is, because we were trying to **** off RMT.

    Your post was cool, until you decided to shrug off info that corrects it. Now it just fails, completely.

    Oh yea, dont come back at me with that rating **** like you did the poster above. Your rating means absolutely **** to me.
    RE: Some tips
    # Dec 23 2005 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
    You made clear, lucid arguments to support your opinion... I think it's freaking hilarious how you misspell 'victim' right there at the end. "You have all the time in the world to prepare your response." ^^
    RE: Some tips
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    *edited for general dumb-assery*

    Edited, Mar 26th 2007 5:34pm by Chocotaku
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    you whore
    # Dec 22 2005 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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    I was levling by the fumaroles and on my way to Bastok I ran into this *****. Being a lvl 30 WAR for a while screwed me up, since I thought I was still fighting with my WAR XD Long story short, I died, using my PLD 2 hour. I was going to Disengage before I hit it after I realized that I would die, but I hit it, slipped on my keyboard and called for help v_v....

    The 4-6 THFs hunting the thing weren't to pleased.....

    Anyways, after being bored 2 weeks later, I swtiched to my WAR and decided to try to camp her....Onyl competition was a level 50+ THF
    Joy.....we talked and started killing Rock Lizards, and soon enough I saw Lizzy on Wide Scan (I had BST subbed) Ran to her, and hit my Voke macro like it was going out of style. Just as the THF flee-ed and almost got to her, My voke went through. {/cheer}! I didn't ge the drop, but the revenge was enough to hold me....We hunted for another hours or so and she popped again, and the THF beat me XD.
    I'm 0/1 but not for long
    What are the odds?
    # Dec 18 2005 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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    Just thought I would share a quick little story.

    I had been camping LL off and on since the update so I could sell my Winged Boots but with no success (0/8). Friday night after leveling NIN in Korroloka Tunnel I decided to switch to THF/RNG and log out at LL and hope I could catch her in the morning. Now keep in mind it's 4am. I start to get close to the spawn point so I pop a widescan... Holy Crap! Leaping Lizzy! I tried to flee but I still had 30 seconds left on recast. I run at her thinking for sure she would be claimed. I walk closer and see 2 low level people on /anon leveling up on a Rock Lizard and right next to them *unclaimed* sits Leaping Lizzy. I spam my Steal macro with such voracity I nearly destroy my keyboard. With the name red I start to pray I get the drop. As if god came down from the very heavens and handed the boots to me Himself I get the drop. At this point I am stunned and I turned to the 2 people leveling. I asked them why they didn't kill it and they said they didn't even see it. Adrenaline rushing I returned to Bastok donning my oh-so-spiffy Bounding Boots. I gues my point is, good things can happen at strange times, so never give up hope. Now on to the Valkurm Emperor. Happy camping.
    Ugh No more of this
    # Dec 13 2005 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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    I camped the lizzy for 14+ hours straight, 12 pm till 2 am and had a few friends help out with getting him
    we got him 3 times with no drop and im a thf with TH2 >.<
    and i remember it came down to a race between me and this other thf for the LL, i had war subbed for provoke, even though rng is a better sub cuz of Wide Scan, so we were racing to the LL and i came into range where provoke would work and i fumbled on the keyboard to get my macro >.<
    the other thf, who subbed rng, used steal to get the LL >.< AND he got the boots -_-
    Best way to get claim
    # Dec 11 2005 at 9:34 PM Rating: Decent
    i havent read any of the other posts on this one except for the top one. In my opinion, best way to get this claim is to get a party of ls members that dont have anything to do, and get them to help you. Before you ask them, make sure they say its all right for u to get drop.
    What's up with this NM?
    # Dec 11 2005 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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    Lizzy's spawn time is really, really sporadic from what I've seen just in the past night camping it.

    A few times, it would spawn in about an hour or so after the last kill, once it spawned in less than that, and later on it didn't spawn for 5 hours. I'm not sure if it spawned after that, as I gave up and logged around then, as I was simply sick of killing rock lizards over and over only to not have the thing pop.. ever.

    Edited, Sun Dec 11 17:43:07 2005
    Hours on end?
    # Dec 07 2005 at 3:22 AM Rating: Decent
    Yeah, its tough being a lvl 30thf and having no Empress Hairpin or Leaping/Bounding Boots. I just camped her today, I was the only one on the feild. Do you know how many cigarettes I smoked and how dizzy I got running circles in the area for 7hrs straight. I've done this off and on for 2 weeks now but today was the longest. I've only claimed one...thats right "1". You all talk about 0/5, 0/8, 0/60034577345976....try seeing time after time....one killed right infront of your eyes....then they just rub it in...because you were out there for such a long time...and some prick walks up with his high lvl self and steals it away. Oh and by the way...that one i killed....lol didnt drop...talk about ur stomach smashing against your balls...(picking up comp and throwing out the window). To really help us guys, dont give stats on how many you killed or seen just tell us how to improve our chance of killing this thing. TY
    RE: Hours on end?
    # Jan 15 2006 at 8:08 AM Rating: Default
    mmm... you are level 30 so you can unlock rng for sub you have flee um why can i beat you as a 75blm/rng you tell me.... so quit crying get rng unlocked and get back at the people beating you to the claim....



    P.S. 1/9
    Okay
    # Dec 01 2005 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
    I was pondering on just killing it if anyone is interested in starting a team on it! I have only killed lizzy about 12 times lol and tip top or whatever. Those crazy NMs in windy bomb king and the weird looking elvs whatevers. REALLY interested in trying to catch this one. Im on siren server if anyone is interested.
    Competition
    # Nov 26 2005 at 4:24 AM Rating: Decent
    There's always HEAVY competition on this one. I think that this is the first NM I've ever heard of when I first started playing. Being a RDM it was very hard for me to compete using dia against all the THFs and RNGs. I got really close a few times before actually getting Lizzy. Luckily for me, I'm 1/1. I think that I would only camp this one out again with a team.
    No subject, lol
    # Nov 25 2005 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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    It's been a while since I last put a post up (maybe about 5 months) but there are some things to know since I use to camp lizzy non stop on the Caitsith server a long time ago. The spawn time is more like 5 minutes to 3 hours. For example, if you were scanning for lizzy and it didn't show up for about 2 1/2 hours (assuming you didn't miss any previous spawns) it is highly likely to "double pop". This means that after a long wait for lizzy and it dies, it will pop soon, maybe 30 minute wait max. Same goes for the opposite...if you kill lizzy and then kill lizzy again let's say in an hour, you will probably have to wait a good amount of time. I read a post about night spawns...and yes I have seen it spawn at night.
    Funny Story
    # Nov 24 2005 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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    Back when I started out, I wanted to be a Rdm and studied the Bible (snort, snicker...Brady guide) about stuff Rdm could wear etc., and actually knew what the term "NM" meant, but nothing more. Then somebody tells me about Thief and this "TH" thing, and that I need to level thief. By this time in my career, I was running down to Dangruf to get sulfur (my money maker) and Im by the rock as you first come down the road...level 17 thf/no sub at the time. This lizzard pops literally in my face, and I hit an "Attack" macro almost without thinking. I then realize it says "Leaping Lizzie" -- and I had no idea what in hell she was or what she dropped!!! All of a sudden, some guy offers me 10k if I will invite him into the fight, and I knew something was up. It was the toughest fight in my entire time in V'd, mostly because I had no idea what level LL was or what the drop was. I was real lucky that I did not get petrified, and finally won with a Fast Blade WS and got a drop of leaping boots. Looked at the stats and nearly crapped.

    Of course, I then camped LL for a bit every time I went to Dangruf, got claims maybe another 8 times, but never another drop.

    Talk about beginner's luck!
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    never @ Night??
    # Nov 24 2005 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
    i don't know if anyone else has said this or noticed this but from my experiences i have never seen LL pop @ night... can anyone confirm this?? please help me out ^^ i haven't camped this thing in months so i could easily be wrong


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    EDIT: just saw it pop at night missed the claim cause i didn't think it did >.> i stand corrected

    Edited, Sun Jan 15 07:14:33 2006
    0/35
    # Nov 20 2005 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
    im getting pretty pissed off with this thing im 0/35 on him with th1 ive been there nearly 3 weeks now camping this thing my advice is... dont waste your time i would just camp some nm's or farm alot till u get 1.5mil (current price on bahamut) and buy the leaping boots (if theyre on sale) it might actually save u a few weeks of getting pissed off... i on the other hand am gonna see this out with him and i will stay here as long as it takes me to get them....
    RE: 0/35
    # Nov 20 2005 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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    whats ur username... ive been camping this guy for 1 week maybe ive seen u lol, im 0/12
    RE: whats your username
    # Nov 22 2005 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
    my username is Headhunter and im on Bahamut and ive given up camping him for a while now ill go back wen i decide to lvl nin again lol
    WOOOOOT
    # Nov 17 2005 at 6:20 PM Rating: Default
    GOT DROP TODAY! SMACKED THAT HOE DOWN GOOD! 1/3 WITH TH2
    ack...
    # Nov 16 2005 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
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    I really hate this idiot.... i am 0/9 now on this guy, everytime i camp it, i kill all the placeholders and see the lizzy on my widescan i see a G*Y A** B**CH M*THER F*CKER steal it.... time to camp it again...

    Edited, Thu Nov 17 12:11:35 2005
    YAY
    # Nov 15 2005 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
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    YAY, 1/8 on this little girly...
    I was a SAM16/WAR8 camping since friday and finally got it!
    So finally I can take SAM and THF higher without me feeling gimped. (I'm one of the people that has to have the best -.-;;)
    spawn points ect.
    # Nov 10 2005 at 10:02 PM Rating: Decent
    Leaping Lizzy is probably the easiest NM to claim [if you know what you're doing.] It has about a hundred spawn points spread out in the area of F-8. Some are down around the hot springs, some by the quad's campfire, on the middle level elevation of the land and basically everywhere. I found that you are more likely to get drop if you hunt with a lvl 20 or 30 job, i got 2 drops when i was lvl 34 (before bounding boots update) making me 2/2 in the lvl 30's. I recently have gone back to camp him to obtain bounding boots for my ninja and have been camping with my lvl 59 warrior, i am currently 0/5 on bounding boots. Be sure to sub rng and have a method of quickly claiming it when you are within range. Flee is not needed to get closer to it because if its on the other side of the map and someones over there, you're not getting it, tough luck. Its spawn time is about 1hour-3hours after last kill, but i have seen it spawn 5 minutes after last kill (freakin NMs.) Oh yea and when i got the drops, i was not subbing rng nor had treasure hunter of any form and actually wasnt even camping it (Drive-bys ^^). Its soloable by anyone smart that is lvl 16+, if you're dumb, start camping around lvl 25, 50 maybe :P. Good Luck ^^
    Respawn time?
    # Nov 10 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Default
    Whats the respawn time on Lizzy? I know the time of death.
    yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss
    # Nov 09 2005 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
    finally i ve got my bounding boots!!!!!!! 1/28!!!!!!!never been so happy in game!!!good luck to all campers!!!XD
    lmao...
    # Nov 07 2005 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
    Well, i just wanted to say sorry to those of you who are continuously camping this girl. I almost feel bad now. I was helping a friend get his in pty, and what do you know? she dropped. So, im 2/2 on her now. I wonder when my luck will run out...


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